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I remember reading that 2ML there - who got BL storyline - didn't end up well (I think he died in the end), so let's hope they won't go the same route...

I wouldn't say "of course", see: Bite Me.

I actually like her novels (I wish they were in paper format and not MEB as both PDF and EPUB are not working well with their reader 😒).
The only issues I see with them are: MC (Bun) or ML (police officer from Euthanasia/Spare Me Your Mercy) simply has to be cold/unfeeling and their love interest is kind of obsessed with them (the doc was basically crazy about him since he saw the police officer). The other issue is with 2nd couple in Manner of Death: they simply don't have enough "screen time" for me (here the thug is also a bit cold but then gets super possessive, including violence) and I would love to see their life in Bangkok (Sarawat is studying medicine, so it should still be on theme).

I was convinced it's going to end this way 🤯

Should I suffer and watch it till end or just leave it at EP09? 🤔
I am so disappointed in OffGun - after Not Me I hoped for some quality series for them. Now there is Trainee comming and it seems to be more or less the same as Cooking Crush 😒

I agree - it was totally different.
MPWM gave like Stockholm Syndrome vibes but this was quite cute.
The work culture is 🤯 How can people exist (outside the work)? No wonder people don't have families...

Do you know the title of that CH+TH BL?

Naga magic is green. When Tharn was falling it was Naga magic that saved him. Then Tharn disappeared in golden light - same as Phaya - isn't that colour of Garuda magic? So I think it was big bro Garuda, who transferred them both into the cave as Phaya apparently lost his magic (interesting that Tharn's soul would still hold magic, his reincarnation also had some magic of visions/sight but Phaya had nothing).

IDF 😱 - the 1st time I saw it I was like: what are they doing in Thailand?! Running training program o.O? Then I was able to read what it actually means and uff! Then again I would feel "weird" every time I saw it till the end of the series...

I think that big snake Naga could get together next season with... big bro Garuda 🤭 Wouldn't that be a twist - like their love was what actually started Naga/Garuda war? So once he saw that there were Tharn and Phaya who - even trough there were obstacles in their way - decided to be together he got super jealous and hence S1.

I think I remember that at one point FL1 was crying/being sad and ML1 was trying to cheer her up and told her something like she is too nice and doesn't want to hurt people that is why she is crying about fate of ML2 and FL2.
So what I meant is that she is portrayed as such a virtue and kind person but in truth she is no angel - as you said she wants to dump her bad fate to others. They don't show the depth of her hatred/rage/hurt for FL2 and ML2 that any person in her situation would feel - it's to subdued for me (and because of that I thought of her being a bit fake). The only time she actually showed it was right before her death and right after rebirth.

Thank you for your kind words 😀
Do you happen to know if there is English translation of the novel? And if so do you have link to it?

1. FL1 character is not this fake Mary Sue - she is legitimately angry at FL2 and ML2 and wants the revenge (in the series she is being portrayed as not really wanting to harm anybody but ups).
ML1 is even bigger simp than in the series.
2. FL2 is simply deranged from the get go.
3. Highschool friends got convinced by FL2 with just situation with ML3.
4. People were mentioning how FL1 was looking like while meeting parents but I think that the bigger difference was with highschool friends during the wedding - they were dressed as "party animals" (although I would never go to club in sweats - even designer ones) and looked super trashy 🤭
5. Mr. Lee - I doubt chairman even knew of his existence, he was in different department, had totally different personality and storyline.
6. Mrs. Yang - younger child (1 year old). The order of events was different - first was the husband's affair (with vanity being the "culprit" instead of glas table) and then the cancer (no intervention from Mr. Yu or Mr. Lee). There was no issue with any evidence for the divorce, nor was police in their apartment. Her romantic storyline starts around chapter 48-49, ten 61. Her divorce storyline actually picks up on chapter 49 (see No. 22).
7. Eunho (ML3) is not a chef - he owns café. He never took FL1 on a date (except 1 meeting after reunion). His romantic storyline starts a bit in chapter 48, we get a bit more in chapter 57 (see No. 29) and then 63 (see No. 32).
8. Mother-in-law was as bad but her ending was different - she got a stroke after semi-publicly learning about her son's infertility. FL2 was there with her at the time and just left her (father-in-law was out fishing so he found his wife next day). FL2 actually injected air to her body to kill her because she was afraid that MIL might get better and tell others about what happened.
9. ML2 kind of killed himself. He wanted to kill FL2 (he was in debt and bought insurance on FL2 - he didn't have any), so he rigged breaks in car but due to info about his mother's death he forgot about it and took the car to get to the hospital and crashed (there was lighter in the floor of the car, so he burned to death).
10. Father-in-law was also quite mean and considered his son's wife to be servant to the son and him (when his wife was in hospital).
11. FL2 was arrested at her husband's and MILs funeral but she escaped. She bamboozled again Mr. Kim and decided to use his car for getaway but then she saw FL1 and ML1. She decided to kill FL1 but ML1 saved her and landed in hospital instead. FL2 got life in prison after that.
12. ML1 told FL1 quite early that FL3 is his sister but there was no BTS song that made them figure out that they both travelled in time. Instead while ML1 was in hospital (see point 11), FL1 went to his apartment and found calendar with marked her wedding date + death (he actually found her dead and held funeral for her) and a letter where he explains their history from his POV (including that he was about to resign because he had his own security company and how he drowned himself).
13. The meeting between FL1 and ML1 in Uni was while she was taking care of kitten. She wanted to buy some food for it, so asked ML1 to stay and look after kitten for a while. He didn't have time but he got some food, so he gave it to her. FL1 never looked up, so she didn't know how he looked like.
14. For big part of the show it looked like it was a commercial for Autentique. Here the earrings were exactly the same for FL1 and FL2 - it just seemed like they suited FL2 more before FL1 transformation. No necklace storyline.
15. No company scavenger hunt (or anything of that sort).
16. The big idea was not FL1 but Mrs. Yang's. She was also not even a bit backstabbing.
17. The idea that tanked Mr. Kim was FL3's + there was no airplane scandal for Mr. Kim's backer (nor was he face of the product).
18. No cooking class from FL2 + no meeting of MIL before restaurant (and it wasn't Eunho's + no ML1 in the vicinity).
19. ML1 didn't help with ML2 proposal to FL1. The whole proposal looked totally different in the webtoon (not clear if it was the same before rebirth).
20. FL1 decided to make ML2 cheat on FL2, so that she gets FL1 fate instead Mrs. Yang, so she asked girl to pretend flirt with ML2 via texts/SMS. FL2 finds the texts and confronts "affair partner", so now "AF" became co-conspirator with FL2 and FL2 tells her almost everything she does. "AF" suggests for FL2 and ML2 to get tested to find the reason for them not having babies and since ML2 is treating FL2 like a trash he refused to go get results. FL2 uses the results to humiliate MIL and the "accidentally" leaves them in the car, so that FIL finds them.
21. No ex-fiancée storyline.
22. Mr. Yang's husband wants to squeeze out money from her, so he wants to get/keep parental rights. He decided to kidnap his own daughter with help of his AF (she doesn't want the child - just the money) but AF gets caught immediately by FL1 and FL3 (she is quite vicious to AF), husband gets his comeuppance from his FIL. They all land at police station where they are being told it's just a family squabble and to let it go 🙄 ML1 and Mr. Lee appear with a lawyer - Mr. Lee (they are brothers). They add some additional evidence and finally kidnaping sticks.
23. Mrs. Yang is apparently older than Mr. Lee by 6 years. They never had any storage talks nor past where he was kind of rude to her.
24. Mrs. Yang - due to her great work - gets constant promotions. FL1 turned down promotion because she felt like she hasn't earned it, so that made grandfather/chairman instantly impressed (it was their 1st interaction).
25. FL2 called from the prison to inform FL1's mother that FL1 is marrying rich (to mess with her, of course).
26. FL1 mother visits her at work. ML1 figures out that she basically wants to repeat history (she stole her husband's and FL1's money when she left to finance her BF's business) and offers to pay her off to leave FL1 life. However the mother accidentally called FL1, so she heard the whole conversation. FL1 confronts her mother and when things escalated to violence step-mother of ML1 shows up and "handles" FL1's mother. Only after that we learn that FL3 is step-sister of ML1.
27. FL1 visits FL2 in prison and we get more details about their parents affair + FL1 cuts ties with FL2.
28. ML1 proposes to FL1 in Busan, on her B-day after giving her properties (as incentive to say yes? 🤔).
29. Eunho decided to go to Switzerland to truly get over FL1. FL3 meets his at the airport before he leaves and confesses. Eunho said that he will make dessert just for her and to wait for him (but if she finds someone better before, to go be with that guy). He comes back on FL1 wedding day with suitcase full of presents for FL3.
30. FL1 and ML1 get married in chapter 58 (she is already pregnant with twins).
31. From chapter 59 we have "spin-off": FL1 pregnancy, delivery and rising the twins.
32. FL3 has to travel to Indonesia,so she wants to tie the knot with Eunho and fast, so she proposed to him at his café and thought he rejected her. FL3 tries again: this time she arranged for them to travel and "accidentally" spend the night thereshe wants to pop the question but Eunho kisses her and then helicopter appears with ML1 + grandfather started to call her 🤦‍♀️ and they decided to escape. So it of course turned out to be an elaborate proposal by Eunho with help of ML1, FL1. Grandfather was against FL3 marriage but not because of Eunho but just in general.
33. FL1 eventually leave the company to start something new.
34. Chapter 67 is from the cat's POV (he also went through rebirth).

I decided to read webtoon and there are significant differences. Spoilers for the webtoon ⬇️

I don't think they do it like that in Thai Rom-Coms (not sure about Larkoms, as I only saw Rivarly due to its side BL couple).
JP does wild things in their dramas - you never know if you get super conservative (like they act as if hand holding = graphic porn) or straight up graphic porn 🤭

You mean if she ends up with Thada? If yes, then yes 😀

Here is the talk, so you can judge on your own.
Side note: the series starts with Sandee (♀️) waking up naked in bed with Thada (♂️) after their friends group went drinking the night before. Pete comes a bit later and caches them both - that is why he knows.
EP04, ~32-34min:
Sandee: Shut the f* up. Did you just lose your virginity like I did?
Kao: Did I miss something?
(they go to another place)
Kao: Pete. San. Why didn't you tell me what's going on? Do you still think of me as your friend?
Pete: How do you expect her to talk about it? See? You don't even know how.
Kao: But, at least, you should let me know. Not until it gets out of hand like this.
Sandee: I have no idea. I have no idea at all how it gets to this point. All I know... is that my head is about to explode.
Kao: How about this? If you feel uncomfortable, why don't you just fade yourself out?
Pete: She shouldn't do that. Thada will ask even more where she goes.
Kao: Just tell him she's sick or something.
Pete: He won't buy it.
Kao: Do you want San and Thada to play mind games like this?
Pete: Then, what do you suggest?
Sandee: Damn it. I'm the one who got screwed. Why do we have to find a way out for him?
(Sandee leaves)
Kao: She just lost her virginity, what's the big deal?
Pete: Cause she's a woman.
Kao: When I lost mine, I didn't regret.
Pete: That is you.

Ships sell, so they won't. Plus I think that perhaps actors get comfortable with their counterpart and no need for intimacy workshops? In other words: 💰

EP04: was it picture of the doctor? (Have I mentioned that I have problem to distinguish the guys? 😉 and the web on the glass is not helping)
Usually in Thai dramas people have their own pictures in their bedrooms, so does the apartment belong to doc?
Evil Jellyfish is definitely not wearing Yai's shirt. The sleeves are to narrow to fit Yai's "guns".
Depending on their schedule they might have had time to do quick wash of the ketchup [area] and dry it with hairdryer, just saying...
How was he having trouble sitting on chair or sofa but he jumped on that bike without issue (he lifted his leg quite high)?

The whole forensic check of the suspected crime scene: no protective gear in sigh! Is it so hard to at least wear gloves? This reminded me of the simulation in EP01 - Chat decided to take off his helmet in the middle of it (he should get punished/reprimand for that IMO) and I remember the conversation about diffusing one of the bombs going somewhere along the lines: let's disconnect yellow one (it sounded like they were randomly choosing).

Now to the bathroom scene. It was supposed to be sexy and it was... mostly. Another shot of blurred buts and genitalia was not so distracting as the freaking waste of water (I am mainly talking about the sink) 😒

How come I don't like the new girl from the moment she appeared (I liked Yai's GF, so it's not like girl in BL = instant hate for me)? 🤯 The way she was behaving and talking about the case was so unprofessional - like she was guessing on the spot. And what rumors? 🤔

No fingerprints on the weapon and he used it barehanded? Perhaps he genetically doesn't have them or burnt them out.

And they simply had to do diagnose of the culprit without any data by outsider 🤦‍♀️

Why is nobody questioning at least Tharn's health when he has visions? He looks like he has migraine. And Yai always yells: "what did you see?" They all just ignore it...

I agree, I just don't think that her look underwent such a drastic change - she is still cute, shorter hair look good. It's not like nobody would recognise her (even the boy from highschool was able to tell).
This however just solidifies the stereotype that you need to buy expensive clothes, wear makeup, no glasses!, have trendy haircut or else your life would be bad. She was already doing progress looking like she was originally (and gaining confidence!) but to "face slap" & succeeded in life makeover is mandatory?
I just think it creates such unrealistic standard - one can look beautiful on the outside but be insecure mess on the inside (like many models). And waring different cloths won't make ones issues/constraints magically disappear. Changes in character and mindset don't happen overnight if they are to last (I am excluding behaviour altering medical conditions from that, of course) - it takes time and a lot of effort.

Side note: I think that her current style is not comfortable. Bofre she was supposedly only wearing flats (and pants) but now high heels? How is she able to walk without any issues?! And in new ones as well. Let's add to that skirt, that is basically constraining her legs, so that she can only take tiny steps (are stairs even possible without hiking it up?). Blouse is fine and if she'd paired it with some nice slacks and flat shoes she could have still looked professional, sexy and be able to move (you never know when you have to jump over some copy papier or run from not-yet-ex-BF/BFF 😉).

My point, exactly. The era of such stories is long gone, I think - or at least it's something that new actors can do but not "veterans" such as them. They should do more demanding roles (hopefully Trainee is not going to be ripoff of Middleman's Love).

Off comes off as goofy in Cooking Crush and as I wrote - I am just not a fan and don't think he is on the same level as Gun.

Gun can have chemistry with anyone. If I remember correctly he was shipped with guy playing his brother in Midnight Museum (not BL).
Additionally he has such a baby face that it's still believable to be uni student.
I think Gun could do it with literally anybody else and people would still go wild: let's not forget famous ghost ship of TodBlack (in novel GramBlack but novel was, to put it mildly, trash) - and there was SeanWhite in the same series!
They could pair Gun (1,68m) with cute, ethereal Earth (1,75m) and he could play macho (Black-like character) to contrast them (hight difference could be cute: like Perth and Saint in Love by Chance) - I would dig it. He is so petty and cute that most of the talented giants in GMM would pair great with him regardless of the settings. He could play a badass with them as well 😈 - he is so fit, that he could probably do some special forces series a'la The Sign. He himself is limitless... except for Off as IMO he is setting Gun's BL limit 😔 (and GMM as well).

EP03: Yai should really be scared of his GF 🤭 He is such a comic relief 😂
Yes, wearing couple's outfit, standing under umbrella, taking selfies and kissing are all signs of being just good friends - delulu is strong in this one 🤣 (at least evil, evil jellyfish "attacked" while ≈sober).
I am wondering how the necklace did not fall out of the pocket while he dived (in the river?). Is that like "daughter of Naga" superpower? 🤔