Totally agree Infact most of the thai shows … it pisses me off cause then have to drop it and you just feel…
Chinese and korean too....but they have more content for us to chose from.
I highly recommend the love proposal.
This could be better
1. No cheating 2. Character consistency with growth 3. Challenging interactions for Character growth and development 4. The villians were drawn out 5. FL family had no progression/development 6. Cheapen plot line to dramatized
I didn't expect much from this plot/drama. I enjoyed the beginning. I felt the lead can help each other grow with the support and understanding they gave each other.
Instead it's over the top dramatization and character assassination.
They should've taken notes from sand princess and 49 days. They execute it better for a simple plot line. Easy watch, romance with some conflicts/dynamics
Yeah! Totally agree! In 'Drag' Luke was very weak, in the beginning of Donovan he was much better, but still,…
I feel yes...workshop...more comfortable with lang....a good partner with Namtarn In interviews Namtarn amp him up and compliment him a lot. They said they are very comfortable together and did some adlib
Ep 13 & 14 show case Luke's great acting. We know Pam is a solid actor, but I feel Luke was kind of weak in the…
Agree....towards the end there is some more challenging scenes and to have a great partner to play off of like Namtarn.
I also don't think Josh has a lot of challenging roles either....but he improved in ROAD TO REGRET (good old days). He emoted well, again good partner with Namtarn and kay
Nothing can excuse what Dino did ! First he cheated on her by making out with Jess and was willing to have sex…
Him kissing Jessica as "work" make his partner uncomfortable...... him going to the party and her room makes his partner uncomfortable
FL supported ML no matter what and made excuses for him making out with her in the car
Damn gmmtv.....why...? Why?....that was a stupid storyline. They should have him not kiss her....ep 11 pish her off ran off.....Da can appear...whatever
Leave the cheating out of it
I'm just skimming and giving view because i support the actors..
I read the defense on Dino character and the bashing on Pam. I feel he can be at the entrance of her V and they will defend him and say but he didn't fully go through with it. Pam can just say hi to Aood and that will also to emotional cheating (sarcasm)
I know those same ppl will reply....saying same things. We already had that discussion. I won't reply/discussed again. Beating a dead horse. I'm not trying to convince you of anything ....
I'm pointing out these points....
I see ...at least on here more than YT....ppl justify Dino cheating.
If he wasn't handsome....all the fangirl won't justify it.
Again writer character Assassination. He was fighting tooth and nail until last 2 min of ep 10.....makes no sense....they already has her family and his past as barrier
Fact - He cheated- lied he would ever cheat after he just cheated.
- rationalize and excusing the cheating.
- making the cheating seem less by blaming the FL. *well she emotionally cheated * > Now his cheating is somewhat justified cuz she cheated too
Emotional cheating requires the sexual tensions ans Emotional feelings of desire.
Pam desire not to be with Aood in a sexual or emotional connection.
If both called her, she'll pick up Dino's call. As it is seen she is supporting Dino no matter what She justify his cheating and is understanding to his past.
Emotional cheating is not just hanging out with other people and talking to them.
With that rationale...dino is physically and emotionally cheating. He had diner with Da...talk to her. He hung out with Jessica and talk to her. In intimate settings.
If that is the case we have all emotionally cheated on our partners when we go hang out and talk to our friends (male of female - regardless if they have a crush on us)
Pam and Aood was always respectful even in conversations.
Why is it we have to rationale or justify it ?
It went from, he's not cheating since he was interrupted to.....he cheated but she emotionally cheated. Therefore his cheating isn't so bad because she "emotionally " cheated which she didn't. We alter the reality to fit the narrative we want.
The writer and director did a CHARACTER ASSASSINATION of Dino.
We need to call them out and demand more from the writers/director. We want better writing/directions.
Why don't we demand more from them to do better.
This is why Chinese and Korean drama is more popular.
totally agree.. thats all pretty much cheating.. one can even cheat emotionally
I don't hate him....
But I hate what he did and then lie about it.
Again
As i said many times....
It is the writer and director character assassination.
They had Dino fighting tooth and nail until the very last sec of ep 10. ....that makes no sense.....
If Dino was a ugly guy......less ppl would justify the cheating
Also ppl sare saying pam emotional cheating....so it makes Dino cheating don't seem so bad because she did it too "emotionally"
Which she didn't...
She confined and hang out with a friend whom she knows b4 him.
Let see...she asked him those questions because....he lied and he has them calling and taunting her. I E. Condom wrapper in the car. She asked him why didn't he tell her about the party....he straight up said he would not cheat on her...after he cheated
Aood Never taunt Dino and Pam and Aood isn't touchy....hands over body...ect... Their interactions has always been respectful.
All of us have hung out with a friend (boy or girl, who may have a crush on us) and confined in them about a relationship
Apparently we have people arguing it is not cheating and justifying itThey did so well...then they did a character…
I disagree she is emotional cheating
If that is the case we all have emotionally cheated. Don't tell me none of us confided in a friend (male or female) about our relationship and go hang out with them (male or female - either sex could or do have a crush on us)
***Emotional cheating happens when you establish a close, intimate connection with someone who isn't your partner. You can generally tell emotional infidelity apart from simple friendship because your interactions often involve some **sexual tension or romantic attraction.***
AOOD has a 1 sided crush. She never reciprocate it in any way. She has always told him she didn't like him that way.
Emotional cheating is when a person is interested in the other person whom is not their partner....but is holding back with the physical intimate reaction
This is NOT happening with Pam and Aood. PAM has no intimate reaction or want that with Aood. She only see his as a friend she confide him in
Aood is not a secret. Aood knows abour Dino. He knows Pam doesn't like him that way. She seek him out for advice like a friend does.
Her interaction with Aood does not cause her to like Dino any less...Dino comes 1st for her
She has no desire to have to speak to Aood...or need to see and be around him. If aood and dino calls her....she won't hesitate...she'll pick up dino call vs. Aood
I watch clips here and there...
But haven't watched it.
Yes....many time the discussions has more interesting factors.
I had high hopes for gmmtv with more ....they actually have eng sub vs. The other ch....lack creativity and storyline
I feel like they can do better for the actors
Hahaha
I highly recommend the love proposal.
This could be better
1. No cheating
2. Character consistency with growth
3. Challenging interactions for Character growth and development
4. The villians were drawn out
5. FL family had no progression/development
6. Cheapen plot line to dramatized
I didn't expect much from this plot/drama. I enjoyed the beginning. I felt the lead can help each other grow with the support and understanding they gave each other.
Instead it's over the top dramatization and character assassination.
They should've taken notes from sand princess and 49 days. They execute it better for a simple plot line. Easy watch, romance with some conflicts/dynamics
But as you said ppl enjoy it and was invested.
I skimmed it and give it a view to support the actors.
It a discussion board....ppl here to discuss....
Many discuss how we realy enjoyed it until the writing and character assassination
Ppl are so crazy 🤪.....there will always be some type of similarities in all dramas
It usually starts well and by half way or 3rd quarter.....it goes downhill
Sigh
In interviews Namtarn amp him up and compliment him a lot. They said they are very comfortable together and did some adlib
I also don't think Josh has a lot of challenging roles either....but he improved in ROAD TO REGRET (good old days). He emoted well, again good partner with Namtarn and kay
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Urg....character and writing assassination. I'm giving it a click view because i love Namtarn....
Wtf is this.....this script is ridiculous and insane...grandpa with the gun on Dino
WTF wrote the script....it was going ok until car cheating....downhill afterwards
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Check list
-Cheating
-lying >> secret
-Harassment (villians)
-gun
-extreme characters (grandpa + villians)
-noble idiocy
-SLS
I feel many ppl are there for the abs but not many would say so
Da shows up....whatever
FL supported ML no matter what and made excuses for him making out with her in the car
Damn gmmtv.....why...? Why?....that was a stupid storyline. They should have him not kiss her....ep 11 pish her off ran off.....Da can appear...whatever
Leave the cheating out of it
I'm just skimming and giving view because i support the actors..
.not the character and script assassination
I read the defense on Dino character and the bashing on Pam. I feel he can be at the entrance of her V and they will defend him and say but he didn't fully go through with it. Pam can just say hi to Aood and that will also to emotional cheating (sarcasm)
I know those same ppl will reply....saying same things. We already had that discussion. I won't reply/discussed again. Beating a dead horse. I'm not trying to convince you of anything ....
I'm pointing out these points....
I see ...at least on here more than YT....ppl justify Dino cheating.
If he wasn't handsome....all the fangirl won't justify it.
Again writer character Assassination. He was fighting tooth and nail until last 2 min of ep 10.....makes no sense....they already has her family and his past as barrier
Fact - He cheated- lied he would ever cheat after he just cheated.
- rationalize and excusing the cheating.
- making the cheating seem less by blaming the FL. *well she emotionally cheated * > Now his cheating is somewhat justified cuz she cheated too
Emotional cheating requires the sexual tensions ans Emotional feelings of desire.
Pam desire not to be with Aood in a sexual or emotional connection.
If both called her, she'll pick up Dino's call. As it is seen she is supporting Dino no matter what
She justify his cheating and is understanding to his past.
Emotional cheating is not just hanging out with other people and talking to them.
With that rationale...dino is physically and emotionally cheating. He had diner with Da...talk to her. He hung out with Jessica and talk to her. In intimate settings.
If that is the case we have all emotionally cheated on our partners when we go hang out and talk to our friends (male of female - regardless if they have a crush on us)
Pam and Aood was always respectful even in conversations.
Why is it we have to rationale or justify it ?
It went from, he's not cheating since he was interrupted to.....he cheated but she emotionally cheated. Therefore his cheating isn't so bad because she "emotionally " cheated which she didn't. We alter the reality to fit the narrative we want.
The writer and director did a CHARACTER ASSASSINATION of Dino.
We need to call them out and demand more from the writers/director. We want better writing/directions.
Why don't we demand more from them to do better.
This is why Chinese and Korean drama is more popular.
But I hate what he did and then lie about it.
Again
As i said many times....
It is the writer and director character assassination.
They had Dino fighting tooth and nail until the very last sec of ep 10. ....that makes no sense.....
If Dino was a ugly guy......less ppl would justify the cheating
Also ppl sare saying pam emotional cheating....so it makes Dino cheating don't seem so bad because she did it too "emotionally"
Which she didn't...
She confined and hang out with a friend whom she knows b4 him.
Let see...she asked him those questions because....he lied and he has them calling and taunting her. I
E. Condom wrapper in the car. She asked him why didn't he tell her about the party....he straight up said he would not cheat on her...after he cheated
Aood Never taunt Dino and Pam and Aood isn't touchy....hands over body...ect...
Their interactions has always been respectful.
All of us have hung out with a friend (boy or girl, who may have a crush on us) and confined in them about a relationship
If ppl have moral ans standards then it won't be an issues
But stop being friends with someone because they have crush on you or you're in a relationship is not reasonable
If there is no trust or commitment....good functional communications
Then you don't have a sustainable relationship
Regardless if there is a 3rd person or not.
A mature relationship of the same respect, trust ,
want, needs ...ect....won't have an issues with a friend
Aood is Not an ex lover....he is a friend
So when we are in a relationship we should not have friends?
I have a male friend who has a crush on me....we are still friends....he know how i feel and is cool with it....we talk as friends
Emotional cheating is when there is a intimacy and sexual tension.
Pam has none of that for Aood.
I said this in another reply.
If Dino and Aood both call her at the same time
..she will pick up and run to Dino in a heart beat
....
No hesitation on Pam...Dino is her #1
If she was emotionally cheating....she would have a conflict
If Aood was a Female ...i honest feel no one would say Pam is emotionally cheating
If that is the case we all have emotionally cheated. Don't tell me none of us confided in a friend (male or female) about our relationship and go hang out with them (male or female - either sex could or do have a crush on us)
***Emotional cheating happens when you establish a close, intimate connection with someone who isn't your partner. You can generally tell emotional infidelity apart from simple friendship because your interactions often involve some **sexual tension or romantic attraction.***
AOOD has a 1 sided crush. She never reciprocate it in any way. She has always told him she didn't like him that way.
Emotional cheating is when a person is interested in the other person whom is not their partner....but is holding back with the physical intimate reaction
This is NOT happening with Pam and Aood. PAM has no intimate reaction or want that with Aood. She only see his as a friend she confide him in
Aood is not a secret. Aood knows abour Dino. He knows Pam doesn't like him that way. She seek him out for advice like a friend does.
Her interaction with Aood does not cause her to like Dino any less...Dino comes 1st for her
She has no desire to have to speak to Aood...or need to see and be around him. If aood and dino calls her....she won't hesitate...she'll pick up dino call vs. Aood
Aood is her friend.
Again she did tell him she is not interested and friend zone him many times....he ia her friend even b4 the relationship
Yes aood said it is hard for him....he is not being shady but doing this out front......
Her not being open in the relationship is about her grandpa....he knew going into that relationship...her grandfather is an issue....