PeachBlossomGoddess

Well the way this drama is telling it, it looks like the crown princess through her willfulness has brought about the downfall of the crown prince. He always had poor judgement but started to really unravel after Chen Ji was killed. Ying Ying may have not done the same thing. More importantly, it seems that the crown princess is going to bring down Chu Mu's sister. Now that would be really sad. And it will ruin any prospect of her sister and Chu Mu's youngest brother's relationship. So I would say that was a big ass mistake on their part.

I would add Ashile Sun publicized her "death" so that people would stop looking for her to help her disappear.

Yes that is what I was hinting at without wanting to potentially spoil anyone and it neatly avoids tragedy route - I saw the speculation re: one of them is the real Duke Chang which doesn't work from an age point of view and if they are an alternate heir, I have seen enough of these drama to know how that typically ends...

Changge's tutor was Wei Zheng - the greatest Tang prime minister. She was also very close to Li Shimin, who was a great general with many military victories before his father overthrew the emperor and seized the throne.

There are links in the discussion threads to the backstory. Her uncle Li Shimin/emperor Taizong did kill both his brothers in a struggle for the throne. The incident was known as the Xuanwu gate incident.

She was a real tomboy, interested in martial arts and schooled by the best tutors in the nation who end up as advisers to Li Shimin'/Taizong on matters of state including military strategies. She was also very close to her uncle Li Shimin who was one of the top generals with many battle victories to his name. And yes, some suspension of disbelief is needed on that point but a lot of people (AvenueX) rant about this point without giving proper credit that the backstory does try to explain why she is so capable at such a young age.

The sad truth is Lu Yingying is a much nicer person. But thanks to Fu Rou and Chu Mo's meddling, the crown princess is this crazy insecure b*tch....

The frog vs. the prince.

Yeah and I still have huge reservations about the guy so I am keeping my expectations low.

I agree there are other good side mysteries and he may or may not be the main instigator. i hope neither of the boys are actually potential challengers to the throne so any questions around their birth is a different plot thread. If one of them is a potential challenger, it is just not gonna end well for them so I don't want to see that.

LOL! Seriously I don't need that much romance, I can watch for other things.

They are more interesting bc they are complicated but also very dysfunctional. He is really high handed borderline abusive to her they are the relationship I dislike the most.

Overflowing with love...

LOL - I think its Wu Lei and Dilraba just played dumb. Actually it is very easy for Canto and Mando speakers to understand each other very well. But speaking is very difficult bc Canto has 9 tones most Mando speakers can't hit all of them bc Mando has only 5 tones. Canto speakers also have a hard time erasing their extra tones so they also don't speak Mando that well. But both sides understand each other just fine.

Yes he is but he is also a jerk. He loves making women look dumb I hate it. This is the only drama of his that I didn't drop. Tbh I am still in shock he produced something like this where Changge is so strong and capable. His typical FL is more like Leyan in the beginning.

At least you see the other... I still don't know what type of story they want to be...

Tempting but... depends on who... I am not that invested in Chu Mu and Fu Rou tbh - he is too immature and she is too goody two shoes she really bores me. I like Chu Ling and the princess they are funny but also two dimensional. The Han couple I like a lot more than the two put together so if she dies...

Indeed... beats a wedding any day of the week.

Thank you - I finally know why this is the only show by this director I didn't drop... the actors didn't understand wtf he was saying and did their own thing!!!

As someone who grew up in brain washing places, lemme just say its much harder to brainwash someone than most people think. The least brainwashed people I have met in my life are from China. And the most are from a place I won't mention bc I don't want to be bashed.