Saffy88

MY is turning out to be a spoilt immature moron only now waking up to the fact that his actions have real consequences for everyone close to him. Really have to wonder again if he wasn't switched at birth with FSG. I think he was mortified if only for a few hours or so after the stabbing, but he's the one who embarked on this Karen mission and there's no turning back.

He is doing this for his idiot son who has left him no choice. Besides, every single one of the villains from XJS to the PM to MY are guilty of a ton of bloody deeds and deep betrayal. Don't forget XJS set up death camps and he and MY wanted to decimate a whole city's civilian population just to trap and kill FSG. Compared to them are Murong Sr's crimes really that much greater?

But his motivation is also the most understandable in the story and far more convincing than the others with their half-baked or run of the mill motives.

I think about 99% of the problems in period cdramas are down to bad parenting - douchebag dads and manipulative moms abound😅

Really have to beware when good people turn bad, cos then they become really good at being bad. Murong Sr is way more decisive and effective than most of the other ninny plotters around him, especially his nincompoop moron of a son.

He really should take a shot at the throne cos amongst all this motley crew he probably is most qualified to be an effective ruler.

Karma, can’t go around sticking swords in other people and not expect some karmic rebound.

Something really is rotten in the state of Susha: this imperial family (with the exception of FSG, his departed mom and maybe his (to date) clueless bro) is so textbook dysfunctional. Imagine waiting 15 years just so he can finally return the same words to the Empress.............truly this drama showcases all kinds of characters who can't love, love in the wrong way, or use love to justify their bad behaviour.

Hmmm the PM in his crazed revenge frenzy seems to have forgotten that he also owes a blood debt to FSG.

Li Qin performing a beautiful deadly ballet with the bow and arrow 💯💯

Eh, am sure the leaked kissing sequence was longer than what we finally got today............and the director still couldn't resist letting off some flares here and there 🙄

Yes there is because the root cause is that he loves in the wrong way. He wants to control and possess - that is not love. This results in him treating people closest to him like things.
As FSG pointed out, he has other alternatives as heirs. But because he still wants to "beat" his first wife, he remains fixated on controlling FSG's life. For eg, with Chenyang is it really that he doesn't have what it takes, or that the Emperor already long ago decided no one with a smidgeon of Zhuang blood will inherit? What if he had focused as much energy on him as he did FSG?

Those 2 kinda belong together 😂. Really didn't take very long for her obsession to go wonky and turn to hate. Wah, all these people are a therapist's dream clients with their OTT neuroses.

Right?

Hmmm maybe took too much ancient equivalent of tylenol/panadol as a kid 😂

Sons who don't deserve their fathers and fathers who don't deserve their sons..............they should all have been switched at birth

Hard to believe he grew up in his father's household and could still hatch such a dingbat scheme.

The Susha Emperor should have put in place better retirement plans for his former comrades-in- arms before their kids came up with dingbat programmes for them.............

Yes, that's what I'm still hoping he (or rather the writers) is/are keeping up his sleeve. That he's thinking if his dad and the emperor all started out as warlords at the same time, he feels that it's his family's turn/right to take the throne. Because that's the only game in town and the only prize worth winning, isn't it? And the only fitting compensation for his chopped off toes.........

XJS definitely more sinister lah and has bigger plans..............I found MY soooo disappointing, especially if what he said today is really his only basis for his behaviour.

Actually we still don't know how the PM's son died and what the Emperor role was in that. Remains to be seen how justified the PM is in his rage, and how much is coloured by ambition for the throne. Cos throughout history tons of fathers have lost their sons, just as tons of sons would have lost their fathers fighting in wars declared by their rulers, justified or not, and/or in the course of other duties.