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He’s standing up to his brother, so that counts. I went back and watched from the beginning and back then his whole posture was different; he was folded in on himself like he wanted to disappear. Now he’s standing up straight and making more eye contact. And remember, he did ask for a divorce and he left everyone behind. LK chased him down; he didn’t go begging to him. He’s doing the best he can under difficult circumstances and limited options.

This show has actually grown on me as it’s progressing. It’s subtle; you really have to pay attention to see the character growth. I’m just sad we didn’t get two episodes this weekend,

I get it 100%, but these characters both have trouble honestly communicating. The underlying message behind the ultimatum of saying that if he leaves now, don’t bother coming back, is: “I don’t want you to leave me again; stay with me and commit to our relationship.” However, if you meet a man this emotionally constipated, run away! But it works for me in this drama.

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I see your point logically, but it would have been so jarring to see two completely new actors in those roles! I think the director made the right decision there.

This ended up being much better than I expected! I credit the two actors for their hard work and amazing performances. I hope we see them acting together again, because they’re pure magic as a couple. ❤️

Boat and Oat are one of the best couples in BL land in their NC scenes. I also have no issue with their regular acting, but can we pleeeeease get these two a proper script? Because this isn’t it. I spend too much time being bored. Sigh.

Now that my wine rant is over, that NC scene was SO beautiful, one of the best I’ve had the pleasure of watching. The blinds behind them, the music… All of it was just perfect. Sensual, passionate, and also tender and sweet, I couldn’t ask for more!

If episode 12 ends with a breakup 🥺 or a cliffhanger 😡 …

My theory is that LQ wants XF to become strong enough to fight for their relationship instead of withdrawing and running away. I think he keeps testing him deliberately to see if he has changed. Considering that there is still that pesky marriage issue, I hope the divorce happens soon!

Baby steps, everyone! XF finally got away from the toxic influences - and he threw away everything LQ ever gave him. I wonder where we go from here because I doubt LQ is going to let his Fan Fan go so easily.

I loved this show, even the ending (bad AI beach notwithstanding). I love the way Mr. Prosecutor finally opened up emotionally; his whole demeanor softened visibly. After the usual combination of anger and passion, thiswas lovely. On that note, Kim Yoon Sik is an amazing actor and I hope we see more of him!

I think we’re all focusing on that NC scene because we were already emotionally invested in them. For example, the first scenes in “My Stubborn” didn’t resonate with me until later in the series. I didn’t even know the characters at that point so there was no context to that encounter. In Payback we have that context and the surrender isn’t just physical but also mental and emotional, which is why it was so touching. Sun is choosing to live for the first time in five years and he’s putting full faith and trust in Jay to help pull him out of that darkness and guilt. It was almost too much to watch.

It’s called “acting” for a reason. This is literally their job. Performing so well that the audience believes it’s real is exactly what an actor is being paid to do. Besides, there is more to it than we see - the blocking and instructions for each scene (“Put your arm down more; we can’t see your faces”, “Tilt your head back so we can get that closeup of the neck kiss”), not to mention a camera in your face take any real sexiness out of it.

Btw, this is why I never watch the BTS. It takes away all the magic and I’d rather see them as the characters they’re playing. I just never confuse acting with real life, because the two are very different.

I love the way they ripped off their clothes in episode 4. I wish more couples would do this. None of that slow, gentle disrobing that takes forever. Nope, just take off everything as quickly and urgently as possible. 😁

I watched parts of episode 5 and 6 more than once. Our little soup maker isn’t quite the pushover that many of us thought he was. He didn’t get in the car and BLQ subsequently had to buy a birthday cake and appear in front of him later. XF also tried to give back the key, only to be told rather irritably that he should keep whatever is given. Should he have asked more questions about the last two years? Of course, but that’s not who he is. He has a lot of pride which keeps him from simply accepting BLQ’s gifts. I loved the offhand, “If you don’t want it throw it away” comments with both the phone and the scarf; BLQ knows his FanFan would die rather than throw away anything that can still be fixed or still used. And that scene when BLQ said, “You can wait but can I?” I get the feeling he has been starving for the taste and feel of XF ever since their breakup. My romantic heart loves this. There are definitely BD/sm elements to their relationship but both of them are into it, so I’m sitting here with popcorn.

I can’t totally suspend all logic - clothes on the ground outside the car in a parking garage and not one person arrives or leaves during their “interlude”? Yes, I know this is the drama within the drama but I rolled my eyes anyway. My favorite part was the exchanged words in the bathroom. I have a feeling the next two episodes will be a bit rough for our actors. I’m stilll loving this show!

Yes. Criminal charges and eventual imprisonment also come to mind.

Of course not, but thank you for setting people straight who might think otherwise! This show is so insane and I love it, anyway!

How many ethical violations does this show have? I’m entertained and here for all of it, but seriously, a therapist getting involved with their patient is probably one of the first lines a therapist in training is told not to cross! I know, I need to suspend all logic and for the most part I do - and then something like this happens and I’m laughing and shaking my head at the same time. Looking forward to tomorrow’s episode!

This episode was so annoying I don’t even want a second season. Argh.