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Lan Xiya did get a magnolia nomination, which is an achievement in her age, Jiang Xing in Romance in the Alley took it, and she's pretty much a lead role in ensemble drama.

While Gu Yu is fictional, her experience was cobble of I think three people or something? I remember from some behind the scenes stuff.

I actually like the other girls alright, although they don't get as much focus. I think I actually liked that they have pretty normal problems, and newer generation of kids have slightly different set of regular problems. It humanises the students more than poverty/tragedy focus would I think. I also really liked that they end up at schools/career that fitted them, no one magically end up being amazing and go to a school that's way out of league. (looking at you The Hope)

Patrotic shows don't get rating boosted, unless they are done decently (and make a splash somewhat), then they sorta get buff'ed up. A lot of the other patrotic shows don't get enough ratings to have a rating or they have mediocre ratings (esp compared to measley amount of people that rated them, which usually boost ratings, like anything niche). Some of the dramas douban ratings might be bit boosted to promote a platform project, I think To The Wonder (promo'ed Altay region) and Long Season (X Theatre) got boosted from that. (or I'm just salty they got really high scores I don't think they deserver :P) For this drama specifically, it's Zhang Guimei herself and her story that got it boosted, the widely panned movie version helped a bit, as did the humour and pacing and zero focus on romance.

Non mainland shows have always done better on Douban, including hk dramas, cos they are more niche (people who bother to watch them and rate them are already fan of them usually). Hollywood movies are actually bit less overrated, compared to US tv shows, cos they are watched by the public more, but only blockbusters I guess. cdramas are also subject to diction issues/fandom stuff/plagiarism/scandal etc that can influence its ratings, cmovies are also bit lower in general compared to dramas, since it has a bigger pool of people rating them.

she appears in ep 15 and they marry in ep 21, she has a baby in ep 23. it covers 1998-2008 and is more of a business drama, so it blitz through a year in roughly 3 episodes at a time (some of the years are shorter, some are longer).

anniversary of establishment of ccp today so cctv 1 is airing something else, cctv 1 does this a lot, but usually around chinese new years is the worst, unless you get really really lucky like long life journey or always on the move.

17 won't air today, it airs on monday. this drama is airing on tv, cctv 1 airs dramas mon-fri or mon-thurs (like the first week).

People looking for Song Zu'er, she appears in ep 15 or 16, this is on par with the book, where her character appears 40% through the book. The other ladies are shown as a comparison why Cui Bingbing is a right choice for Liu Jun I think.

For Like a Flowing River audience, Liang Sishen aka Yang Caiyu appears in ep 7, her husband Song Yunhui aka Wang Kai who's been namedropped multiple times should appear in ep 13/14, they are both cameo though.

Liu Jun is very idealistic, I love that his dad and best friend is very supportive of him, but will explain to him why his way doesn't work as well.

it's ep 15-16 i think, 13-14 is cctv 1's ep numbers. she appears 40% through the book, so this is on par with the book.

ep 7 airs in 4hrs, this week it airs mon-fri.

I think they wanted to show the kinda problems and char growth the students might have, it's why there's second gen too, they had slightly different set of problems besides the more commonly thought ones. I think it'd work well as movie, too bad that one got heavily criticised.

can't remember what happened around then, I guess when gu yu went to do her own thing and then bits about second gen? I thought it was pretty consistent, but I think I thought 23 was pretty short for the drama to begin with lol.

oh shame!! i really liked the drama, it was more interesting and funnier than I thought it'd be.

i can't remember anything in my recent memory,. maybe not something i watched. there are people that refer to zhang guimei as xian sheng, but it's not in she and her girls. I sorta dislike it for modern/republican times, since every men is "respected" but only renowed women can use it.

idk why i have this impression but i always took xian sheng being for men be a relatively recent thing, like republican thing. I guess in my head, gu dai = fedual = up till qing? LOL

it's definitely severely underperforming. Judging by the cast + director + ma boyong, it's probably expecting heat indext 30000, and if we go for minimum, probably 28000. It still hasn't broke 27000. The compensation thing is cos they've been consistently giving out 20k vips every day, usually this doesn't happen for non-liuliang dramas. For liuliang, it's usually fans organising it, here it's drama production team. for tv ratings, it's not doing well, I never really expected it to do that well for cctv 8, but it's worse than I thought it'd be.

I think even for modest or low budget drama standards, it bombed, I think it'd be easier if this was a modern.

zi chuan was one of the highly regarded web novels that predates all the series you listed and most of the currently popular series, it's from the same time period as the novoland and zhu xian (chusan), except novoland was serialised in magazines and zi chuan was apparently serialised on qidian.

for the drama, it bombed, tencent has a donghua that it might continue but i don't think the donghua did too well either. but tencent have lot more money to throwaround. this series only has a season 2 cos they filmed 50 episodes at once before the 40 ep hard limit came in.

he played shen teng and ma li's son in the successor (movie), does that count? (I still haven't watched it but it's not AS depressing as these suspense :P there's a depressing tinge I guess). oh yeah he was in wang baoqiang's boxing movie too, I just keep skipping these movies lol.

They've been working on the waterways (even the small ones) for at least a decade I think. The ones near me have gotten cleaner, but once like 3 months they still smell absolutely foul LOL. They are the tiny ones that only fits like two cars side by side (I know cos the ones in front of my grandparents got paved over in late 90s), I think my uncle only swam in them in maybe 80s.

tangently related, cos i was watching watch your back/stealing time straight afterwards. That was set in 2004 with some flashback to 90s, I found that more time accurate. I think the lack of yellow nostalgia filter helped. but mostly I was super impressed with the amount of different phones they found, there was even cool sliding ones with a full keyboard (like it slides horizontally)!!

I mean the high road thing kinda make sense, but I think in reality, I think it was doing well in 90s, not so well in 00s, and better in 10s? I read some complaints about it, but since it's not as easy to spot, it wasn't big issue for me. I expected more things about the canal too lol.