Also...I need someone to tell me I'm crazy but...was there romantic tension between Todd and Black or am I hallucinating? The emotions between the two of them are intense and complicated for sure. When Todd went back to lay on the bed when they were talking and Black got up I gasped because I could have sworn they were going there with the plot...I know in the book it's Black and Gram but what kind of a fucked up, crazy plot twist would it be if Todd and Black were somehow romantically involved before things went to shit between them. I could even see it being like a hook-up situation for Black where Todd caught deeper emotions and now teeters between wanting to punish Black for not feeling the same but also can't let go entirely. From a logical standpoint, I get Todd's reasoning even if it's flawed. I do think he believes that his thirst for power comes from a place of wanting to "help" Black but, like Black said, power corrupts and the people who thirst for power are usually the exact opposite of the type of people who should actually hold power. I don't know, especially because of this whole confusing Black, Gram, Eugene triangle where it seems they're pivoting the story to Gram actually having feelings for Eugene...what if...just...what if...
Riveted. Completely sucked in. THIS is how you do a slow build. I swear the whole episode I was just a ball of tension as I watched things play out because I was so invested in the outcome. And there's still so much to come! I was just sitting there muttering to myself that White needed to just tell Sean the truth, so much so my sister asked who I was talking to from the next room lmao. Though I will say I think the actual way we got the reveal was not only entertaining, it held the right sort of dramatic tension right up until the satisfying release.
And the substance! I get that substance isn't for everybody but you honestly can't just always fill your head with mindless fluff. Right now we're in the middle of the world continuing to crumble because of the same patriarchal, white supremacist, colonialist, capitalist power structures that continue to erode and putrify progress. People NEED to engage with this dialogue. If this somehow gets even one more person to think critically and realize how fucked up things are societally that's a win. If it gets even one more person to fight against systems of power that oppress and are specifically built to benefit only certain kinds of people who already live at the top, that's a win. All over the world we're battling and facing the same issues and once again we're at a critical moment in history where things are coming to a head. I'm so appreciative of the thinking that went into the writing for this series. May we all live to see the right kind of change happen in this world.
What to even say...I mean...wow. This series is like epic levels of pointlessness. Like...what the fuck? What even was that? I mean I feel like I've seen my fair share of completely asinine plot construction but to take two seasons to build up into a storyline that literally went nowhere with the most ridiculous conflict points, it's almost funny at this point. Especially when you consider they're clearly intimating that this will get a season 3. This didn't need a second season, let alone a third! I swear if Kaitoon ends up anywhere near Valen at the end this drama should officially be billed as a tragedy. Nobody should have that low of a valuation of their own self-worth. You'd have to be a bloody masochist to attempt to build a relationship with someone so completely self-involved and delusional, not to mention unstable, possessive, and aggressive. Valen has all the hallmarks of an abuser in every category, mental, emotional, and physical.
And don't even get me started on King and Peat's trainwreck, how did that make ANY kind of logical sense? I should have known we were losing it when they made Peat out to be this villainous stray dog snatcher. What was the point of Peat even coming back? Why go through all that nonsensical trouble? Like can we just drop this whole trauma of a series and pivot to the two people who can actually act in this whole project and get Peat and Sean's story? I was more fascinated by their five minutes of shadowy storyline and chemistry than I've been the entire 8 episodes of this series. Honestly, who cares about anyone else?
And OMG Non (?!?!?!) did he really just spend two seasons being a complete martyr? That has to be one of the saddest, most pathetic storylines for a character ever written, hands down and it's not even over (!!!) lmao not the man he's practically groveling to get to love him, recreating a date he had with his volatile ex...I just can't. Please put him out of his misery, stop torturing this poor soul. Wait, and the lost shoe catalyst...like I'm cackling but I should be in tears at how ridiculous this actually is. Ok, I think my rant is over, but I just had to get it out. If there's one thing that drives me insane it's when plots go in pointless circles and you just feel like you've wasted hours of your life to be right back where you first started with the characters: no development, nonsense plot construction, drama for the sake of drama...you can't root for anyone because they've all got serious issues, it's just a mess. I was already iffy about this after season 1 and I should have just dropped it then, I wish I had tbh. So frustrating to watch. No season 3 for me but good luck to whoever sticks with it.
This has quickly become one of my favorite series airing right now. We're finally getting somewhere in ep 6 with the two main couples. If I"m honest my favorite character right now is Boss (he's the right kind of prickly precious lol) but all of the main characters have been interesting and pretty developed. Now that the plotlines are moving in a more substantive direction I'm looking forward to seeing where this goes.
The fact that anyone could find Toh's behavior at all cute is absolutely beyond me. Nothing about this is funny to me. Every time I think about Nuea walking into an apartment secretly plastered with his face, with rotting things he's touched, and carefully cataloged trash (and lord knows what else) he's interacted with, it grosses me out. Toh's slavering, worshipful, Stepford wife responses to every interaction with Nuea are 'Misery' level realness. I just don't see what's funny and fluffy and rom-com worthy about Toh being a stalker that is nightmare-inducing. There's nothing "novice" about his tendencies, worse the way his character is portrayed is someone who needs serious help. How anyone can possibly sit through any scene with Toh and fully enjoy and appreciate his behavior I can't understand. I should have known better, but farcical "comedy" on subjects that ruin people's lives just isn't for me. It feels dated, there's no nuance, it's poorly written, poorly acted, and poorly produced. This feels like a BL we would have gotten ten years ago and it's sad. Knowing the prime audience this is targeted at this feels incredibly irresponsible.
Ugh, I'm so frustrated. They did Gameplay and Folk's talents so dirty with this horrible script and production. I'm sad I have to rate this as mediocre (at best) when with the talent they had it could have been so much better. I'm actually sad if Gameplay's management made him give up what could potentially have been a blockbuster role for...this. It makes me wonder because they seem to have been filming around the same time.
Pretty much my thoughts as well, but didn't Shiro already reveal his sexuality to Ichiro back in episode 2? When…
Now that I think about it, you're absolutely right that there's uncertainty about how much Shiro might have revealed. I was left with the impression that he hadn't revealed he was gay but now I can't remember why lol I guess that's a good excuse to go re-watch. You could totally be right and Ichiro already knows.
So was there a mistranslation of Phap not getting the siblings thing? Because honestly that's the only way any…
Apparently yes, Phap had no idea they were step-siblings (and somehow neither did Tharn, who was equally jealous and also one of Maze's best friends, so riddle me that). Also, apparently, Maze didn't get why Phap kept getting ridiculously upset every time Neung was even near him...it's a massive plot issue because they made this complicated jealousy arc when all it would have taken was a single conversation to resolve...
I got the feeling it was due to Min Hyun's near kidnapping. I also got the impression that Min Hyun may have almost…
Yeah, that's what I'm thinking, because he knew right away as soon as he saw his blue glowing eyes. They only get those eyes when they are about to feed or are hungry. I'm thinking somehow in the rescue or maybe in him researching why his brother was taken, he discovered the truth. It could also be that their parents were killed for the same reason/trying to protect them, and they passed that information along to the eldest brother so he could protect Min Hyun.
Why would Todd want White to pretend to be Black if he is the one who put Black in the hospital? what does he…
It's actually a perfect plan. He can keep tabs on Black in the hospital and at the same time get information on everything Black's gang is up to. White tells him everything.
I guess Vampires are a normal thing in their world xD. Plus there's something really wrong with the brother. Yes…
I got the feeling it was due to Min Hyun's near kidnapping. I also got the impression that Min Hyun may have almost been kidnapped due to his being a pure blood and that's how the brother knows about vampires and tries to keep Min Hyun as sheltered as possible.
This started off so strong and promising to me but unfortunately, it dragged. I think they went a bit too ham with the character flaws because it was hard to like and root for the leads (I'm sorry Singto, I love you!). You just couldn't understand why anyone would be interested due to their behavior. I already have a hard time with the "asshole gets the love of his life after being an asshole to them the whole series" - like in Boys Over Flowers - but at the very least if that's the case there should be some significant character development and I felt like Maze's was just too subtle...to almost be nonexistent lol. While I really did enjoy both Tae and Singto in their roles, and they matched more than I ever expected them to when the series was first announced, they were really let down by the writing. The fact that in the last episode they were re-hashing the EXACT same fight Maze and Phap had had literally 6 other times, it was like wow...we really have gone nowhere this whole series! Literally, all it would have taken was one conversation to resolve. The series could have benefited from being much shorter.
I love this, one of my favorites that are airing right now, I watch as soon as each episode is released! The last episode has been the best so far, I'm really into the whole plot. While I would still enjoy the show even if we don't ever get Shiro and Ichiro together, they've been hinting every now and then that there is an attraction that's growing into something more between them for sure (I first felt it when Ichi saw Shiro's tattoo). I'm still uncertain whether they'll delve fully into that but I felt like in episode 5 we've had the strongest indication that there are underlying feelings in their relationship. Especially when it comes to Shiro. I'm curious what will happen when Ichiro learns about Shiro's sexuality, and I'm wondering if a catalyst to them getting together might be the reveal of Shiro's "relationship" with the prime minister.
I've spent the last three episodes wondering what the hell the plot is about, but I also wondered if I just didn't get it because I kept zoning out. Totally fair that it could be on me, but judging from the comments I'm going to make an educated guess and say it's not. There is zero structure to the storyline. I get wanting to keep viewers guessing but there needs to be some significant character introduction to feasibly be able to have progression and development. It's like watching paint dry for the most part. I'm all for a slow burn but...there's ZERO burn. I may just have to give this one up, I don't know if I can put up with this for omg...I just looked, 12 episodes?! Are they serious? I was already thinking they could have condensed the last three into 1! I'm also not entirely comfortable with the blurred patient/doctor dynamics that are progressively concerning.
Who said Turbo wouldn't make a good Izumi again? Haha. I'm actually super happy with the first episode, in my humble opinion I feel like this is the best characterization we've had of a live-action Love Stage so far. All the characters are pretty spot on. The characters are quirky and funny how they're supposed to be, not the over-the-top ridiculousness of the Japanese version. And it seems like they might be giving the story a bit more nuance, so I'm really curious to see where they take this version. Anyway, it's kind of giving me nostalgia thinking back to when I first read the manga. Overall a great start I think, I hope it keeps up!
I'm really intrigued by this. I wish we could get more historical Thai BL, I would love to watch one set in an even later time period. If they dug into Thai folklore that would be amazing.
I'm glad that so far this was met my expectations for this series as I had high hopes. I can appreciate some story and character building, as usually I think storylines are too rushed. The first episode was set at a perfect pace for me. I have a feeling I'm going to be more drawn to the secondary couples, but I'm interested all around. They've managed to draw me in enough to see how things are going to play out. Based on the teaser they're going to go into some more mature topics so it will be interesting how that is handled. I actually enjoyed the acting, but I also think it's kind of early to tell either way how the actors will carry their characters throughout the series. I think they did pretty great for the first episode, and from my understanding, they're younger more inexperienced actors so that to me is a pretty good sign.
I'm not quite getting some of the references being thrown out for what this reminds people of. Sure it has the same coloring as ITSAY but I wouldn't say the cinematography, direction, or storyline are anything close to similar. If anything I'd say the closest production this reminds me of is Water Boyy, the movie from 2015. It's been a while since I've watched it and I remember the series being a bitter disappointment after the movie. I'd say (from my poor recall lol) that that would be a good "similar" comparison in my mind, although the storyline still doesn't match up. Which is good because it means they're bringing different characters to the scene which I can appreciate. Overall I'm curious and happy to continue watching.
And the substance! I get that substance isn't for everybody but you honestly can't just always fill your head with mindless fluff. Right now we're in the middle of the world continuing to crumble because of the same patriarchal, white supremacist, colonialist, capitalist power structures that continue to erode and putrify progress. People NEED to engage with this dialogue. If this somehow gets even one more person to think critically and realize how fucked up things are societally that's a win. If it gets even one more person to fight against systems of power that oppress and are specifically built to benefit only certain kinds of people who already live at the top, that's a win. All over the world we're battling and facing the same issues and once again we're at a critical moment in history where things are coming to a head. I'm so appreciative of the thinking that went into the writing for this series. May we all live to see the right kind of change happen in this world.
And don't even get me started on King and Peat's trainwreck, how did that make ANY kind of logical sense? I should have known we were losing it when they made Peat out to be this villainous stray dog snatcher. What was the point of Peat even coming back? Why go through all that nonsensical trouble? Like can we just drop this whole trauma of a series and pivot to the two people who can actually act in this whole project and get Peat and Sean's story? I was more fascinated by their five minutes of shadowy storyline and chemistry than I've been the entire 8 episodes of this series. Honestly, who cares about anyone else?
And OMG Non (?!?!?!) did he really just spend two seasons being a complete martyr? That has to be one of the saddest, most pathetic storylines for a character ever written, hands down and it's not even over (!!!) lmao not the man he's practically groveling to get to love him, recreating a date he had with his volatile ex...I just can't. Please put him out of his misery, stop torturing this poor soul. Wait, and the lost shoe catalyst...like I'm cackling but I should be in tears at how ridiculous this actually is. Ok, I think my rant is over, but I just had to get it out. If there's one thing that drives me insane it's when plots go in pointless circles and you just feel like you've wasted hours of your life to be right back where you first started with the characters: no development, nonsense plot construction, drama for the sake of drama...you can't root for anyone because they've all got serious issues, it's just a mess. I was already iffy about this after season 1 and I should have just dropped it then, I wish I had tbh. So frustrating to watch. No season 3 for me but good luck to whoever sticks with it.
I'm not quite getting some of the references being thrown out for what this reminds people of. Sure it has the same coloring as ITSAY but I wouldn't say the cinematography, direction, or storyline are anything close to similar. If anything I'd say the closest production this reminds me of is Water Boyy, the movie from 2015. It's been a while since I've watched it and I remember the series being a bitter disappointment after the movie. I'd say (from my poor recall lol) that that would be a good "similar" comparison in my mind, although the storyline still doesn't match up. Which is good because it means they're bringing different characters to the scene which I can appreciate. Overall I'm curious and happy to continue watching.