How old is the adult? because if someone is in high school, they are a child. and conflating legality with morality…
Do not try to impose your version of morality on other people.
Defining someone as a child simply because they are in school is not logical nor is it legally binding. Legally he was over the age of consent by at least One or two years. Also, the age of the other person does not matter as long as they are also above the age of consent.
There is a reason for age of consent, it implies that is the age at which people CAN give CONSENT to things like that. If it was intended to be '16 or over AND not in school' AND also be approved of by EVERYONE ELSE then they would have written the law that way.
You can disapprove of their relationship sure, but to claim it was immoral is a PROBLEM. That is your interpretation of morality based on your personal beliefs and has no basis in legality or necessarily the morality of other people.
According to this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KXi0WYwwNBg It's about a swimmer and a nurse who both fall for the same girl? I presume they end up ditching the girl and going for each other...
This is a good series. I see people bringing in their own issues about the age difference, but both of them were of legal age in Japan and also in a lot of other countries. (Jun was a high school senior so 17 or 18) At the time of production Japan's age of consent for males was 14 (raised to 16 in 2023).
All of that aside, that is not the focus of the series. If you are looking for sunshine and flowers BL then watch something else.(I also like those too!)
If you want a more realistic drama with a gay character then this is a good one.
According to this article, the production companies have made it a habit of not paying actors and crew until they absolutely have to do so, not just for this show, but it seems to be happening to multiple shows every year.
I read the article attached to the post you linked.I think you are drawing conclusions based on too little evidence…
@AnikaSingh I never argued whether it was a flop or not. I said the link provided was not proof of anything. Neither do original air ratings/views necessarily prove something is a flop. Again, I'm not arguing if it is or not, I'm pointing out a flaw in your logic. Some shows and movies become hits in reruns. For example, have you seen the original Willy Wonka movie from 1971? Would you believe it was originally considered a flop at the box office only to make a come back later in TV/VHS/DVD etc...
Arguments need to be rooted in facts and time will ultimately tell. Far too soon to say it was a flop just because of initial ratings.
ALL of that aside, I was not happy hearing that they removed the BL content, even though I've never actually read the webtoon involved.
So, if it does somehow recover in the future, it will probably NOT do so with the direct support of BL fans since there are so many actual BLs that can be watched instead.
Reminded me of China and the butchering of BLs there, but at least they can blame their government for it.
I read the article attached to the post you linked.I think you are drawing conclusions based on too little evidence…
You seem to be confused on the difference between a flop and mismanagement. A show can be a success and have the business end be mismanaged. In any event, I'm not interested in discussing it further.
IT FLOPPED SO HARD THAT THE ACTORS STILL HAVEN'T BEEN PAID ðŸ˜ðŸ˜ðŸ˜ðŸ˜ https://x.com/soompi/status/1808512020213362789
I read the article attached to the post you linked. I think you are drawing conclusions based on too little evidence unless you have more information than that. It MAY have flopped (I don't know). # Or they may not have gotten paid by the distributors yet. # Or it may be that they never properly secured the funding in the first place. # Or... it could just be an example of bad money management, especially if they are using the proceeds of the first one ('High School Return of a Gangster') to pay for the production costs of the other ('Spirit Fingers') in anticipation of more funds coming in.
So, there are a lot of possible reasons for this very sad situation. I tend to lean towards mismanagement personally, but that's without any evidence either. I suspect they either did NOT secure the funding, or they used the funds that were meant to pay the actors to pay for the second production. (Again...this is PURE speculation based on one article that only really stated that the actors were still owed money and the actors union got involved...no details beyond that in the article really)
I finally watched it..... On the plus side there are a couple of cute Korean guys.... On the minus side....well they seem to have been listed at great detail by others already... no chemistry, weak storyline, etc...
I love Mew...I have not watched this yet....it got a poor rating...but that won't stop me!....yes Mes deserves…
Yeah, caring about their sexuality is a waste of time. Care only about whether they can act the role convincingly. If you can't handle the romance/intimacy/kissing in a BL role...don't take the role! (Saying this in general...haven't watched this series yet...keep putting it off).
OK. So I watched it FINALLY after years of it being in my plan to watch category. With a name like 'Make Our Days Count' you expect there to be a tragedy somewhere in there. But, I have to agree with most people.....the way they did Episode 10(or 19&20 if you watch the 20 episode version) is beyond STUPID. Up till then it was 'OK', not my favorite by any means, but not bad.
Also, the adult/minor relationship tag is not accurate, he's a senior in high school true, but he's 18 (maybe 17 at some points) and Taiwan's age of consent per ageofconsent.net is 16.
He needs to branch out and play different characters, it seems like all these romantic comedies/dramas where he's with a 'strong female lead' are the same basic (very tired) tropes. And he feels more like a supporting character in them than the male lead. We know he has the ability, he just needs to get better scripts/productions!
Defining someone as a child simply because they are in school is not logical nor is it legally binding.
Legally he was over the age of consent by at least One or two years.
Also, the age of the other person does not matter as long as they are also above the age of consent.
There is a reason for age of consent, it implies that is the age at which people CAN give CONSENT to things like that.
If it was intended to be '16 or over AND not in school' AND also be approved of by EVERYONE ELSE then they would have written the law that way.
You can disapprove of their relationship sure, but to claim it was immoral is a PROBLEM. That is your interpretation of morality based on your personal beliefs and has no basis in legality or necessarily the morality of other people.
It's about a swimmer and a nurse who both fall for the same girl?
I presume they end up ditching the girl and going for each other...
I see people bringing in their own issues about the age difference, but both of them were of legal age in Japan and also in a lot of other countries. (Jun was a high school senior so 17 or 18)
At the time of production Japan's age of consent for males was 14 (raised to 16 in 2023).
All of that aside, that is not the focus of the series. If you are looking for sunshine and flowers BL then watch something else.(I also like those too!)
If you want a more realistic drama with a gay character then this is a good one.
He is not even a little bit bisexual.
I was bored enough to watch the whole thing..
I kept hoping it would get better....
It did not however...
Very sad.
https://mydramalist.com/article/appearance-fee-disputes-emerge-for-cast-of-k-drama-high-school-return-of-a-gangster
Neither do original air ratings/views necessarily prove something is a flop. Again, I'm not arguing if it is or not, I'm pointing out a flaw in your logic.
Some shows and movies become hits in reruns.
For example, have you seen the original Willy Wonka movie from 1971? Would you believe it was originally considered a flop at the box office only to make a come back later in TV/VHS/DVD etc...
https://www.buzzfeed.com/sam_cleal/movies-we-love-that-flopped-at-the-box-office
Arguments need to be rooted in facts and time will ultimately tell. Far too soon to say it was a flop just because of initial ratings.
ALL of that aside, I was not happy hearing that they removed the BL content, even though I've never actually read the webtoon involved.
So, if it does somehow recover in the future, it will probably NOT do so with the direct support of BL fans since there are so many actual BLs that can be watched instead.
Reminded me of China and the butchering of BLs there, but at least they can blame their government for it.
A show can be a success and have the business end be mismanaged.
In any event, I'm not interested in discussing it further.
I think you are drawing conclusions based on too little evidence unless you have more information than that.
It MAY have flopped (I don't know).
# Or they may not have gotten paid by the distributors yet.
# Or it may be that they never properly secured the funding in the first place.
# Or... it could just be an example of bad money management, especially if they are using the proceeds of the first one ('High School Return of a Gangster') to pay for the production costs of the other ('Spirit Fingers') in anticipation of more funds coming in.
So, there are a lot of possible reasons for this very sad situation.
I tend to lean towards mismanagement personally, but that's without any evidence either. I suspect they either did NOT secure the funding, or they used the funds that were meant to pay the actors to pay for the second production. (Again...this is PURE speculation based on one article that only really stated that the actors were still owed money and the actors union got involved...no details beyond that in the article really)
On the plus side there are a couple of cute Korean guys....
On the minus side....well they seem to have been listed at great detail by others already... no chemistry, weak storyline, etc...
With a name like 'Make Our Days Count' you expect there to be a tragedy somewhere in there.
But, I have to agree with most people.....the way they did Episode 10(or 19&20 if you watch the 20 episode version) is beyond STUPID.
Up till then it was 'OK', not my favorite by any means, but not bad.
Also, the adult/minor relationship tag is not accurate, he's a senior in high school true, but he's 18 (maybe 17 at some points) and Taiwan's age of consent per ageofconsent.net is 16.