WomanWonderer89

I agree! The Main Couple story is unique and DIFFERENT. It's refreshing to see an underused concept be brought to life on screen. Unlike the same old trope of the tsundere type bullying his prospective love interest getting more love and attention from viewers. Why? Do most of you guys have a fetish for emotional and verbal abuse? Because so far, that's all Shen does to Gao, so I really can't fathom what there is to love or ship yet. Just because Gao is a beloved character and we all feel sorry for him, and we may like the actor who portrays Shen, doesn't mean they should be together. At least not yet. Both need some serious character development before they are worth watching in my opinion, because the abuse we are being fed right now, isn't enticing for me like it is for a lot of you guys.

I completely understand your concerns and confusion about the hype surrounding the show. However, everyone has their own answers for your questions. Although I also enjoy watching TF out of RL, I think the general consensus among the BL fandom is that sometimes you've just got to leave your moral compass at the door and watch with reckless abandon. Let your inhibitions take over, your id to roam free.

Just watch for entertainment purposes, and that's all because the author/writer(s) created a very compelling, charismatic, yet morally grey character when designing Chi Cheng. When I casually saw him order the gang rape of that guy who wronged him, I was like, "What THE F*CK? This is going to be the main lead we are all supposed to love, root for, and swoon over?" And the answer is, yes. He is. The actor does a fantastic job portraying Chi Cheng, but we, as the audience, were never promised a nice guy, or even a good guy.

Chi Cheng is clearly a criminal. He's promiscuous, probably a bit neurodivergent, and "colorful" with his sexual preferences. He's a complex character, but let's be real; he's a rapist, and if we watch and enjoy this show, then we accept that about his past. However, in reality, so are MANY other BL main leads in other shows that are seemingly normal, charming, and romantic, but are actually red flags themselves. Yet, the majority of BL consumers watch and enjoy shows that contain these archetype characters too. The point is, this show is fiction, and with fiction comes escapism, fantasy, and ambiguity.

Most of the fandom are grown adults who should be mentally mature enough to understand right from wrong and distinguish fantasy from reality. We can enjoy a show that has many red flags and warning signs about a character or relationship, while still acknowledging that said tropes would not be ok in real life without feeling guilty or weird about it. That's what entertainment is.

So yes, although Chi Cheng has his many, glaringly obvious faults, he also has a lot of redeeming qualities that balance him out and make him an attractive character to watch with his love interest. It also doesn't hurt that the plot, chemistry between the actors, and general execution of the show are pretty decent. Like I said, your conscience and moral compass will have to be left at the door at times, but it's up to you on which shows or movies you will decide to do that.

Haha, true. I don't wanna wait, but to save myself from suffering every week, I think it's for the best ✊🏽🤭

Hi. I got that, but I still don't like his superiority complex. I know it's a genetic, hierarchy social-status sort of thing in their society so I guess I understand but their behaviour still urks me. Anyways, I'm still very willing to give the second couple a chance, but it will take some time and decent writing.

I wasn't going to watch this show because of the whole Omegaverse thing, but I caved pretty quickly due to all the overhype and so many people recommending it to me. Admittedly, I do like it. It's alluring, seductive, and holds my attention. For the show's worldbuilding, I appreciate the way they explain the ABO lore in detail. The show is a bit slow-paced, but in a rare turn of events for me, I don't mind the slow burn since I trust that the payoff period will be rewarding, at least for the main couple.

Regarding the secondary couple, I am not sure how to feel about them yet. I am avidly not a fan of the bully-to-lovers trope. I don't understand how victims fall for their abusers in stories; however, if written correctly and explained well, I can sometimes overcome that, depending on the characters, backstory, pacing, and circumstances. But in Shen Wen Lang's case, he's just an arrogant, self-absorbed douche who bitches too much to Gao Tu about hating Omegas and their scents 🙄🤨. Like, we get it. You have an aversion towards Omegas; shut up about it already. Clearly, for non-novel readers, we will eventually get the back story on that, but he's already a bore to me. And Gao's weird hero-worship of him like a whipped, love-sick puppy is pathetic.

I like Gao, but I feel sorry for him. And that SWL is unworthy of Gao's unconditional devotion and unrequited secret love. Gao's pining while he suffers because he frequently has to hide his Omega identity is pitiful, especially for such an unattractive and undeserving person like SWL. Hopefully, the secondary couple will change my mind about them as their interactions and relationship nurture and progress, but so far, I'm not impressed.

Plus, premiering the show with three episodes, only to release one episode every week thereafter, is cruel and unreasonable, especially if it is going to be slow-paced and the episodes are around 40 minutes long with not much happening. That's kind of dumb imho, but what do I know? They are really going to make us watch this show once a week until OCTOBER, though? Ugh, SMH 🤦🏽‍♀️. Maybe I will skip it till mid-September, and it will be better by then. We'll see. To everyone else, please enjoy!

For me, it wasn't that surprising. Shows always kill, or oftentimes kill off one of the most beloved characters. It was predictable that one of the main or lovable side characters would bite the dust, and most likely, it would be Chakri, to evoke an emotional reaction from the audience. SO many writers do it that I consider it a useless trope at this point. If Chakri is actually dead, what was the real purpose of killing him off, other than the obvious? I guess the reasoning doesn't need to be deep, but still. He deserves a better ending than that, even if he sacrificed his life and went out as a hero. Meh.

Because people like what they like, and clearly, and if you don't that's your problem. Not theirs's, not X's.

I'm no singer and have no vocal talent, but even I could tell Narin was hella off key the whole time. Glad to be validated 🤦🏾😂🤭

That's what I'm wondering. That scene when Thitawit was (seemingly) seductively rubbing his hand all up on Tada had me hella confused, as it was all subcontex and body language. Why is NO ONE talking about this? Hopefully, we will get more background on their history as youths in future episodes because I was shocked and confused at the implications.

Agreed. Of course it's the one who deserves it the least who has to take the brunt of Armin's frustrations and harsh words. I felt bad for Tada, too. Whether he's TD or not, Armin shouldn't have done that to him. It bothered me, but I can also understand.

Agreed, the Costume/Makeup department was pretty lazy with that. They could have added some crow's feet, smile lines, or some faint salt + pepper to 40 year 40-year-old Armin to demonstrate the drastic difference in time and age. Nothing too crazy, but certainly visible enough to show the aging other than glasses, which added nothing. You're right, Pond looked the same. And no way is Peterpan 27? I thought he was in his early to mid-30s. Actually, his age sounds about right. I'm just so used to millennials, and Gen Z looking so much younger than their actual ages, that Peterpan and Pond caught me off guard by actually looking their age, even though they both still look great and youthful, but physically mature.

It's not that easy to live in the "now" when you're constantly surrounded by the toxic, clearly jealous, conniving, calculating, and always scheming people who outwardly hate you, who did, and may have also strongly contributed to your murder in your previous life that ended not so long ago. I can understand why Armin is stuck in the past. Especially when he does nothing wrong, yet is always met with such disdain from literally everyone around him, other than Tada and naive Sam, who will later backstab him.

Yes, and you are right. BUT. I am saying that because this show includes rape and people don't enjoy watching rape and circumstances for which the rape was immersed in the relationship between Chain and Korn is why people don't like it, therefore, the lower rating, aside from all the other reasons you mentioned is valid. It's fiction, every one is aware of that, but the storytelling is too messed up for a lot to stomach, ergo, a low rating, among other things.

Excuse me. I also (surprisingly) enjoyed this show, despite its flaws, and I agree with the criticisms you mentioned that people should be making. But in regards to people disapproving of the rape and the Chain+Jorn coupling and lowering the score because of that, I don't think you have the right to judge. For one, you don't know Chain+Jorn are the main reasons for the low MDL rating. Two: everyone has different tastes. So if you are ok with watching media that depicts the romanticization of sexual violence then that's good on you just like it's ok for other viewers to love watching mafia bosses personally beat the shit out of someone, then go home to their loved one as if they're some misunderstood, ruff around the edges hero. Rape and violence in media are, understandably, not everyone's cup of tea. People who don't like watching it also understand it's fiction; they are not stupid babies for you to talk down to. For most people, rape isn't pleasant to watch. Just like brutal murder or vicious gang beatings of an individual are unpleasant. The point is, in both cases, whether in this show that depicts rape, or in another that depicts graphic violence, humans are physically brutalizing one another. Although fiction, the story still depends on the viewer's preferences when watching and what they consider tolerable, entertaining viewing experiences. And in Eye Contact's case, the sexual dynamic between Chain and Jorn didn't work for a lot of people for a multitude of reasons you aren't privy to. Sorry if you disagree.

Agreed. Just fluffy nonsense instead of intellectual intrigue that actually consists of storytelling and dynamic characters with personalities other than hot bodies and good looks. Heaven forbid, right?

Ya but sometimes slow burns are too slow, and boring. And then when the couple does get together, their fire is extinguished because it took too long for them to get together, or they get together, and their relationship is just boring. The romantic relationships in this show however, are at least thrilling. Although, sometimes I wish WSW would give CC some something other than the smallest of crumbs. I feel bad for CC sometimes lol.

It's called Plot Build Up. As I'm sure you're aware, their teasing is a constant sort of, "catch me if you can" chasing game. Someone else said they're also playing Cat & Mouse, which I'd say is also accurate. Their relationship is a slow burn, but it's a good kind, where you know the reward will justify the means. There are 24 episodes, so we need to establish the relationship, build on it, then navigate through it as multiple obstacles inevitably arrise. So far, the pacing has been on point, and although I agree that Yue Yue is bothersome, which is the point, her inclusion in the show, is fundamental to the plot. She'll be on her way eventually.

apparently, with the right choreography, anything can become an aphrodisiac

lol, pretty or not, she's awful. I'm glad he doesn't care about her whether WSW was in the picture or not. I can't stand attention whorea and Gold Diggers

That's not what intersex means, and don't be a stick in the mud. Im not crazy about mpreg and the omegaverse either. But, it is in fact fantasy whether you you agree with the concept or not. Fantasy is all about escapism and letting your imagination and inhibitions run wild. Your dreams are fantasies whilst you sleep. Fantasy isn't meant to mirror real life. It's a vehicle for expressionism, creativity, spontaneity, etc. If humans fly and animals talk in a fantastical world, then they are still animals and humans within that particular world, only, they have special powers or attributes about them. Not that I agree, but in the omegaverse, men can simply impregnate other men and that is considered normal because it's a fantastical world. It doesn't have to make sense to you or anyone else because it's escapism and that world has it's own set of rules, science, beliefs, physiology, psychology, sociology, etc.