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This. She saw him in the clothes and holding the knife so she just stopped watching and assumed

I'm assuming you've seen the movie Ballerina. If not, it's not amazing by any means but a good watch for the 2ish hours it is

While great shows, they aren't really antihero shows imo. My Name and Vigilante might be more what they are looking for

Disney and Hulu are together. A lot of times, if it's not on Disney+ but is a Disney show, it will be on Hulu. This show is an example of that

Vince Flynn's Transfer of Power might be up your alley then. It's not fantasy, but it's suspenseful and there is light romance in it. The whole series in great IMO, and most of them have slight romance, but the others are heavier in the romance since they are actually together.

The biggest one for me was the jump cut from the picture room to the pool room after he said that. It never showed them going back through the picture, just them all of a sudden in a different room

It wasn't the colaZ that caused him to suspect her, it's everywhere. I mean, there was a vending machine labelled that in that scene lol. He suspected her because of the unique way she crushes the can every time she's done with it. And yeah, it's made up; probably didn't try to get a brand for PP because they just wanted it to be her quirk instead of PP

Wasn't there 2 or 3 scenes? I thought there were more, which is why I was expecting more lol. But yeah, that scene could have just been introducing Gremory. I didn't even think about that lol. That scene, and the other 1 or 2 if I'm remembering correctly was the whole reason I said it wasn't the you messed up, you're punished thing. But if it was just that one, then yeah they could have just used her for Gremory

I'm curious what happened to her, the last scene I remember of her she was escaping and then that whole plot line disappeared for weeks. I don't think she is going to come back to Earth but I feel like we should at least know where she is by the end of the show since they had scenes of her in Hell.

If they just left it at "You sentenced her wrong, I fixed it and you're punished" then it wouldn't matter since it's not really a part of the story. But those scenes made me expect her escape or something. Anything.

It does align, but up until this case it was her decision to do so. He wasn't forcing her like he is now.

As I watched it, I didn't think about the nightmare illusion being what is happening, but the more I think about it, it tracks. I thought it was jarring while watching it how they went from the painting room to the pool/red flower things room without any transition. And Baels words don't fully go together either since if she was truly forgiven like he said, then wouldn't that include the original punishment? There's also the fact that she is his chosen heir, but their conversation in her office he said he would kill her, like a permanent kill, not just sending her back to Hell

Also, here's Bael

https://mydramalist.com/people/1488-shin-sung-rok

In Christian mythology, yes they are the same. In this show, they are not. We have never seen Lucifer, and we probably won't. But Bael and Lucifer are 2 separate demons in this show and Bael is under Lucifer. IIRC they went over it in ep 1.

Here's the heirarchy as far as I can tell of the demons we have seen or heard about:
1)Lucifer
2)Bael and Satan
3)Justita (and I think?) Paimon, or w/e the demon she killed last weeks name was
4)Gremory and some of the cooking class demons
5)Mando and the cleaners and the rest of the cooking class group

He's #2 in Hell, behind Lucifer. It's like Lucifer is the chairman that stays out of the day to day, but is still actually the boss; and Bael is the CEO that's there every day

The very first shot of Bael in ep 1 he didn't have the legs. He grew them out as he walked towards Justita. I'm assuming his leg things are like the angels wings when Gabriel and BitNa talked at night, and like in the show Lucifer, where they are always there, it's his prerogative to show them or not.

I mean, they're huge, and her office isn't exactly big, so he might have just not had them out lol. Every other time we've seen him, he was in a huge open area

The fact that she literally just side quested the number 1 issue in Hell for the past 26 years should give her a little bit of leniency lol. I don't think Bael has been telling her to do these ridiculous sentences all along, so I am interested to see why he wants J in Hell so badly that he's threatening to kill the person that solved his greatest issue

If he is Satan, that means BitNa was actually with Satan, no? I don't think demons body hop, at least it hasn't been done yet in this show, so he was already Satan before BitNa and him started dating.

I think it's more likely that she was the 2nd wife, and mother of the druggie brother. Either that, or the elder son was born from a mistress and she had to claim him as her own to protect her husbands reputation. That's a somewhat common thing that happens in chaebol type families in dramas. Romance in the House and Red Swan both had that plot line in the last couple months alone

I think it's more "My son (elder) killed someone, he still has his life to live. I will take the blame."

I think he knows how evil his son is, and the whole parent confessing to protect their child thing is common, both in dramas and real life. It's just this time, the son didn't actually kill his brother, his dad just thinks he did.

Caveat to that, it's a teaser so it could honestly be either and someone else dies earlier in tomorrows ep. I'm just assuming they are talking about the druggie brothers death.

I can't see him being Satan just because BitNa already killed him once. In this show, both body and soul die when the body dies, and the fact that DaOn was killed but brought back by Bael takes DaOn out of the running completely for me. If he was Satan, BitNa would not have been punished after she killed him in the early eps.

This was reinforced when BitNa told him I know with 100% certainty you never killed anyone when they were at the beach. Him being alive after her stabbing him is objective proof he does not belong in Hell, and even if Satan isn't J, Satan belongs in Hell so he would have stayed there after she stabbed him

One thing that doesn't make sense to me is her ex has killed people before, and obviously they were planning to cover up BitNa's murder anyways, so why would he send his brother to do it when he is obviously a f-up? Like, yeah, he and/or his dad made the brother what he is, but I think the fact that a judge saw evidence of imprisonment, torture, and murder would call for either a professional or him doing it himself over sending his drugged up brother that would have a high chance of being sloppy and leaving evidence around

Kim Ah Young is such an underrated actress imo. I've seen her in 2 shows now, and her character wasn't even close to the same. She was great at the cute, goofy bff in MN&D, and in this, she is killing the crazy demon role. Even her expressions and eyes seem completely different between them, it's like she completely immerses herself into whatever role she is playing like a more seasoned actress