The actress playing Lean must have either bad friends or a very bad management. She looks like a villager in a low budget 90s RPG with those blonde hair. The drama wasn't much better, as is the case with all of Ferin's dramas on the H'our channel. The two main characters in those always look and come across like if one was in their late 20s and the other was the college student little sister of one of her friends. Bad production, pretty bad acting, no chemistry and nonsensical story. Dropped after 3 eps. And I didn't even want to watch any of their dramas anymore... I can't help myself to give them more chances, I guess.
Ok, let me step on some toes real quick. I feel like this story had no real leg to stand on. It's basically two rich girls, who met each other once, fighting because... why exactly? Their fathers' business rivalry? Society's expectancy that the two heiresses continue that rivalry? A quarrel in high school? I didn't really get the reason why because all three of those wouldn't fit their characters at all and wouldn't make any sense anymore anyways a few episodes in. I hope Thai GL will, sooner rather than later, get away from this "we just need to let the main characters jump through as many hoops as possible in the little time we have" mentality. I pretty much stopped caring about their abundancy of problems in Ep 5 or 6 or so, when I could no longer ignore that most of them existed just to create drama, not because they contributed in any way to furthering the story or their relationship with each other. I had a lot of issues with Affair aswell, but that drama at least had a way more solid way of telling their story and depicting their relationship. And most of all, its story had a premise that made sense. LMSY is one of my favorite GL pairings and all the other actors/actresses were solid aswell, but not even that could save this drama for me.
Where did the H go in the title when Netflix unnecessarily shortened and localized it? Didn't have enough money at Wheel of Fortune? Oh, wait, you only need to buy vowels there.
It's so stupid that the ghost has very obvious artificial fingernails and the camera even lingers on them for 30 seconds straight in the first episode. Needs a manicure though. Some of the Korean Yuri mini-dramas on YT are too funny, just like the ones in which they go to bed with makeup on their faces as if they're on their way to go clubbing.
I liked the story, but this was like a manga adaption they forgot to re-write to fit real humans. Extremely silly, a lot of sound and visual effects plus the acting to make it overly cutesy. It felt like everytime the two main characters just glanced at each other they used slow-motion, which got pretty annoying after a while, the same with the old "oops, I fell on your mouth" trope they over used. It's also probably the most Thai pop music I can endure in a single series, especially if they make it come across like a parody of the music business, like they did here. I'm usually not a friend of those whiplash storylines, but in this case it saved the series so it could get some romance and actual story across because until that point it was more or less just an attempt to give everyone Diabetes. In conclusion: Overall pretty ok, but if you make it through the first five episodes without fast forwarding/speeding up at least 20% of an episode, congratulations, you're a better person than I am.
How is Yuya Yagira in this? Is he like a side side-character?
He's my favorite character in the asadora. He's a side character but an important one for the first half of the series. I think if I try to write more it'll be considered spoilers.
Would be one of the better Thriller/Mystery JDramas in a while if it weren't for her spilling her whole life story to the scumbag character in the middle of the story. You can't create a mysterious OP character if that character just reveals her whole background when there's still half of the drama left. That was so unnecessary and kind of killed the character for me.
So... after watching the teaser it's basically the same Ch3 GL slop plot all their other "main couple" series have. Rich main characters who don't have any real world problems get or are together because they love each other, then grow to hate each other or simply seperate because of mommy or daddy issues even though they're full grown adults, then get back together because they miraculously had the epiphany that there was some kind of mistake or misunderstanding. And people still go "AAAHHH NEW LINGORM ITLL BE A MASTERPIECE!!!". Give me a break and please hold the industry to higher standards.
Well, the series was better than I anticipated after three episodes, but it was still not very good. The fact that there's the same actors/actresses playing the same characters in every (former) Idolfactory series was kind of annoying aswell. But you'll probably like it if you like funny/quirky storylines and don't have a problem when one main character gets engaged to a random person without telling their actual partner and then gets pissed off for 10 years because the partner broke up with them. The main couple was pretty annoying overall outside of the comedy, but not as bad as in their first series. The worst was that May's character always got murderously jealous without any reason and then they either didn't talk at all for hours or days or the conversation went like Fay's character needs 2 minutes to almost get a sentence out while May's interrupts her 5 times in that time and then nothing is said at all in the end and Fay's got blamed from everyone. But I like funny and quirky series so it wasn't all bad, even though the engagement part and the constant begging for forgiveness even though she did nothing wrong really got on my nerves after a while.
As an afterthought: Why was the only supposedly Japanese character in the series portrayed like a lesbian kabakura hostess? Speaking as someone who's pretty deep into Japanese culture and society, she was pretty much cringe stereotype personified.
I read "Workplace Politics" in a hospital/police/any other public instution drama and I immediately ignore it usually. But I like Matsumoto Wakana, so... anyone that can tell me if this is as stupid as most other hospital dramas in which they rather try to politic their way into money and power while completely ignoring doctors trying to save patients' lifes?
People need to have higher standards when rating a series and not just look at the actors/actresses and production value and go "this is a masterpiece!". Denied Love wasn't the worst, but it certainly wasn't the best either. Sure, the actresses had chemistry, their acting was quite good for the most part and it was well shot, but there was 0 realism in their 10+ min per episode romantic scenes, sometimes it seemed like they were reading the script rather than communicating like real people and it was another one of those "every person in a GL has to be super rich" dramas. Those three points were even more amplified in the last 2 episodes. It seemed like they ran out of story in ep9 and instead rather shot Rin drinking and crying to herself somewhere for 30 minutes. And the awkward pauses when they were talking to each other were way worse in the last episode, sometimes it was like they waited for someone to hold up a cue card with their dialogue. The plot holes in that episode were also nothing to scoff at and it was pretty strange that they wore a normal Dress and Shirt when they went swimming in a private pool. But I'm a fan of the "cheeky person tries to soften her love interest's heart" storyline and I thought the comedy that came with that was well done. Hope these two get a better adapted story for their next drama, there's definitely potential there.
This should've definitely ended up as an anime. Then it would at least be trashy-fun. With real actors and actresses it's just cringe. The dude is cringe, the girl is cringe and the story is pretty cringe. But the one(s) with the most screen time were "Sabae's" boobs anyways, which in and of itself is super cringe.
Was the script writer or whoever came up with this drunk while writing it?I mean I get that it talks about some…
Unfortunately for the, as you correctly put it, "non-existent Korean Yuri industry" to step up their game it'll take years. South Korea is still one of the most unfriendly societies when it comes to LGBT (at least officially, don't know about the people on the streets), so you won't get any dramas backed by sponsors that are rich enough to pump money into a Yuri project any time soon. My reasoning why I think so is Japan. For them it took about 4 to 5 years after the first BL dramas aired on mainstream TV for stations to adapt a drama centered around a Yuri romance. Right now the ratio is about 30:1 I'd guess when it comes to BL romances aired on TV vs Yuri. There's about 2 to 3 dramas with lesbian relationship representation as any kind of couple (I count it even if they only have 2 scenes or so together at a restaurant) per year vs. about 6 to 8 (just a guess from what I read on new dramas) about a BL couple as center of the story. I'm not really familiar with KDramas, so I don't know if there was ever a BL that aired on mainstream TV... but you get the picture. I think it'll take even longer in Korea for Yuri to "catch up" with BL, or to even take the first steps, because that society is even more patriarchial than Japan.
Seconded. You know it's bad when Friendly Rivalry has a kiss and romantic tension and this doesn't. It feels like…
Well, that's what usually happens if you compare two completely different dramas. One has plot points in it the other doesn't. It would be pretty boring if every drama would be the same. You can't go into a Japanese Yuri that's mostly comedic slice of life and about young adults thinking this'll be a full out romance. That's not how Japanese society or their "wider entertainment" industry (to include manga and literature) works. For a lot of older and more conservatice Japanese people "yuri" is still considered "a phase until the woman meets the right guy". And those people are usually who greenlight new projects for manga or tv. That's also why it's not really frowned upon, but rather "innocentified" (sorry, needed to quickly invent a new word) to no end in a lot of cases. If you want something more mature, with more romance, watch either Otona ni Natte mo or Call Me By No Name. Or read the manga of Yagate Kimi ni Naru, it's the best Yuri/GL/Lesbian story about young adults/high schoolers ever written in my opinion (don't watch the anime, it's only half the story).
Eh, what? After reading the reviews I'm seriously confused. Did I miss something? Am I just not made out for this kind of drama? Did I watch the wrong series? Maybe it just reminded me too much of my most hated genre, 90s/00s Shoujo Manga? Where the main couple is all too often a bitter grouch or totally over confident pretty boy paired up with a little naive mouse that loves the dude without reason, can't speak or stand up herself and always begs for forgiveness even though she doesn't know what she did wrong (hint: she did nothing wrong and he's just a scumbag, see "Good Morning Call" or "Itazura na Kiss" for example).
I liked the first 6 episodes, they were really fun and light-hearted. Then it took a sharp turn into "if only they spoke the same language for roughly 15 minutes the series would be over by now" territory until Episode 11. And then it took another turn without any explanation and suddenly turned into an action-thriller? I mean, the acting was fine, their chemistry was pretty good and the second couple was also pretty cute, but I really don't think this is a good series.
Two things you can be sure of when you watch a Channel 3 GL: everybody's rich and the women all wear high heels all the time, even if they stand in a kitchen for multiple hours a day. Did I miss something in Lin's backstory? Her mom talks about how much they struggled growing up all the time but they still live in a huge house that would probably cost a million dollars in an average small city in the US or western Europe. Why not let them all live in modest homes for a change? Then the characters would at least have some kind of illusion of realism for me. To the series: It kind of had a "drama of the week" format feeling to me. Like all those detective series from Japan for example. One case every episode that gets solved in the same or halfway through the next and then on to the next case. The naivety of Lin and constant jealousy from Jane didn't really help. At least it was better than both TSOU and Only You, but that was mainly because of the two actresses.
A lot of half-baked plot lines. Some ideas were abandoned half-way through or even right away before they could form. "Jane" often behaved like a grade schooler who needed to be fed how society and sexuality works. The acting was pretty awkward, especially at the beginning of the series, but the more they knew each other as characters the better it got in my opinion. The directing and camera work was also pretty shaky. All those strangely timed closeups when more than two people have a conversation completely threw me off at times, especially when the camera cut to people who weren't even speaking and they looked like they aren't supposed to be on screen right now. It's a "switch your brain off" comedy with some pretty funny scenes, not more, not less. Which is absolutely not a bad thing in Thai GL, with all their "life or death" and "getting controlled by other people or their own demons" scenarios. Also, I don't know how (university) students in Thailand talk... but the americanization of the subtitles on WeTV was absolutely horrifying. Like "slay" and "throw shade" etc, almost as bad as Netflix subs for Japanese media. I was actually just waiting for a "you're cooked, bro" or something. Please just translate accurately, there's no need for current "US slang terms" in subtitles.
Finally! I thought I was going crazy 🫠 This Serie is stupid as hell and everybody seems to love it so much.…
To be completely honest, I didn't even really notice the crying because there were too many inconsistencies and bad writing in every episode that distracted me from what was actually going on. I also probably skipped a good deal of it because, I guess, that happened in a lot of scenes that didn't make any sense for me, like when her father literally imprisoned her. I'm not a fan, to say it lightly, of those two either way... They get way too much PR for the actual quality of the series (plural, I gave TSOU a 5/10 or something) they act in and the only chemistry they have together, in my honest opinion, is on a red carpet as each other's accessory. From what I read so far, their 3rd series will be the exact same as the first two, a lot of melodrama, crying and parent problems, so I'll probably skip that one completely.
The drama wasn't much better, as is the case with all of Ferin's dramas on the H'our channel. The two main characters in those always look and come across like if one was in their late 20s and the other was the college student little sister of one of her friends. Bad production, pretty bad acting, no chemistry and nonsensical story. Dropped after 3 eps. And I didn't even want to watch any of their dramas anymore... I can't help myself to give them more chances, I guess.
I hope Thai GL will, sooner rather than later, get away from this "we just need to let the main characters jump through as many hoops as possible in the little time we have" mentality. I pretty much stopped caring about their abundancy of problems in Ep 5 or 6 or so, when I could no longer ignore that most of them existed just to create drama, not because they contributed in any way to furthering the story or their relationship with each other. I had a lot of issues with Affair aswell, but that drama at least had a way more solid way of telling their story and depicting their relationship. And most of all, its story had a premise that made sense. LMSY is one of my favorite GL pairings and all the other actors/actresses were solid aswell, but not even that could save this drama for me.
Extremely silly, a lot of sound and visual effects plus the acting to make it overly cutesy. It felt like everytime the two main characters just glanced at each other they used slow-motion, which got pretty annoying after a while, the same with the old "oops, I fell on your mouth" trope they over used. It's also probably the most Thai pop music I can endure in a single series, especially if they make it come across like a parody of the music business, like they did here.
I'm usually not a friend of those whiplash storylines, but in this case it saved the series so it could get some romance and actual story across because until that point it was more or less just an attempt to give everyone Diabetes. In conclusion: Overall pretty ok, but if you make it through the first five episodes without fast forwarding/speeding up at least 20% of an episode, congratulations, you're a better person than I am.
The main couple was pretty annoying overall outside of the comedy, but not as bad as in their first series. The worst was that May's character always got murderously jealous without any reason and then they either didn't talk at all for hours or days or the conversation went like Fay's character needs 2 minutes to almost get a sentence out while May's interrupts her 5 times in that time and then nothing is said at all in the end and Fay's got blamed from everyone.
But I like funny and quirky series so it wasn't all bad, even though the engagement part and the constant begging for forgiveness even though she did nothing wrong really got on my nerves after a while.
As an afterthought: Why was the only supposedly Japanese character in the series portrayed like a lesbian kabakura hostess? Speaking as someone who's pretty deep into Japanese culture and society, she was pretty much cringe stereotype personified.
Denied Love wasn't the worst, but it certainly wasn't the best either. Sure, the actresses had chemistry, their acting was quite good for the most part and it was well shot, but there was 0 realism in their 10+ min per episode romantic scenes, sometimes it seemed like they were reading the script rather than communicating like real people and it was another one of those "every person in a GL has to be super rich" dramas. Those three points were even more amplified in the last 2 episodes. It seemed like they ran out of story in ep9 and instead rather shot Rin drinking and crying to herself somewhere for 30 minutes. And the awkward pauses when they were talking to each other were way worse in the last episode, sometimes it was like they waited for someone to hold up a cue card with their dialogue. The plot holes in that episode were also nothing to scoff at and it was pretty strange that they wore a normal Dress and Shirt when they went swimming in a private pool. But I'm a fan of the "cheeky person tries to soften her love interest's heart" storyline and I thought the comedy that came with that was well done. Hope these two get a better adapted story for their next drama, there's definitely potential there.
My reasoning why I think so is Japan. For them it took about 4 to 5 years after the first BL dramas aired on mainstream TV for stations to adapt a drama centered around a Yuri romance. Right now the ratio is about 30:1 I'd guess when it comes to BL romances aired on TV vs Yuri. There's about 2 to 3 dramas with lesbian relationship representation as any kind of couple (I count it even if they only have 2 scenes or so together at a restaurant) per year vs. about 6 to 8 (just a guess from what I read on new dramas) about a BL couple as center of the story.
I'm not really familiar with KDramas, so I don't know if there was ever a BL that aired on mainstream TV... but you get the picture. I think it'll take even longer in Korea for Yuri to "catch up" with BL, or to even take the first steps, because that society is even more patriarchial than Japan.
You can't go into a Japanese Yuri that's mostly comedic slice of life and about young adults thinking this'll be a full out romance. That's not how Japanese society or their "wider entertainment" industry (to include manga and literature) works. For a lot of older and more conservatice Japanese people "yuri" is still considered "a phase until the woman meets the right guy". And those people are usually who greenlight new projects for manga or tv. That's also why it's not really frowned upon, but rather "innocentified" (sorry, needed to quickly invent a new word) to no end in a lot of cases.
If you want something more mature, with more romance, watch either Otona ni Natte mo or Call Me By No Name. Or read the manga of Yagate Kimi ni Naru, it's the best Yuri/GL/Lesbian story about young adults/high schoolers ever written in my opinion (don't watch the anime, it's only half the story).
I liked the first 6 episodes, they were really fun and light-hearted. Then it took a sharp turn into "if only they spoke the same language for roughly 15 minutes the series would be over by now" territory until Episode 11. And then it took another turn without any explanation and suddenly turned into an action-thriller? I mean, the acting was fine, their chemistry was pretty good and the second couple was also pretty cute, but I really don't think this is a good series.
Did I miss something in Lin's backstory? Her mom talks about how much they struggled growing up all the time but they still live in a huge house that would probably cost a million dollars in an average small city in the US or western Europe. Why not let them all live in modest homes for a change? Then the characters would at least have some kind of illusion of realism for me.
To the series: It kind of had a "drama of the week" format feeling to me. Like all those detective series from Japan for example. One case every episode that gets solved in the same or halfway through the next and then on to the next case. The naivety of Lin and constant jealousy from Jane didn't really help. At least it was better than both TSOU and Only You, but that was mainly because of the two actresses.
It's a "switch your brain off" comedy with some pretty funny scenes, not more, not less. Which is absolutely not a bad thing in Thai GL, with all their "life or death" and "getting controlled by other people or their own demons" scenarios.
Also, I don't know how (university) students in Thailand talk... but the americanization of the subtitles on WeTV was absolutely horrifying. Like "slay" and "throw shade" etc, almost as bad as Netflix subs for Japanese media. I was actually just waiting for a "you're cooked, bro" or something. Please just translate accurately, there's no need for current "US slang terms" in subtitles.
I'm not a fan, to say it lightly, of those two either way... They get way too much PR for the actual quality of the series (plural, I gave TSOU a 5/10 or something) they act in and the only chemistry they have together, in my honest opinion, is on a red carpet as each other's accessory. From what I read so far, their 3rd series will be the exact same as the first two, a lot of melodrama, crying and parent problems, so I'll probably skip that one completely.