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I know there are many types of love. I literally just said that love is subjective....
Love doesn't necessarily make you crazy and unreasonable, and if it does chances are it's not healthy and the people involved needs help, like the leads in this series.
You say you addressed what is healthy and unhealthy and I guess going by that I understand that for you love is always unhealthy since it makes people "crazy and unreasonable".
I already answered to you in another comment about being an adult. Clearly they're not mature and reasonable. Doesn't mean either that other adults might actually be mature and reasonable. Individuals can be many things, not just one thing or another simple because of age.

No, being an adult doesn't automatically make you experienced and mature. But it's true that with more age you certainly have lived more experiences and in certain aspects you can know more things, but doesn't mean you're experienced in everything.
It has to do more with what you learn, your environment and the specific experiences that you had as well as your outlook on life. So it is very relative and for that reason I wouldn't either automatically asume that someone that is older is not experienced and mature. Just each individual will be different, that's all.
Whatever the age, the question is if they're trying to find their way or if they seek help to find their way, many do not. So can we say they're lost and trying when they don't try? Can we say the main leads here, for example, are trying to find their way? I would say they're not. If they're not trying to find their way then what I'm seeing is presented as "is" rather than a journey to finding a path that makes them find their own voices and being comfortable in themselves, an internal peace and a healthy love.
Love can be reasonable and sane and it doesn't make everyone insane at all.
I wouldn't say that feelings and emotions are illogical or irrational or that even can't be the result of deep analysis. We need to stop assuming that being emotional, having feelings is an antonym of analysis, logical or rational thought.
In fact, accepting that you feel, that you have emotions and let you feel those emotions is a very rational, logical thought to me as a human being.

There simply isn't something as objective "perfection". Something being perfect is going to depend on the individual. Something that is perfect to me might not be to you, and that's completely fine. So I can't agree with you about there not being perfect characters for example. There are perfect characters to me that with their flaws and mistakes they are perfect to my eyes because they convey something that I regard as good as it can be. So the key if anything is finding your own perfection rather than looking for a standard perfection that society might have advertised to you as the culmination of humanity. So love can be about perfect characters, because you're not less perfect for having flaws, and you'll find someone that will see that perfection. But also without romanticising toxic behaviour as a flaw that needs to be accepted, whatever that toxic behaviour might look like, those are not flaws, they're problems.

It is true in many ways that people tend to give adults too much credit. It's true that most adults haven't found their way and many won't ever. That being said, romantic relationships, especially if started at a certain age like in this case, don't tend to look like this, and rarely you would find someone that has been lied to at this level forgive the other person and try to still be with them.

Gyung Joon and Ri Yin have flaws and problems that they need to tackle, and certainly could be a reason for them to break up in the future, but couples like that tend to work for a while, even many years as One Ajhussi says. They'll have their ups and downs and one will promise to the other that they will change and so on. This is just very typical. In fact I would say of the relationships in the series theirs is the most realistic one so far.
Lack of communication is very common in relationships and to a certain level it's not even an impediment for the relationship to "work", but to a certain extent, you can easily cross the line when portraying these kind of things and then it just becomes unrealistic, like the main leads here. It's ok for a drama, but not one advertised as a realistic portrayal of people in their late 20s/early 30s.
I do agree with you Noy that I would also like more dramas where the individuals decide to heal on their own. I would also like to see growth, seek help as well if needed, and overall that if they're going to present an unhealthy relationship they make very clear it's not healthy.

Love is obviously subjective. What you describe as love is not something I I regard as love personally. To me what you say it's just attraction or a fling as you said yourself. Many times attraction is not regarded as strong, but it can totally be the reason for people to lose their minds and fall into unhealthy habits.
I wouldn't say Jaewon is in love again, he is still attracted to her and the memories he had with her, he's clinging to the idea of what she was and he wants to believe that she is. That attraction is what is keeping him attached and interested (plus his stubborness and everything ponnu said) what makes it a pretty toxic relationship. He's giving her unwanted attention, even if deep down she wanted it her words still need to mean something. If she actually means the opposite of what she says then she has a problem in communicating in a healthy way what she wants (she clearly has this problem). By people giving her what she wants by acting the opposite of what she says they're only feeding into that unhealthy habit of hers.

I am also hoping they don't end up together. That's my happy ending for this series.
They have such toxic dynamics and a massive lack of communication. That's not going to be solved in one night. If they do take the path of Jaewon "healing" her it's going to be terrible, he should start by helping himself first before he goes around trying to fix anyone else.

Exactly, I feel the same way. I think if this drama ended up with them two not together it would be different, teach something and show a healthier take on how not to end a series when the leads are not good for each other (because they're not even good to themselves). I feel that to some extent the level of disappointment I feel with this series so far is that I'm expecting the "happy" ending and that's going to be bad. I'm actually going to be so much more satisfied if it ended like it should, and that hope is what keeps me from dropping it (plus being a completionist).
I also have the same feeling as you when it comes to GJ and RY and that's going to be a shame because as you say if they talk things through I think it could work out.

I can understand how the FL ended up where she did, I can empathise with her journey that lead her to the coast wanting to start a new life. I can't justify anything she did to ML (or her friends) after that though and anything they have shown or will show is not going to change my opinion. I think it's all right to show these kind of relationships but I'll only enjoy them if there is some growth or it's trying to tell me something more than just "these things happen", I know they do.
I'm really hoping they don't end up together.

I'm of the same opinion than you, and I'm really hoping they don't end up together. They need to grow as individuals separately.

I liked this series at the beginning, it was a fresh concept and the characters seemed insteresting, but now it's just frustrating and annoying to watch (and repetitive... I don't need to see the flashbacks again...). At this point I'm only watching to see if they show something more of the side characters and to see if there is some well needed growth (although taking into account how it's going so far I doubt it/I would be surprised). Such a shame :/