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So much love and support, seen her growing up on screen she is a really fine actress and has a one in a billion type beauty.

So many plot holes and mistakes could not be saved simply by the masterful acting.
Song Ho Yeon was the most understandable, tragic character. He just wanted justice for his mom and his father utterly failed at getting his wife justice. His plan was smart and it seems like he was in such pain and depression that he expected and did not fear death at all.

The judge father!! He acts well but he made bad decision after bad decision. He really didn't think that how it could even be a coincidence? He really never tried to get justice for his wife? He had gone through so many criminal cases, he didn't think to get rid of the evidence on his own? His son had a good reason to despise his image, he fell to the dark side so quickly and did worse after worse thing. It seemed like it was all to save his son but if that were the simple case, why not send him abroad? Like it was thrown in our face that The chairman sent his evil rapist murdering son abroad to keep him from getting in trouble, so why didn't the judge think of that?

The chairman!! I see some people trying to empathize with him, like what the eff? He covered up or was directly involved in multiple murders, rape, horrific murder through burning of a grandmother and her five year old grandaughter, and the list goes on and on and on. His whole family were just criminals except for the disabled Eun, like his first wife was probably murdered by him or his second wife. He had unlimited power on his side and he still failed because he kept protecting rather than stopping his son, wife, and himself from doing more evil.

I only felt bad for Eun and Song Ho Yeon. Everyone else, including the prosecutor claimed to be doing the right or necessary thing but added fuel to the fire.

I really hope that Nara can have a positive relationship or romance, the last few dramas have been utterly harrowing to watch her get cheated on and harmed. Park Hae Jin was good in The Killing Vote too, hope they have some chemistry.

In this drama she really shows her range as I have seen has as cute, lovely, beautiful, adorable, slightly mischievous and sassy but not to these depths of anger, betrayal, revenge and madness. She really is one of a kind beauty and actress. So much love and hope she has mental health support as this type of role can really affect a person. For example, Heath Ledger was so terribly impacted by the research and role he played as Joker.

From the posts it was clear that Lee Hye Ri thought they were still dating while he was dating others and so that is understandable from her perspective. What an ugly guy, both her and Han So Hee can do better.

Please report gstafford for expressing some truly despicable thoughts including justifying sex with minors and pedophilia as well as exploitation of minors.

As for Kim So Hyun, he deserves the worst and will get it. I hope someone can have a shaman do a 정당성 justice or karma ritual that will utterly destroy him from the inside out. Rotten on the inside should be seen as rotten on the outside. Maybe some of us can get together and fund one together in Korea on our next visit or through family.

KUDOS to Won Bin for being such an upstanding guy who attended Kim Sae Ron's funeral and wept for her. PEACE AND LOVE for Kim Sae Ron and Sulli and who knows countless others harmed by trash evil people.

He behaved in an awful manner to two young women and showed a complete lack of character so let him rot.

Oh thanks for letting me know, the whole time I was like, "What the hell kind of nick name is that?"

Watching this with no previous knowledge and it has been great fun

Oh, I agree that Jun Seo is wrong for her. It's too complicated. His mother tried to drown her or send her to orphanage or kick her out of the house because she figured out the Jun Seo was not the biological heir. Ah Jin was made to suffer for Jun Seo's success. I meant the other guy Kim Jae Oh that always trusts her. The only one she harmed was Mr. Choi and he forgave her, the rest all deserved it because they wouldn't let her breathe.

I agree I sometimes hate this plot because its such a cliche fantasy (and at least in True Beauty they have more nuance where she uses makeup and styling) and so unrealistic but also get why some might like it. I do hate that he ML calls her Mrs Piggy over and over again, its quite cruel and insulting. He has some okay moments as a himbo but overally they just are not a match in terms of even like enjoying spending time together on a date or having things in common. I did like the other actors particularly Blue and Pink and Brown and Goth Girl but they didn't get enough time. I also really like the friends and thought that was a potential realistic exploration of female friendships.

Wookie is underused here (more time with him Noh Young Sik and Eun Bi would have been better to show how they use their different skills to help him). Instead, too much time given to the villains and now the main villain (who is laughable, like a midget with bad hair who can do anything while Wookie is getting beat up constantly) is controlling him to try to get his own dirty work done.

Also to note a disturbing trend in Korean dramas beyond the cartoon villain, is that they show the villain is somehow of "low birth." I keep seeing this and feel like it reeks of some "pure bloods" supremacy and feels disgusting.

I know she is flawed but I hope that she can win against this creepy CEO, chaebol. It is clear he is a Bluebeard type - he traps beautiful women and then breaks them down. She will go into that secret room. I just want her to have a nice life by herself and someone who loves her truly like Kim Jae Oh, or who can be true family to her like grandma. Even Mr. Choi, her and Kim Jae Oh and a halmoni or ahjumma so she can heal and not feel like life is always a battle and she needs to be rescued or rescue herself.

I think we are meant to hate her. But now we also understand why Ah Jin's relationship with Jun Seo is so complex. Jun Seo's mother tried to drown Ah Jin because she figured out that Jun Seo was no the biological heir. The mother later kicked her out and treated her so awfully just to protect him and her own self. Ah Jin and Jun Seo can't be end game, it's too awful between them.

Actually, I agree. There is too much screen time to both the main villain and the secondary villain who keeps beating up women which is just unnecessary to show such violence. I can't wait to see them die and suffer but they have diffused Wookie's role a bit and I don't like that. Also lots of unrealistic things and just uneven. Love Noh YongSik character.

Criminally overrated. This is one of the most hyped dramas on various forums for people who like thrillers\suspense\mystery genre. After watching the first few episodes, I told myself, "It's probably like 10 years old so that's what explains the messiness and over the top coincidence and obviousness. Then I checked MDL and it is from 2021 not 2005 or 2015!!! It is full of cliches, overacting and lack of logic. Dissapointing to say the least.

Various ick points:
- All the characters are one dimensional. They have a job and an alleged interest or hobby but it is meaningless. Magic shows, love of Hitchcock or murder mysteries, taking care of injured pets, being sad, drinking, etc - its there for scenes but not impact for the story .
- Weird "romance" between a high school student an a guy about 8-10 years older. Really reminds me of older Korean dramas that had this kind of predatory nonsense.
- None of the clues or stories behind the murders matter. None of the details make an intricate or meaningful anything.
- It is a pro-eugenics drama. Yes, eugenics the thing that the Nazi's used to commit genocide, that the Americans used to sterilize disabled people, queers, indigenous peoples and Black people. It is really apalling.

She is so beautiful, all the best to her!

A great easy to watch historical, revenge, mystery historical drama with the characters solving case after case. This kind of drama that has a hundred copies now. From five years ago it had many of the tropes but handled them so well (as compared to todays dramas) and never got stuck too much.

Zhang Linghe is great but his hair is probably the awfulest I've seen. Sabrina Chen is amazing and has that beautiful androgynous look.

Her original manipulation? She was a kid who entered a home where the step mom had already decided to take some videos and photos of her for profit and then send her to an orphanage. When she tried to take some control, the stepmom tried to drown her. She had to throw herself out of the window to keep her father from selling her into god knows what horrors (and he intended to sell her as a bar girl, prostitute, slave). So it is a no win situation but she's not the main or only villain here. At least thus far she hasn't harmed a child unlike everyone around her who harmed her repeatedly.

This drama has me on edge. I sincerely think that the first time she was honest about what she thinks and feels is with Jun Seo's mom and grandma (in episode 8) but now she is going to turn off all emotions completely and expect the worst and be the worst. I so want her to be redeemed and think life and people aren't that horrible but all the evidence seems to be against that so far for her.