until that ending, i was thinking of rating this 3 stars

well this was "interesting" for lack of a better word, disappointing is a more fitting word & given the cast we got here, will say that again - idk what the writer's/director were thinking - but this was a mess at parts & at others, just illogical b.s.
used to seeing incompetent cops that can't find their head with their own 2 hands, let alone shoot a gun when needed. but can/will lookover most of the glitches - even the plotholes until that whack end - like seriously?!?

Alpha the invincible machine was taken out, in that insiginificant way? why?!? why he the only test subject to get his eyes wired shut?!? how it go from japanese guys doing human experiments, to the test subject runing the show?!? just to make a antiaging drug? and if that wasn't enough, we got that rotten cherry on top (finding out Lee Do Il's son survived) but he being kept locked-up - why? why that CEO keeping the successful experiments confined, to what end?!? and as Lee Do Il doesn't know this fact, why we got this reveal?!? so "they" can make a part 2 - to this mess?!? (ノへ￣、) plz...

pity, this had potential. it was ridiculous with the water-slide of blood used in every kill, let alone the cruelty at how each kill was implemented - overkill IMHO - just revolting (get it, they were bad-guy, still just nauseating). or those exaggerated foot falls of Alpha ¯\_(ツ)_/¯(like plz) so much could've/should've been cut short, so we get more of a story to the main plot. ironically or not the only one i rooted for (even before he came on scene) was Alpha. the rest were meeh (also the one i wanted dead from the start was the nurse (¬‿¬) OMG she got under my skin, i applauded her kill).
anyway like i wrote above, this plot needed to be rewritten, with a clear end & some answers about the main charecter's/plot, that would be appreciated (let alone make this a good movie), as is - it was fine for a 1 off. but still a bummer

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enjoyed this, won't say it was perfect. but it was fun & don't get anyone trying to compare this to Bullet Train, John Wick, Hitman's Bodyguard, Kingsman etc... cause this wasn't trying to be those movies.

what i really loved here was the personal relationships between the character's. even though this tagged action, everyone (who's criticizing this) seemed to forget this also a drama. i loved those aspects of this movie. the mother daughter dynamic was spot on, great acting by all, but Jeon Do Yeon is really talented, have seen her in quite a few movies, so versatile. also loved the new young cast, the intern & the daughter - their story was also very relatable n engaging (in the intern case even less of a story and yet very endearing character IMHO).

i aint into action movies, so don't care for the fight choreography, but even i noticed that it wasn't that mind-blowing (not that there weren't entertaining fight scenes) but on a whole, it was nothing out of the ordinary. and here i think the trailer did a disservice to the movie, selling it as the actions movies i mentioned above.

also there's NO incest to speak off, yeah Min Hee crazy n very possessive of her brother (& lacking a back story, got no way to back my thoughts) but from my POV, Min Kyu didn't treat his sister as anything by a needy, spoilt child - he suffered n indulged her, didn't lust after her! the one he truly loved was Gil Bok Soon. from the 1st moment they met, he was hooked, that's why he did everything he did - for her, until the end in-spite of her going against his instruction's (what she did to his sister) he still didn't want to kill her (basically letting her win).
it wasn't perfect & i can be nitpicky, find potholes but on a whole this was a fun watch. i would rewatch this just for the fun off it anytime...

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was sure the reason for the negative comments, that this wasn't action packed. sadly this turned out to be a waste of time, as the plot (the summation) is whack. i don't think this is boring, but it is a frustrating watch.
this a drama more then an action flick. n reading the description u get the main picture/plot. But Doo Hyeon isn't an innocent man, he might not have murdered his n Yeong Min's boss. but he got blood on his hands. so whatever the reason he chose to keep quite - he not innocent.
like IMHO Yeong Min isn't that much of a bad-guy (not any worse then Doo Hyeon) he a gangster that wants to be boss, of course he gonna go around killing, robbing etc..(whatever gangster's do). the fact he got a spoilt brat isn't shocking either, when this movie starts we see him rushing baby Eun Joo to the emergence room cause of heart problems. that also explains his following the Big-bosses orders to kill "the Goblin's master" or his then murdering the Big-boss (he desperate, n having a kid with heart problems costs money). that make him extra bad?!? same with pampering the sick child n turning her into a bully (u could blame him), but it's also very understandable.

on the other hand, i didn't get Ji Yeong (Doo Hyeon wife/ex) pretty sure he didn't hide the fact he a gangster, so why the act after she had Ye Na?!? why throw a tantrum n make him feel like sh*t. as if leaving the mob is so easy, no logic. (btw her leaving after he got convicted was logical, not cause of the set-up, but cause of how murder's families r treated in Asian countries).

this was fine until that end, liked the irony of fate pushing these 2 guys at each other, even when they chose different paths. yeah it wasn't all smooth sailing n could find plothole's throughout, but on a whole i was totally enjoying how this was unfolding, until that end where Doo Hyeon turned moronic; him asking Yeong Min if he did anything to his daughter (after he got ahold of Eun Joo), and i'm like ￣へ￣he already has endangered ur daughter, she's just out of freakin brain surgery. she in a coma and was moved by thugs ( ˘︹˘ ) her chances of waking up, went down - no?!? n u still wondering if "anything was done to her"?!? like make it make sense¯\(°_o)/¯Aish (ノω<。)ノ
then his not stabbing Yeong Min at the end, but begging to know where his daughter was. the frustration (╬▔皿▔)╯ really wanted Doo Hyeon death at that point (as he knew she was in that location). that whole scene was stoopid n it didn't get any better. the cherry on top, showing the scene of Doo Hyeon helping an injured Yeong Min from the start of the movie. what the frack was that meant to symbolize? don't care, as it really just annoyed me ＞﹏＜ n was really looking forward to seeing Jo Dong Hyuk, so not recommended✌

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ugh frustrating ending!!!

from the word go Hyehin seemed suspect to me. everything was too convenient. her first reprimanding Minzy cause her skirt was too short, then letting her off with a smile. Minzy then finding that weird pic of herself changing in the locker-room among they books. Hyehin informing her, that she put it there and knows who the culprit was... everything just tooo "well timed," one thing falling into a slot after the other. like them then watching Mr. Lee with his polaroid camera - it "smelt" to high heaven -

but u don't get all the answers at once - u notice slowly that Minzy might be infatuated with Hyehin. that's why she's going along with her - blindly. kept wondering why Hyehin target her - cause there a ton of other girls in that class. but it's cause she knows Minzy smitten - easier to manipulate. and that's what all this boils down too. Hyehin using Minzy to get what she wants - back with Mr. Lee? or to start something idk (unsure off that) but for sure, she as smitten with him as Minzy is with her.

the ending is Minzy realizing, she has been used. Hyehin used her from the start to get at / back with Mr. Lee and he folded (either taking her back - or considering/accepting her offer). seeing them together and then to get called back and reprimanded cause of lying. cause Hyehin admitted "they made it all up" - does she blow the whole thing exposing Mr. Lee having affairs with students and why Hyehin suddenly found a "conscience " or what....
but considering her holding the evidence in her hands, there zero options then for the truth to come out - so guess this Not an open ending - and yet frustrating cause u wanna see it through.

interesting movie - love might be the word of the day, but is that the motivation behind every character's actions? in a distorted sort of way, i guess u can say that the motivation behind their actions was love - not the healthy, wholesome kind. and Mr. Lee as good looking as he is, is just a predator that shouldn't be allowed to teach children - no matter their age.

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this was bitter sweet - really really wish there was more, cause this was Really good. 1st off the actress playing Hikari is just beautiful - not in the conventional way, cause her looks r totally androgynous, from head to toe and that's what makes her unique - the more i looked at her, the beautifuller she became. heck felt i could look at her for hrs. she did a great job (looks aside).

from the start, the tactlessness of people was disturbing, considering how aware we all r of the different/diverse people existing on this planet. and the fact that, cause someone is not a carbon-copy of u, doesn't make them "less" or abnormal. so an innocent trivial request to use the restroom, shouldn't make people uneasy and yet it does. always reminding her that she isn't seen as "normal". and as this is the start, the tone is set and thus i goes from one moronic encounter to the next. where curiosity get's the better of a customer asking if she really is a man "...cause she got big hands." (like seriously). but Hikari keeps rising above. so little wonder the only place she really is comfortable in her own skin, is around other trans women and "their" pub.

as the plot is Hikari reuniting with old classmate Takashi an unrequited love from high school. business takes her to her hometown and as she feels ready to face him and "come out". she decides to agree to a meet-up, ironically the one to get the surprise is Hikari. as Takashi might have made the date, but the moron invites the whole class and u can only guess at how tactless that group of moron's was (considering it was an all boy's school). and again Hikari sufferers in silence, the tactless jokes and rude remarks, always smiling and ignoring - rising above...

so i needed a 'happily ever after' for Hikari. but i guess her walking tall, not letting small minded moron's get to her, is a positive end - loved this (yet need more) for sure a rewatch.

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as the first part ended this started - not that it had any continuity/connection - it just started in the middle of a scene or so it felt. Nana being tied, this time to a chair in an unoccupied classroom. what bothered me the most, was the fact that the actress playing the FL seemed to be different - and spent a while wondering did she just change in a yr, enough that she seemed like a different person?!? as there's no info about the actress playing Nana in this or the previous cast& credits info on this site -
idk

this movie is more or less along the same lines as the prequel - Nana needs "breathers" that Kaoru provides. Kaoru's reactions make this hilarious - as he is also battling his own feelings towards Nana, feeling's - he feels will take away his "power" and make Nana reject him, if she notice's them - so he tries to put on an indifferent front, while still making sure he stocked-up on BDSM paraphernalia to satisfy Nana's needs.

this time around i felt more like Nana was too self-centered - it was all about her (as it was in the previous ep) but i guess Kaoru getting a chance to live out his fantasies is something - and yet he always pining for her, almost obsessed with her... and her being stoic and cold - even indifferent towards him, when around her group (heck when her bff was badmouthing him) was making it glaringly clear, that she had the upper hand - and worse she didn't really care about Kaoru, his needs or him as a person -
so this time around it was harder to like her. but the trip to the country side was much needed for them both as she realized she need Kaoru as much as he needed her (about love i'm still on the fence - as i feel to Nana, she felt they both were the same perversion wise) guess that's a type of "happily ever after" as that means it aint the end of them... and maybe Kaoru has a fighting chance.

like i mentioned in the first movie even though this BDSM themed, its for everyone as it's BDSM light (almost No nudity maybe a butt-cheek or two), and it's more about their relationship then pain and degradation - facing each other and the truth. so this as the previous part, was a enjoyable watch and i'm totally vanilla - so give it a chance i was pleasantly surprised (●'◡'●)

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well talk about psychological mind f*ck - this that, on steroids. what can i say other then this infuriating - both Jungo and Hana Very messed-up individual's and u can debate about the why, from now to kingdom come - the fact that they messed-up(!) doesn't change - let alone them committing murder to keep living the way they were living.

sadly there's nothing here incomprehensible - the only bit that bothered me - well other then the blood bath scene, was like a WTF moment, as it didn't seem like their first time, that would be indictive off a loss of innocence or the slaughter of the familial bond or some such... maybe it was prophetic?!? going to show what was to come? the blood lust in them? idk, so back to the start of my sentence and what i wanted to point out - the first scene where they meet - Jungo asks Hana "where her family is" not parents, not identifying them by name, nor her for that matter - so i was sure they not related in the least and he just knowing she had no kin alive, found a good victim to train/adopt... and he did a "great" job - considering how f*cked-up she turned out -

Oshio was a good person, but i didn't get him enabling a man he said "wasn't good enough to have a family", raise a child that had just lost everything?!? and after him finding out, that was too late - him trying to take her out of the situation - like what was the point of running after her?!? the sec he ran after her i knew he wouldn't make it - stupid move, considering her reaction. not that it was justifiable in anyway - that's why the end left me infuriated, cause she out there now moving onto other men messing with them, as she will never be normal. bottom line this one messed-up puppy

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overkill

talk about a bleedin tragedy - its like any sad cliché out there, all tossed into this movie to make it that much more of a tearjerker and astoundingly left me dry eyed - cause this was ludicrous !! overkill is the best way to describe this movie - even though now i'm shocked anyone survived - was sure lightning would strike, taking Eit out - for a finale. not that his ending wasn't sad - he all alone and old too boot, so what he got left to live for(?) vid's of Mehk confessing his love - big whoop
it just felt like "they" were trying to create this grand-tragedy, romeo and juliet equivalent - and it just never met the mark, in-spite of how sad almost every character was.

first off Mehk the killer for hire, suddenly got a morel code cause he gotta kill Eit - really?!? and he cares so much for his sick mother and brother, but he doesn't know what kind of living conditions they existed in? or after the big get away, where Eit succeeds in taking a blacked out Mehk to his hide out? and they on the run, but not hiding or running for that matter - even after the assassin almost gets the better of Mehk - while Eit off phoning that annoying wife of his. and they still hanging around the same place(?) cause the boss gonna send only one dude? well he kinda just sends one, and then gives-up which was weird ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ guess it was more important to show us both lead starring off into space and playing hide and go seek...

which leads me to why Mehk react like that after getting it on with Eit?!? he wasn't drugged or forced, so why wake-up and act like he was raped?!?
the whole hide and seek was also annoying, grown ass men got nothing better to do - plus lets not forget they "wanted" men - but they not got a worry in the world, let alone Mehk not worried about his family that he their only support system - ugh the plot-holes r countless.

donno even if this good as a one off - the plus point hmmm this is the first time i saw a "sponge" bath that was justified - usually u get that annoying, ridiculous scene in ever BL just so one dude can feel up the one he is salivating over - here it made sense considering Mehk was shot and unconscious for what seemed like a while, it was logical that anyone who was taking care of him would do that -
and there were a few funny scenes, even though i doubt they were meant to be funny - like Eit's wife breakin down in tears cause she sees Eit sleeping with a rag-doll - OMO come on that was hilarious and ridiculous. or the more absurd scene where Eit and Mehk make-out in the middle of the street, putting on a show for the brother, mother and wife - aish really couldn't take this movie seriously. it missed the mark - bummer

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first off donno who or what Nu'est r, so just by reading the comments came to know they a K-Pop group. and as didn't know any of the actors involved, didn't know if they newbies or have acted in other "stuff" (well the only one i recognized was Serizawa Tateto as seen him as a side-character in loads of stuff. Kinami Haruka also looks familiar, but for the life off me couldn't pinpoint where have seen her. as in which dramas or movies) - now that, that's off my chest i so didn't accept to enjoy this movie - heck reading some of the comments, though it would either bore or disappoint me. Not the case, this was really good and well acted, if we talking newbies - good job by all!

this the type of movie that's more mellow and snail-paced, dialogue is minimal and u have to give it - the character's time to unfold, and u little by little start to see who they r and what makes them tick. that was the case here, so if ur not into long pauses and reading facial expressions, then u might be bored - cause not much is happening on screen - or so it seems to people who enjoy fast-paced, dialogue packet movies.

loved how even though each individual that seemed like an island at the start, when the story developed u saw how they were all connected to each other - oblivious to each other's connection they still were changed and even evolved through their connections - when they got closer or further apart. its like they were all connected by an invisible string when one "pulled", each had a minor shift in their own lives . it was sweet and magical in a way. the cause and effect shown - how our actions be it a word or a look, effect others around us that we don't even know r connected to us -

for sure a rewatch as this is totally my type of movie - just sit back and watch the movie unfold - everyone takes their time - nothing rushed. clams me idk guess just my cup of tea - find these type of movies very relaxing. plus this one was sweet, funny and heartwarming - so happily recommend.

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this was hilariously bad - like what else could one do if not laugh at the things going on in this movie - the first part wasn't stellar but at least it made some kind of sense - the rich kid got sent off and the poor one had to tough-it-out and bare the brunt of the humiliation, from his family and his soundings - ironic that the same guys that were egging Lu Feng to kiss Xiao Chen, were the same ones shaming Xiao Chen when they found out they were in a relationship - guess its cool being gay as long as its just fun and games - stoopid logic ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

but this was like WTF is going on - for one that brother of Xiao Chen's who was so gay(even before we saw this part of the movie i guessed to that fact in the 1st part) so why he not support his brother and his bf(?), when they got together why he and his bf treat Lu Feng as the bad-guy that wasn't worthy of Xiao Chen - and shouldn't be around him??. considering they in the same boat - shouldn't these morons commiserate? or just cause they weren't outed, so not their problem?!? that's why i kinda got Lu Feng losing it on the pair and going after them, when Xiao Chen ghosted him out, cause of that annoying mother - talk guilt trip - this woman was a master in that crap - everyone should've informed her that Lu Feng's money-bags rich and a boss to boot, pretty sure she would've been all smiles and open arms then... plz

and then from ridiculous to absurd - think the person that wrote this crap was the same person that wrote Addicted - Lu Feng drug's and then basically confine Xiao Chen in his place - raping him on the daily?!????? guess this a new type of romancing and foreplay?!?? like WTAF - who comes up with this sh*t and people loving it - guess stockholm syndrome is the new way to get ur man?!??? which considering Xiao Chen saving Lu Feng is - idk i'm at a loss at the absurdity of this plotline

so the brother walking around scot-free after shooting a person - brother or not he took a freakin gun from a cop and shot someone, who ended up in a come - he not doing time ? guess his bf indeed connected.. and that not enough that ending aish, guess "they" wanna milk this for a part 3 of this travesty? well read enough comments of people rooting for it, so idk what's to say - other then this will never be a rewatch or a recommend. one off was fine but nah this not even mildly good

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every comment i come across keeps referring to Dangerous Liaisons or Les Liaisons dangereuses book by Pierre Choderlos de Laclos, which as been a while since i've seen/read so remember the plot vaguely.

the korean take is interesting, more f*cked-up as they r family not ex-lovers who r bored and a bit narcissistic - who for the fun of it make bets about seducing people. making them family has its yuck factor for me, and both of them were equally messed-up, doing anything for the fun of it. treating others like pawns for their amusement, which given the time period was befitting, as usually rich people didn't have many ways to entertain themselves - so a twisted mind "helped".

didn't by the love story, not between the cousins, neither the young lovers who just exchanged letters, or the widow and Jo Won. that was kind of a hard-sell and left me feeling it was either rushed or lost in translation.
don't find this better, just different, even the sex/nude scenes weren't overly R-rated, yeah it was needed to tell the story, but as opposed to other movies i've seen, it was moderate. not vulgar.

still good, not a rewatch, but interesting (as someone who has seen other adaptations of this movie from other countries, quite good).

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OMO i saw this a while back on the tube and have to say - this is good - This is a really cool concept and I loved the execution! Three different couples performing the same dialogue and scene, seeing them play it out slightly, differently according to the couple involved, was really fun to watch. each was funny and sweet in a different way.

The first were the girls - and there was no aggression there, but more attraction if denial and then intrigue, that made them come together. with that sweet kiss.

The second couple were male and female and i laughed more cause the girl was the aggressor and seeing the guy panic was funny - but it felt short, just cause the kiss was bleeh - brings me back to all the kissing scenes in Kdramas where the FL turns to stone and can't react - cause if u react ur basically "the whore of babylon". so that takes u "out of the enjoyment of the moment" - and was a bit disappointing after the first couple.

The last couple Aish :D maybe its the fujoshi in me, or the let down after the straight couple - but this was so good, funny, cute and yummy (yeah XD i know) but y'all get it - its two guys and they were funny, cute and aggressive verbally - tough-guy act hard to let go off... and their kiss omo made my cheeks hurt, i smiled so hard... and the only kiss that had butterflies going haywire in my stomach... it was short but Very sweet -

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as someone who has "come" after watching Bad Guys the drama series (season 1) this was wack... and dunno if the vid that was uploaded was the prob or what. cause there were scene that just jumped from one to something else and maybe that was also the problem in me dis-liking this.
i guess the movie was made cause the series was such a success, if so why they rewrite so much?!? they completely deleted Lee Jung Moon's character as if he didn't exist. which given as he was one of the favorites (going by all the commenter - me i favored Jung Tae Soo, the Hitman lol ) was a WTH moment. mentioning Jung Tae Soo, he found religion in prison, so saw him for a shot or two, not enough but - it is what it is.

they also changed the original story, revolving around the big bust of the human organ trafficking not the sick, nut-job Prosecutor (i would think that was a way bigger story, but again whatever).

Mi Young also got a mention, and ironically her she was supposedly one of the good-guys that kicked-ass in the drama - total B.S. but i guess if u r already rewriting "history" why not go all out. and as she wasn't a favorite of the viewers, she was injured at the beginning and that was that of her.
instead of her we got vixen Gwak Noh Soon, a.k.a Jessica the annoying. her sexy seductress ass was freaking annoying, so glad when "sh*t hit the fan" she acted like a normal human, without all the femme fatale sh*t - that got old fast.

even Oh Goo Tak, another annoying f*cker from the series, was way toned-down. that's cause he was sick - B.S. lol

the story is what it is, bad-guys killing other bad-guys, the cops unable to do sh*t. so we turn to the notorious 4 to save the day - which they do and then get sent back to prison. not boring but not better then the series, and that's saying something for me, as it wasn't my fav.

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everyone is besotted by Kim Seon Dal, which i get - he is a good looking guy (personally though cute), but Gyun stole my heart, he wasn't just naïve - he was too pure for that period in time, surrounded by bad ruthless guys. only someone with tougher skin would survive. after the initial meeting (the 3 slaves meet) whenever i saw him again, had a gut feeling he was gonna be "sacrificed" so we would cry our eyes out. didn't guess wrong.

btw the letter Kim Seon Dal gave him, misleading him into thinking it was for the tailor, wasn't translated so could only guess what was written, from what followed. which was a shame. but it is what it is. and didn't get Kim Seon Dal logic, yeah Gyun needed to be protected, but sending him off on his own with money, when everyone in the gang knew he was a sweet hearted push-over, who couldn't really defend himself. how that work?!? no logic there.

interesting funny take on a period piece, other then the ML and Gyun liked the King, Hyo Jong (who even though didn't have much screen time, wasn't a pushover puppet King that the advisers used however they wanted). also liked seeing Lee Wan (Jun Suk Ho) the commander of the kings knights , remember him fondly from Strong Woman Do Bong Soon.

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don't get all the hype about this movie

reading some of the comments u would think it was verge-ing on porno, which it isn't - mildly erotic at best. but that is besides the point. this was beyond aggravating - to say the least. like what the hell kind of female teenager will act like an airhead tease around any man, no matter his age?!? what is her damage??? that was the main question on my mind, like appearing at his house in the middle of the night conveniently dripping wet, and asking to spend the night. what?!? why????? then going to another guy's house to get him medicine, cause he's sick - supposedly. but blindly walking in - again WTF... no one teach this stupid girl basic sh*t - a female is taught, so she wont get molested / raped?!? or the message of the day is, all teenage girl want sex cause they're bored??? the whole "Lolita" vibe was vomit inducing...

add to the annoyance is the whole dynamic between the men. like kill me if i understand why someone would write a book and gift it to someone else. you need to be a genius to know this won't be a one-off deal???? especially when the other (younger) guy has no means to support himself, but to now be a writer. or the old dude thought by gifting him one book he would magical get the ability to write?!?

until the middle it was fine, cause u go with the follow of the story and it isn't jarring. didn't think it was weird or unnatural for an old dude to fantasize about a teen, that was prancing around his house in a flirty way, and even if she wasn't being a flirt - men will be men, age doesn't matter and even if he can't get it up, his mind still works fine. u can't arrest or judge a man for fantasizing - that's idiotic. but after the confrontation with the younger dude - everything turned weird. like her showing up at his place, asking him if all writer's take each others stuff. i thought that meant she heard and got that the old dude was the one to write "Eungyo". but nope - got it wrong.
or the old dude coming to the award show for the younger dude's plagiarized work, and not saying anything - or inviting the younger one to stay for his birthday, when he appeared uninvited - why???
all this and more just pissed me off. the only bit that made me smile was him making sure the younger dude had to use his car and the younger dude almost getting into an accident and then getting into one. well deserved. but won't say this worth the hype or the time watching it. still angry about sh*t.

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