Yes but the approach is that of the males' point of view. That powerful women are heartless bitches and that this…
No. A woman CAN be successful with her skills and her intelligence. And she doesn't have to be neither a bitch nor a psycho in order to achieve that. I live in the real world and I have female friends that are lawyers and work and they are successful in their law firms and none of them had ever the need to behave this way.
I didn't need to watch the rest of the episodes because I was certain in advance that they will try to redeem the actions of the female character that they've depicted on the first two episodes. Two episodes though, are way too much of screen time to depict a character. They invested so much of the screen time of this drama to depict just one of the main characters with some very specific negative for females characteristics and then they switched to something else in order to redeem the actions of this character and distract the attention of those viewers who might have thought that something is completely wrong with that FL character. It is obvious that this was done in purpose. The first two episodes served intentionally ( or unintentionally?? - if that is the case then the writers are idiots) a very specific ideological agenda.
And the most worrying thing is that those who kept on watching this drama pushed aside what they've saw on these two first episodes!
No thank you. You will not persuade me to watch this drama. As I've said in my review I've dropped because I don't agree with its message. These two episodes were this drama's doom.
Yes but the approach is that of the males' point of view. That powerful women are heartless bitches and that this…
I'm afraid that you've missed my point. The first two episodes that made me drop this drama depicted a completely distorted version of what women in positions of powers are supposed to be. They showed a character that is despicable and I have already analyzed the reasons why on my review and on my replies on the comments below that I would suggest to read them. Then as I predicted the show moved on to something different in order to distract the viewers attention from those first episodes and "absolute" somehow the FL character. They've made this character switch to something completely different and those who eventually watched this drama forgot completely what they've watched on the first episodes and went on commenting on the romance of the FL with the ML and such things. But the message of the first two episodes is still there. And they passed it. And the message is completely sexist and yes it is from the males point of view and shows to the 15-20 year olds who are the viewer base of such dramas how they'll supposedly look like if they ever dare to become so successful in their job.
See how you wrote it your self: I'm quoting you. you "need" something or someone to remind you of your "true" self.
Who sets that this is the true self of successful women and who says that a woman that has the qualifications to become so successful will become a so distorted person that will need someone else to remind her how she used to be?!
The message has already passed. And it has nothing to do with my personal bias because I'm neither a person in a position of power nor any kind of fifth wave feminist. But fgs... this show doesn't even stand for the first wave feminist values! It undervalues female success to the lowest point there is, and it offends the intelligence of its female viewers.
Sexist S. Korean males?!Except this show was written by a woman lol.
Yes but the approach is that of the males' point of view.
That powerful women are heartless bitches and that this is the only way for a woman to become successful at any profession and she needs a man to make her realize her softer side which is always that of a soft indecisive immature girl and that is probably the reason why she is attracted by the younger man, because the older ones are way too hardcore for her soft but hidden sugar and pink feeling.
He raped a minor. Excuse us for not thinking he deserves a public platform.
He said that she told him that she was older. But you didn't answer my question? Did the court run after her parents for neglecting and exposing their under aged daughter in danger? No it didn't. Because she was already above the age of consent and she was already above the age that the parents or guardians have the right to interfere to their already grown up children's personal affairs.
My point is that we can't have it both ways. To be adult enough to choose for our affairs, vote, drive and have credit cards arrange our future contracts and sign them , but not adult enough when things don't go in our way. If she wasn't an adult then her parents should have been prosecuted and punished hard for exposing their daughter in danger.
She consented to have an affair with him in order to get a role and when she didn't give her the role she accused him for a rape that she wasn't able to prove at the court.
But bringing up false accusations for rape or domestic abuse ( as Amber Heard did recently) is butter on the bread of the real rapists. The true victims of abuse ( sexual or other ) never get justice because there are some other people that abuse their rights in order to get what they want. The new role, the fortune of the ex husband, fame, money and so on.
And no I can't feel sorry for her. The moment that she decided that giving him sex to get a role was a good deal for her, she lost any kind of sympathy or empathy by my side. Because she should have known ( as most of you know) by that age that it is not moral, or beneficial for any person's decency to use his or her body as a exchangeable currency for such kind of favors.
He raped a minor. Excuse us for not thinking he deserves a public platform.
According to what I've read online, 18 is the age that S. Koreans are allowed to vote, get their driving license, having affairs and so on, but the age of full majority is at 19, She was 18+ when she started the affair with him, and by the time that the affair ended she was probably already 19 and thus a full adult by all legal means.
He had no obligation to give her anything if you think about it. They just had an affair, they had not singed any private contract. And the promise that he allegedly made to her shows that their affair was based on mutual interests, other than whatever personal sympathy or sexual chemistry it might existed between them.
She wasn't a child. She was way older than the age of consent, a few months before becoming a full adult in the S. Korean style in other words 18+ ( and probably already an adult when they split ) she accepted his offer and stayed with him long enough in order to eliminate any doubt that she was with him with her own will.
She brought up the matter of the age only because he didn't keep his promise to give her a role ( or perhaps the role that she was after). And she had the audacity to claim that in a court of law.
Ok let me put the thing in different terms. If she was indeed that much incapable to decide for her self at the age of 18+ then what were the responsibilities of her parents or guardians that allowed her to go all by her self to the set, date Lee Kyung Young, and allowing her to arrange all by herself for her upcoming roles with such ways?
Did the court run after her parents for neglecting that poor 18+ old "child"? I bet not.
It’s still rape, he said he would give her roles if she slept with him. Plus power abuse.
Whatever was or is the age of consent, the woman that accused him for deceiving her was 18+ that is the age of majority all around the world except S. Korea. She was way to old to claim that she didn't consent particularly by the time that the affair between them lasted for quite some time. But he was never convicted for rape, but just because he "deceived" her and she didn't gave her a role afterwards. But such kind of "deals" are done only between two consenting persons. He made her an offer and she accepted. If he used his reputation as an actor to get chicks in his bed by promising them roles, she used her beauty and sex to make him give her those roles. The both exploited and exchanged whatever each of them had in abundance. And that doesn't make him a rapist let alone a child rapist.
If he gave her the role she would have shut it up and she would have moved on and advanced her career, probably with the same method.
My point is that her morality is not any better than his because she accepted his offer knowing exactly what she was doing because she stayed in an affair with him long enough to eliminate any doubt that he forced her into that affair.
Dropped it at episode four ,, very disappointed of Ji sung's drama really disappointed the writer ruined the whole…
Yes but what is the point of being twins? It doesn't serve something into the plot. It is not that they cooperate or swap identities or something similar. So they could have cast another actor to play the other brother. Anyway.. the problem is not that much the cast of this drama but the plot that is stalled already after four episodes.
How is it getting better. They repeat the same thing again and again for four episodes straight. The first twin tries to find who killed their father with the most boring investigation ever and the other one is at the mansion and he wants to steal the Adamas shaft lol and that's it. Nothing is progressing in this plot. Did we learn something knew or something happened or there is some sort of interesting twist perhaps? The plot is literally stalled.
Meanwhile they are still casting a man that was convicted of child prostitution /rape in every k drama under the…
He was never convicted for child prostitution let alone for rape. Inform yourself because the courts decided something different from what you claim. The woman that accused him was 18+ so definitely not a child and the rape accusations were never proved in a court of law.
Meanwhile they are still casting a man that was convicted of child prostitution /rape in every k drama under the…
He was never convicted for child prostitution let alone for rape. Inform yourself because the courts decided something different from what you claim. The woman that accused him was 18+ so definitely not a child and the rape accusations were never proved in a court of law.
Sluggish up to the fourth episode with problematic characters, sets and situations. The twin main characters don't interact, Mrs. Kwon ( the head battler) looks like a comic relief ( who can take seriously the Korean version of Miss Piggy, let alone get scared of her? lol ), the mansion looks like a hotel ( and probably is) and the Adamas looks kitschy. Like a low quality glass decorative ornament! I'll watch the next two episodes just in case it gets any better but I'm already bored. 2022 looks to me like the year with the worst dramas ever. I have dropped more dramas than those that I have completed.
Are you supporter of cancel culture? The same one that tried to cancel Johnny Depp?
Ok... I apologize for misunderstanding your comment. It is difficult to understand written sarcasm. I don't have any objection on what you say. I'm completely against cancel culture as it is based on rumors that spread online like fire by people with mob mentality and destroy peoples' lives and reputations. The most recent example is what happened to Johnny Depp that was never charged about anything but he had to prove his innocence either way in a court of law in order to stop his ex from spreading false rumors and accusations against him. Same applies to Lee Kyung Young who has been branded as a child rapist without have been convicted for rape and without having an affair with a child in the first place! 18 year olds might not be adults in S. Korea but they are adults anywhere else and they are by no means children.
i hope you do realise that having sex with someone barely adult is not far from having sex with a minor which…
So you support the opinion that 18+ year old women should have sex only with men of their age. Those in their 20s should be excluded because a woman at the age of 18 is barely an adult even though she is allowed to vote, sign contracts, have a driving licence etc. She is considered an adult on everything else except on the having sexual affairs with older than her men.
I live in the real world and I have female friends that are lawyers and work and they are successful in their law firms and none of them had ever the need to behave this way.
I didn't need to watch the rest of the episodes because I was certain in advance that they will try to redeem the actions of the female character that they've depicted on the first two episodes.
Two episodes though, are way too much of screen time to depict a character. They invested so much of the screen time of this drama to depict just one of the main characters with some very specific negative for females characteristics and then they switched to something else in order to redeem the actions of this character and distract the attention of those viewers who might have thought that something is completely wrong with that FL character.
It is obvious that this was done in purpose. The first two episodes served intentionally ( or unintentionally?? - if that is the case then the writers are idiots) a very specific ideological agenda.
And the most worrying thing is that those who kept on watching this drama pushed aside what they've saw on these two first episodes!
No thank you. You will not persuade me to watch this drama. As I've said in my review I've dropped because I don't agree with its message. These two episodes were this drama's doom.
The first two episodes that made me drop this drama depicted a completely distorted version of what women in positions of powers are supposed to be.
They showed a character that is despicable and I have already analyzed the reasons why on my review and on my replies on the comments below that I would suggest to read them.
Then as I predicted the show moved on to something different in order to distract the viewers attention from those first episodes and "absolute" somehow the FL character.
They've made this character switch to something completely different and those who eventually watched this drama forgot completely what they've watched on the first episodes and went on commenting on the romance of the FL with the ML and such things.
But the message of the first two episodes is still there. And they passed it.
And the message is completely sexist and yes it is from the males point of view and shows to the 15-20 year olds who are the viewer base of such dramas how they'll supposedly look like if they ever dare to become so successful in their job.
See how you wrote it your self: I'm quoting you.
you "need" something or someone to remind you of your "true" self.
Who sets that this is the true self of successful women and who says that a woman that has the qualifications to become so successful will become a so distorted person that will need someone else to remind her how she used to be?!
The message has already passed. And it has nothing to do with my personal bias because I'm neither a person in a position of power nor any kind of fifth wave feminist.
But fgs... this show doesn't even stand for the first wave feminist values! It undervalues female success to the lowest point there is, and it offends the intelligence of its female viewers.
That powerful women are heartless bitches and that this is the only way for a woman to become successful at any profession and she needs a man to make her realize her softer side which is always that of a soft indecisive immature girl and that is probably the reason why she is attracted by the younger man, because the older ones are way too hardcore for her soft but hidden sugar and pink feeling.
My little pony and business... all in one...
But you didn't answer my question?
Did the court run after her parents for neglecting and exposing their under aged daughter in danger?
No it didn't. Because she was already above the age of consent and she was already above the age that the parents or guardians have the right to interfere to their already grown up children's personal affairs.
My point is that we can't have it both ways. To be adult enough to choose for our affairs, vote, drive and have credit cards arrange our future contracts and sign them , but not adult enough when things don't go in our way. If she wasn't an adult then her parents should have been prosecuted and punished hard for exposing their daughter in danger.
She consented to have an affair with him in order to get a role and when she didn't give her the role she accused him for a rape that she wasn't able to prove at the court.
But bringing up false accusations for rape or domestic abuse ( as Amber Heard did recently) is butter on the bread of the real rapists.
The true victims of abuse ( sexual or other ) never get justice because there are some other people that abuse their rights in order to get what they want. The new role, the fortune of the ex husband, fame, money and so on.
And no I can't feel sorry for her. The moment that she decided that giving him sex to get a role was a good deal for her, she lost any kind of sympathy or empathy by my side. Because she should have known ( as most of you know) by that age that it is not moral, or beneficial for any person's decency to use his or her body as a exchangeable currency for such kind of favors.
She was 18+ when she started the affair with him, and by the time that the affair ended she was probably already 19 and thus a full adult by all legal means.
He had no obligation to give her anything if you think about it. They just had an affair, they had not singed any private contract.
And the promise that he allegedly made to her shows that their affair was based on mutual interests, other than whatever personal sympathy or sexual chemistry it might existed between them.
She wasn't a child. She was way older than the age of consent, a few months before becoming a full adult in the S. Korean style in other words 18+ ( and probably already an adult when they split ) she accepted his offer and stayed with him long enough in order to eliminate any doubt that she was with him with her own will.
She brought up the matter of the age only because he didn't keep his promise to give her a role ( or perhaps the role that she was after).
And she had the audacity to claim that in a court of law.
Ok let me put the thing in different terms.
If she was indeed that much incapable to decide for her self at the age of 18+ then what were the responsibilities of her parents or guardians that allowed her to go all by her self to the set, date Lee Kyung Young, and allowing her to arrange all by herself for her upcoming roles with such ways?
Did the court run after her parents for neglecting that poor 18+ old "child"?
I bet not.
But he was never convicted for rape, but just because he "deceived" her and she didn't gave her a role afterwards.
But such kind of "deals" are done only between two consenting persons. He made her an offer and she accepted.
If he used his reputation as an actor to get chicks in his bed by promising them roles, she used her beauty and sex to make him give her those roles.
The both exploited and exchanged whatever each of them had in abundance. And that doesn't make him a rapist let alone a child rapist.
If he gave her the role she would have shut it up and she would have moved on and advanced her career, probably with the same method.
My point is that her morality is not any better than his because she accepted his offer knowing exactly what she was doing because she stayed in an affair with him long enough to eliminate any doubt that he forced her into that affair.
So they could have cast another actor to play the other brother.
Anyway.. the problem is not that much the cast of this drama but the plot that is stalled already after four episodes.
The first twin tries to find who killed their father with the most boring investigation ever and the other one is at the mansion and he wants to steal the Adamas shaft lol and that's it. Nothing is progressing in this plot.
Did we learn something knew or something happened or there is some sort of interesting twist perhaps?
The plot is literally stalled.
I'll watch the next two episodes just in case it gets any better but I'm already bored.
2022 looks to me like the year with the worst dramas ever. I have dropped more dramas than those that I have completed.
The most recent example is what happened to Johnny Depp that was never charged about anything but he had to prove his innocence either way in a court of law in order to stop his ex from spreading false rumors and accusations against him.
Same applies to Lee Kyung Young who has been branded as a child rapist without have been convicted for rape and without having an affair with a child in the first place! 18 year olds might not be adults in S. Korea but they are adults anywhere else and they are by no means children.
She is considered an adult on everything else except on the having sexual affairs with older than her men.
( give me a break !)