Elisasheva

Yep, we will turn towards manual jobs sooner than we expect xd

Yeah, I don't entirely disagree with the message, I just always start to have deep thought processes in my head after watching something engaging xd The story was great tho, if considered individually, the ML had a lot to learn; his lessons were just too harsh imo (like literally dying being dismembered...). If only people like this serial killer or CEO are going to this whole terrifying hell ML saw, I'm willing to accept ML's punishment.

exactly, parents only want their children to graduate from one of the most prestigious universities in Seoul and become a manager or a doctor or a lawyer, but what about such needed specialists as plumbers, electricians, hair dressers, even workers in a factory or cleaners? Society can't function without the whole variety of positions so why some are considered shameful? I've seen this pattern in most k-dramas tbh - apart from doctor and lawyer, only a corporate machine position is prestigious enough for parents to be proud.

Also, if not for ML no one would punish this sick CEO bastard. He said himself that world is his playground, and indeed it is for sick individuals in power who bribe everyone. It is only hell for poor people who struggle to make their ends meet.
This topic enraged me a little, I admit xd

"Just makes one think that religions really are just a tool to control society" - indeed that's one of the reasons religions exist in such forms. To control society in many aspects.

Exactly, it ignores the hardships of getting the first job in Korea, how young people have to compete so hard and live with constant shame of not getting a corporate job or earning enough... It ignores the fact that the sick society actually pushed him down that roof. And what about his trauma of witnessing someone's death right in front of him just before his interview? I remember from the show some monologue of his - that he feared all the time, feared to lose, to be shamed, to be rejected. Maybe, but rules of life in Korea can push a normal human to the edge. It would push me too.

Actually, it made me feel weird when I heard that the biggest dream of a ML was to become a corporate machine, to work till late evening everyday and not have anything from life actually... I thought "well, i'd rather start my own restaurant or anything than sit in an office everyday until idk 8pm". I understand them though, given their miserable circumstances stable job is the only thing that can guarantee some peace of mind. Poor, poor society.

Sponsored by SK's gov... sounds about right. Metaphorically - a slave owner doesn't want their slaves to end their lives. He wants them to work their asses off being afraid of ending it all.

Some of you say that this show changes the perception of life etc and I felt it too, but it makes me wonder... Some people are not lucky enough to have loving parents/spouse. This show basically emphasizes that the only thing that should keep you alive at bad times is fear of hurting others. It emphasizes that we live only for others and because of others. But what about ourselves? It completely misses the topics of self love, self worth or that we should enjoy life also for ourselves... The conclusion may be that if you have no one close to cry for you then you can kill yourself. Basically the whole plot of the series exists because of the mother and the girlfriend. What if no one cried for the ML?

that's not the only thing i got from it, it just makes me wonder if Death punishes only those who left the loved ones behind.

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Psychopaths with gorgeous hair 😂
I riot for that to happen though

So... According to Death's logic, if someone has no one to mourn them then they can commit suicide and won't be punished since they didn't harm anyone in the process?

That was an awesome ride...
Although it was sooo gory, I really loved the whole part with psychopatic CEO, it added a thrill to it all. Of course played by an awesome actor... Loved all the actors in this. Such a masterpiece I have no words.
The ending had me in tears, I knew who's gonna be the last "reincarnation" the moment death pulled the trigger for the last time. I was like - omg, it's so clever and obvious, it's the only way it can end. The only way to wrap it up.

I was sure they weren't really dying but I had no idea who created the game. The answer wasn't really satisfying imo

I agree, I'd like to see them confronting each other about all the betrayals and being actually murdered by your classmates... How would you look at your friends if you knew they voted for your death or killed you with their own hands?

my exact thoughts... was she even bullied before this one incident? I think they didn't clarify. If not, then yeah, one incident like this pushing someone to suicide? Plus the mother said sth about the rumour, which indicates that... her classmates thought it's a real video? like, who would believe such an obvious fake??

But about erasing, in most cases it's impossible to erase sth fully if its already circulating on the internet, even if you're the most skilled tech expert.

if she was bullied constantly and this incident just pushed her over the edge then okay

maybe, but they'd probably figure out its not reality if they could remember past games. This way it feels like real life

near the end of the game i saw the potential for them all to agree to kill all citizens (they were iin that state of mind for sure), so i figure that Jung Won was always the one opposing this idea? Plus, did Jung Won and Da Bom decided together who to kill on the last night? I think they didn't, so the show contradicts itself

So mafia really could kill two people at night... I thought the rule was one person per night, but if not, then the whole series really doesnt make any sense.

So the parents kidnapped a whole class just like that? and keep them where? how could they even do that, did they hire a real mafia to do the job? what a naive idea...

And I dont understand the reason Se Eun killed herself, actually. Dont get me wrong, I know sometimes people have depression, feel empty etc for not real reason, but here she basically killed herself because of some fake videos with her face in it, and it was obvious that the video is not real. Did her classmates believe it is real or did they know it's a fake? They didn't clarify that too. Maybe I'm wrong but I don't see here any reason for suicide. It was just very rushed and they didnt explain the situation properly, what did her classmates do to her exactly. She just went up the bridge straight away.

to those who say "so mafia can kill more than one person per night?!"
I don't think they can, but they don't know it yet. Jung Won lied claiming she killed her friends, so no one else was dead when Da Beom was killing Mi Na. I bet in the next ep he will find out that he can't kill anyone else while trying.

But it doesn't mean that plotholes don't exist - why didn't they try to kill more people before? It's obvious they would... so it's just stupid.

it's possible to figure out from which side the door was open. or close the door the way that it's impossible to open from the inside. any plan is better than no plan at all