Whenever a series isn't made by one of the big Thai BL production companies, or if it has a dark romance theme,…
It’s true that the Payback remake isn't made by a big BL company, just like you said. But my point still stands because it already has a huge fanbase since the Korean manhwa is super famous it's actually one of my favorites. Plus, it’s not even a dark romance. It just has a few toxic traits, but honestly, that happens in any romance. On the other hand, Don't Be Too Emotional is completely different. It's an actual dark romance based on a trilogy of novels, and since it's not from a huge studio either, people are just review-bombing it. It honestly pisses me off how they do this to dark romance. I get that some people don't like it and find it too toxic, but if you don't like it, just don't watch it or rate it! For example, I don't like the friends-to-lovers trope, but if I know a series has it, I don't go out of my way to watch it just to leave a bad review.😬😭
*out of character*I'm hating the fact that the rating is quite low. I hope it doesn't end up like yesterday the…
Whenever a series isn't made by one of the big Thai BL production companies, or if it has a dark romance theme, people always downgrade it. Even though they know they don't like this genre, they still watch it and give it low ratings.
that's a great message! I wish more women, especially mothers, prioritized their own wellbeing. the birth rate…
The idea that a woman should always put herself before her family is a terrible message. When you choose to have children, you also choose the responsibility of caring for them. You can't ignore that responsibility just because you're pursuing your own happiness.
If everyone put themselves first all the time, where would the line be? Neglecting your children because it's easier or more enjoyable to do something else isn't freedom it's irresponsible. Children who grow up neglected don't just suffer themselves; they often carry those wounds into adulthood and can end up hurting others as well.
You also argue that South Korea's low birth rate is partly because men there behave badly. But if your solution is to encourage mothers to put their own desires ahead of their children, how is that supposed to create better men in the next generation? That doesn't make sense to me. If someone only wants to focus on themselves, that's their choice but then they shouldn't have children. Parenthood means balancing your own needs with the responsibility of raising your kids.
Well, at least it's an hour-long episode. Japanese BL series are usually only 25 minutes, but after the opening song, ending theme, and previous episode recap, you only get 15 minutes of actual content per week!🤣🤣🤷🏾♀️
Can I ask how possessive and jealous Big Jane was in the novel?
Many people misunderstood Big Jane after watching the trailer because of the demon wings shown in some scenes. They assumed it was going to be a supernatural story about a human and a demon, but that isn't the case. The wings are purely symbolic. They represent the idea of "making a deal with the devil."
Big Jane is an ordinary human who makes deals with students, using his money, influence, and connections to grant their wishes. In return, they must pay a heavy price, often something emotionally or personally devastating. That's why he is compared to the devil.
His first meeting with Little Jane, however, was completely unplanned. They met on a football field when Big Jane got out of his car to pick up a ball. Little Jane simply handed it back to him without recognizing who he was or wanting anything from him. His sincere and genuine attitude caught Big Jane's attention because everyone else approached him for money, power, or favors.
Out of curiosity, Big Jane began love bombing Little Jane and tried to make him fall for him, almost as if it were a game. He wasn't in love at first, but after spending more time with him, his feelings became real. Later, when Little Jane wanted to leave the relationship, Big Jane refused to let him go.
I kinda smelled it. But black flag? That I didn't knew. One thing confuse me why big jane want to trap little…
Big Jane first approached Little Jane out of curiosity, not love. When they first met on the football field, Little Jane looked at him with complete sincerity. Unlike everyone else, he wasn't interested in Big Jane's money, status, or influence he simply wanted his ball back and didn't even know who Big Jane was. Fascinated by someone who expected nothing from him, Big Jane decided to win him over through love bombing. Only after spending more time with him did his feelings become genuine.
Everything changes when Little Jane discovers Big Jane's true nature after a girl dies because of one of his deals. He tries to leave the relationship, but Big Jane refuses to let him go. He manipulates him psychologically, isolates him, exploits his weaknesses, and even traps him in a contract to keep him by his side.
The abuse eventually becomes so severe that Little Jane reaches his breaking point. His entire family gets dragged into Big Jane's schemes, leaving him emotionally devastated. When Big Jane finally sees him collapse, he realizes the damage he has caused and tries to make amends. Their relationship is very similar to To My Shore: once the abuser realizes how deeply he has broken the person he loves, he finally lets him go in an attempt to make up for the harm he has caused.
On-hold. Cause my friend told me that this is a love triangle...or should I say love rectangle? Since both Korn'…
You could say there's a love triangle, but Dan is firmly stuck in the friend zone. He has feelings for Little Jane and tries to protect him from Big Jane, but their relationship never becomes romantic or intimate
Can I ask how possessive and jealous Big Jane was in the novel?
Big Jane is known as “the devil” because he makes deals with people at school and university, using his power, money, and connections to fulfill their desires. This is how he relates to others in general: through contracts where he gives something in exchange for a future emotional or personal “payment.” This way of interacting defines his personality and the way he understands relationships. This also extends to his relationship with Little Jane. After a girl dies for failing to fulfill one of Big Jane’s deals, Little Jane becomes afraid and starts to see his true nature, which makes him want to leave the relationship. However, Big Jane applies the same contract logic to them. At first, the relationship seems normal, but once Little Jane tries to leave, he begins using manipulation, psychological pressure, and emotional control, just like he does with other people. In fact, he ends up making a “contract” with Little Jane by exploiting his weaknesses, because for him this is the only way to keep him close and prevent him from leaving.
Black flag?!?!! and I thought he was such a gentleman, guess the OST lyrics didn’t lie
LOL, girl, this isn't even a red flag it's a black flag🏴. At first, Big Jane seems super sweet and adorable, but it's all an act. He's been manipulating Little Jane from the very beginning. If you've seen the Chinese BL To My Shore, it's kind of like that. Once Little Jane finds out what Big Jane really does and all the horrible things he's done, he tries to leave him. But Big Jane won't let him go. That's when he drops the act completely and shows his true colors. The trailer even shows Little Jane kneeling in front of Big Jane not for anything romantic, but because he's completely given up. We're seriously not ready for this series. Protect your mental health.😫🤣
I've seen some people say that the main couple gets together too quickly, so I wanted to clarify something.
In most BL stories, the main focus is watching the characters fall in love and eventually become a couple. That's why they usually don't start dating until the middle or even the end of the story.
This one is different.
The story isn't about how they become a couple it's about their relationship after they do. That's why they get together early. Most of the story focuses on their unhealthy and toxic dynamic.
At first, everything seems sweet and caring, but as the story goes on, you'll start to see why this is a black flag story. That's the whole point.
So far, the drama is much softer and lighter than in the novel. There's a much more depressing and cruel atmosphere…
When the final trailer came out a few days ago, the scenes near the end of their youth and the ones set ten years later looked much darker and more emotional. There seemed to be more tension, pain, and suffering.
I think the show may be starting with a brighter and happier atmosphere on purpose so that, when everything changes later because of certain events, the emotional impact will be much stronger. Watching the characters suffer after seeing them happy will probably be more painful for the audience than if the story had been dark from the beginning.
reading the comments i see a lot of ppl mad abt abolishing monarchy like i understand we came here for the alternate…
For me, abolishing the monarchy didn't make much sense and the ending didn't really justify it well. I get the arguments about protecting his family or not wanting the role anymore, but it still felt like such a huge decision was made way too easily and quickly. Also, the ending left some plotlines underdeveloped and a few villains got endings that felt too soft.
If everyone put themselves first all the time, where would the line be? Neglecting your children because it's easier or more enjoyable to do something else isn't freedom it's irresponsible. Children who grow up neglected don't just suffer themselves; they often carry those wounds into adulthood and can end up hurting others as well.
You also argue that South Korea's low birth rate is partly because men there behave badly. But if your solution is to encourage mothers to put their own desires ahead of their children, how is that supposed to create better men in the next generation? That doesn't make sense to me. If someone only wants to focus on themselves, that's their choice but then they shouldn't have children. Parenthood means balancing your own needs with the responsibility of raising your kids.
Big Jane is an ordinary human who makes deals with students, using his money, influence, and connections to grant their wishes. In return, they must pay a heavy price, often something emotionally or personally devastating. That's why he is compared to the devil.
His first meeting with Little Jane, however, was completely unplanned. They met on a football field when Big Jane got out of his car to pick up a ball. Little Jane simply handed it back to him without recognizing who he was or wanting anything from him. His sincere and genuine attitude caught Big Jane's attention because everyone else approached him for money, power, or favors.
Out of curiosity, Big Jane began love bombing Little Jane and tried to make him fall for him, almost as if it were a game. He wasn't in love at first, but after spending more time with him, his feelings became real. Later, when Little Jane wanted to leave the relationship, Big Jane refused to let him go.
Everything changes when Little Jane discovers Big Jane's true nature after a girl dies because of one of his deals. He tries to leave the relationship, but Big Jane refuses to let him go. He manipulates him psychologically, isolates him, exploits his weaknesses, and even traps him in a contract to keep him by his side.
The abuse eventually becomes so severe that Little Jane reaches his breaking point. His entire family gets dragged into Big Jane's schemes, leaving him emotionally devastated. When Big Jane finally sees him collapse, he realizes the damage he has caused and tries to make amends. Their relationship is very similar to To My Shore: once the abuser realizes how deeply he has broken the person he loves, he finally lets him go in an attempt to make up for the harm he has caused.
This also extends to his relationship with Little Jane. After a girl dies for failing to fulfill one of Big Jane’s deals, Little Jane becomes afraid and starts to see his true nature, which makes him want to leave the relationship.
However, Big Jane applies the same contract logic to them. At first, the relationship seems normal, but once Little Jane tries to leave, he begins using manipulation, psychological pressure, and emotional control, just like he does with other people. In fact, he ends up making a “contract” with Little Jane by exploiting his weaknesses, because for him this is the only way to keep him close and prevent him from leaving.
In most BL stories, the main focus is watching the characters fall in love and eventually become a couple. That's why they usually don't start dating until the middle or even the end of the story.
This one is different.
The story isn't about how they become a couple it's about their relationship after they do. That's why they get together early. Most of the story focuses on their unhealthy and toxic dynamic.
At first, everything seems sweet and caring, but as the story goes on, you'll start to see why this is a black flag story. That's the whole point.
I think the show may be starting with a brighter and happier atmosphere on purpose so that, when everything changes later because of certain events, the emotional impact will be much stronger. Watching the characters suffer after seeing them happy will probably be more painful for the audience than if the story had been dark from the beginning.