watched this drama over 2 years ago and I still can't seem to move on from it. It was so heartbreakingly beautiful…
Actually, the author has some short stories (if I recall correctly, about the winter season) while Koichi was still alive. But my computer files are a mess right now, I have no idea where I sorted them š
Interesting takeā¦made me think a bitā¦.I know that line is frequently used in BLs, though Iāve always thought…
Thanks for sharing your perspective. I can see where youāre coming from and why that line might feel reassuring or contextual in the scene.
But at the same time, in the novel, Wataraiās realization is very clear and precise: āMaybe I didnāt need to find a girlfriend like Hioki because right here, was the person Iād been looking forā
He imagined a āgirlfriend versionā of Hioki for a moment but immediately understands he didnāt need a hypothetical or safer version, bc what he wants is the real Hioki as he also realized that āI really do like the real, unadorned Hiokiā
For me, the adaptationās added line shifts that emotional logic a bit. It turns a more specific queer moment into a generalized statement, which is why it felt like a shortcut for me compared to the novel. I get that in-universe it could be read as reassurance, but the novel frames the attraction as unambiguous and precise, and thatās what made the moment so meaningful to me
i love this show but i'm so tired of the āI like you whether youāre a boy or a girlā thing that quite a…
Someone finally gets my point, and to be honest, that line wasnāt originally part of the novel. In the novel, Watarai immediately realized: āMaybe I didnāt need to find a girlfriend like Hioki. Because right here was the person Iād been looking forā and later in the novel: āI realized⦠I really do like the real, unadorned Hiokiā
His attraction is specifically to Hioki as he is, not a gender-neutral version of Hioki
Can I be honest? I canāt sleep without releasing my thoughts, and this is one of those moments thatās been sitting with me.
Yes, that realization actually deepens his love instead of diluting it. Loving Hioki as a guy means loving the exact circumstances that shaped him, specifically, the version of Hioki that exists with Watarai, not some abstract, interchangeable idea of him.
But the added line, āI like you whether youāre a boy or a girlā (which was also NOT originally part of the novel), just doesnāt work for me. Watarai isnāt drawn to a hypothetical girl version of Hioki, heās attracted to Hioki as he is. Inserting that line flattens what should be a very precise, very queer moment. It shifts the focus away from desire and specificity and into something safer, broader, and frankly tired something added to reassure straight viewers rather than to serve the emotional logic of the story. And thatās kind of disappointing, ngl.
That said, I still love this show. One overused line doesnāt erase the tenderness, the intimacy, or the sincerity that make Watarai and Hioki compelling. I just wish it hadnāt reached for a shortcut when the moment was already saying something much braver on its own.
I gave this drama a high rating because watching School Trip at night after a long, exhausting day genuinely helped…
Ify so much!! It hits even harder for me bc it reminds me of those one-sided crushes I never got to pursue irl, or even experience as a closeted gay teenager lol. Somehow this drama heals that little teenage ghost in me that always wanted moments like these. Some people take it way too far and make something so simple unnecessarily complicated, when itās really just meant to be enjoyed
This is such a refreshing and sweet story and honestly Iām entirely with you. This is a sweet youth romance…
Same honestly. I got my spark back too, but itās not even about āoutgrowingā BL well, itās just that a lot of adaptations donāt hit the way the manga or novels do. Some actors canāt bring out the chemistry or the emotional beats the source material promised, and that disconnect ruins it for me. Thatās why I stopped finishing the School Trip novel yet, I donāt wanna spoil the show if the live action ends up feeling weaker
This series is cliche as hell, no lies, but the chemistry between these two is so good af. It kinda reminds me of Kiekoi, the story isnāt anything special but the way the actors play off each other makes it work. Sometimes itās not the plot, itās how believable the pair feels
There's a popular argument against these fluffy BLs that teenage boys are just horny and would jump each other…
No exactly, you get it. Thatās what I used to say as well, if we had shows like this earlier, a lot of us couldāve found the language for ourselves way sooner. And youāre right, BL isnāt some one-size-fits-all category. Itās a whole spectrum and thereās space for all kinds of stories. Thatās why limiting it to one ātarget audienceā never made sense to me in the first place
There's a popular argument against these fluffy BLs that teenage boys are just horny and would jump each other…
Thatās exactly why my own community isnāt progressing and the fact that heās also part of my queer community makes it even more frustrating. Shows like these arenāt created for the specific audience he keeps insisting on. Theyāre made for us. For us gays who never got to experience the kind of soft, wholesome teenage romance straight teens we see everywhere. For the kids who need queer content they can watch openly, even with their parents. For the people who finally want to see themselves reflected in stories that arenāt built on trauma or fetish
This is such a refreshing and sweet story and honestly Iām entirely with you. This is a sweet youth romance…
Tbh, the OP actually has a point about those girls who get āirkedā by any homo stuff like kissing scenes, bed scenes, anything intimate. That hits for me because Iāve had acquaintances who claimed they āwatch BLā but the moment the two guys actually kiss, they start acting disgusted. Sorry but thatās kind of homophobic. But we also canāt generalize it as all teen girls or all women. Letās say some. Some people have their own reasons and are simply NOT used to seeing intimate or R18 scenes in general, whether itās straight or queer media
And honestly? Those some fujoshi who only watch BL for the āseggsā part arenāt any different either. The ones who only look forward to the explicit scenes⦠it really feels like they see gay people as entertainment or something to satisfy their fantasies
What annoys me the most is how OP made it sound like these shows are made for girls, when in reality, a LOT of us gay people watch and enjoy fluffy BL too. We exist, and BL isnāt just some fanservice genre built solely for a straight female audience. Donāt erase the actual queer viewers who are here because these stories matter to us
This drama has me confused. I get that it is endearing and full of special moments but I also feel like something…
For me, their dynamic reads more like companionship than an actual couple. The romantic chemistry just isnāt there, but I can let that slide since like the one person said here, romance isnāt the main focus anyway. It doesnāt really bother me as well bc everything else in the story is crafted so well. This show plays more like a family or queer-drama series than a BL
Okay, I get where youāre coming from with the whole āthe teen girls are "comfortable" with homos as…
No thanks. You donāt get to tell me what I should watch to feel what I want to feel. My gay friend and I enjoy it, and some of us just want a little escape from reality. Maybe get a job and stop camping here, dropping your think pieces and essays every wk abt a show you donāt even like just like some unemployed wannabe BL critic
Will never understand why people so mad this show is getting high rating like If you don't like it, drop and GO!…
Lol, thatās why I kinda felt offended. Iām gay, and my gay friend is watching it too. And yeah, I know this kind of perfectly smooth gay story isnāt really how things play out for most of us irl. But sometimes we just need a little escape from how harsh the world is. Thereās nothing wrong with finding comfort where you can
This is such a refreshing and sweet story and honestly Iām entirely with you. This is a sweet youth romance…
You really get me. CM and Kiekoi are literally my top 2 and 3 BLs (and honestly, School Trip might replace or tie with Kiekoi at this point lol)
I donāt really care whether a BL has kissing scenes or love scenes or not, what matters to me is how the whole show is executed. But ngl, I am expecting a bit more than a fish kiss if they ever give us one here. Japanese dramas (not just BLs, even straight ones) used to serve the non-passionate kisses ever. Like pls, I just want to see lips actually enter another pair of lips atleast š
And yeah, Iām also being petty because I got annoyed at that one comment saying this show is āfor teen girls who donāt want to see homo stuffā Yes, those people annoy me too, donāt get me wrong but itās the same energy as people who watch BL with voyeuristic expectations. As a gay person, itās irritating seeing some treat us like entertainment or fantasy fuel to satisfy their desires
Some people think they ARE the standard. 𤣠There are other people here that rant over this series since weeks…
Itās just a simple, silly, cute, comforting show and the characters are just honestly so refreshing to watch. Let people enjoy things, the way some of them also enjoy their āstandardā BL or whatever
And yeah, I Hear The Sunspot had all the potential, the story was there, the actors can act but the chemistry was dry af idk
Some people think they ARE the standard. 𤣠There are other people here that rant over this series since weeks…
Not worth my time lol. It just annoys me when people go way too hard on a simple, cute BL teen romance, when the same stuff in straight high school dramas gets a free pass every time. Like⦠when I was younger, I literally wished those hetero school shows had versions with two boys, and Japanese BLs are finally giving us that
And yeah, this BL is cliche asf, Iām not pretending it isnāt. But thereās more to a show than plot alone, theres the acting, the chemistry, the execution⦠those things count too
The real world is already exhausting. Sometimes we just want something soft and wholesome to watch. Itās not that deep fr
And if I ended up being in the minority who didnāt like a BL (like I Hear the Sunspot), Iād just drop a comment and dip. Iām not out here trying to force everyone to agree with me like some try-hard āBL enthusiast/criticā
But at the same time, in the novel, Wataraiās realization is very clear and precise: āMaybe I didnāt need to find a girlfriend like Hioki because right here, was the person Iād been looking forā
He imagined a āgirlfriend versionā of Hioki for a moment but immediately understands he didnāt need a hypothetical or safer version, bc what he wants is the real Hioki as he also realized that āI really do like the real, unadorned Hiokiā
For me, the adaptationās added line shifts that emotional logic a bit. It turns a more specific queer moment into a generalized statement, which is why it felt like a shortcut for me compared to the novel. I get that in-universe it could be read as reassurance, but the novel frames the attraction as unambiguous and precise, and thatās what made the moment so meaningful to me
His attraction is specifically to Hioki as he is, not a gender-neutral version of Hioki
me, just asking for one Hioki
Yes, that realization actually deepens his love instead of diluting it. Loving Hioki as a guy means loving the exact circumstances that shaped him, specifically, the version of Hioki that exists with Watarai, not some abstract, interchangeable idea of him.
But the added line, āI like you whether youāre a boy or a girlā (which was also NOT originally part of the novel), just doesnāt work for me. Watarai isnāt drawn to a hypothetical girl version of Hioki, heās attracted to Hioki as he is. Inserting that line flattens what should be a very precise, very queer moment. It shifts the focus away from desire and specificity and into something safer, broader, and frankly tired something added to reassure straight viewers rather than to serve the emotional logic of the story. And thatās kind of disappointing, ngl.
That said, I still love this show. One overused line doesnāt erase the tenderness, the intimacy, or the sincerity that make Watarai and Hioki compelling. I just wish it hadnāt reached for a shortcut when the moment was already saying something much braver on its own.
This series is cliche as hell, no lies, but the chemistry between these two is so good af. It kinda reminds me of Kiekoi, the story isnāt anything special but the way the actors play off each other makes it work. Sometimes itās not the plot, itās how believable the pair feels
And honestly? Those some fujoshi who only watch BL for the āseggsā part arenāt any different either. The ones who only look forward to the explicit scenes⦠it really feels like they see gay people as entertainment or something to satisfy their fantasies
What annoys me the most is how OP made it sound like these shows are made for girls, when in reality, a LOT of us gay people watch and enjoy fluffy BL too. We exist, and BL isnāt just some fanservice genre built solely for a straight female audience. Donāt erase the actual queer viewers who are here because these stories matter to us
I donāt really care whether a BL has kissing scenes or love scenes or not, what matters to me is how the whole show is executed. But ngl, I am expecting a bit more than a fish kiss if they ever give us one here. Japanese dramas (not just BLs, even straight ones) used to serve the non-passionate kisses ever. Like pls, I just want to see lips actually enter another pair of lips atleast š
And yeah, Iām also being petty because I got annoyed at that one comment saying this show is āfor teen girls who donāt want to see homo stuffā Yes, those people annoy me too, donāt get me wrong but itās the same energy as people who watch BL with voyeuristic expectations. As a gay person, itās irritating seeing some treat us like entertainment or fantasy fuel to satisfy their desires
And yeah, I Hear The Sunspot had all the potential, the story was there, the actors can act but the chemistry was dry af idk
And yeah, this BL is cliche asf, Iām not pretending it isnāt. But thereās more to a show than plot alone, theres the acting, the chemistry, the execution⦠those things count too
The real world is already exhausting. Sometimes we just want something soft and wholesome to watch. Itās not that deep fr
And if I ended up being in the minority who didnāt like a BL (like I Hear the Sunspot), Iād just drop a comment and dip. Iām not out here trying to force everyone to agree with me like some try-hard āBL enthusiast/criticā