The most ridiculous thing was the love triangle. It was more ridiculous than annoying. FL supposedly has a big…
I do some research before watching a drama. I cant remember but I guess it ticked some of my nono watch checklist. Maybe it doesnt have a happy ending, or it has a terrible love triangle, or something like that
The most ridiculous thing was the love triangle. It was more ridiculous than annoying. FL supposedly has a big…
that's the complete explanation yes, and when talking about FL he says that. But many times, and Infront of others like FLs mom and grandmom, they just say "the accident was [the other girls name]" fault. literally
The most ridiculous thing was the love triangle. It was more ridiculous than annoying. FL supposedly has a big…
Easy, the "stuff" i've been seing is this exact same situation in every drama, while almost never seeing the same situation with reverse genders. That's the main complain.
Like you say, this scene is a minor thing. I said so in my first post. I never said it ruined the show, I specified it's very short. But it is shoehorned into the plot just to do the same scene as almost every other romance drama.
The most ridiculous thing was the love triangle. It was more ridiculous than annoying. FL supposedly has a big…
If you dont see differences in dramas when ML "does something bad" vs when FL "does something bnad", you are blind
If you would gather all romance dramas text, and do a count for the word "sorry" said by MLs and said by FLs, the difference in ratio wouldnt be just bigger for MLs, it would be like 50 to 1.
About point 1. Im not saying your explanation isnt true. Im saying, if you reverse the genders, FL wouldnt have needed to apologize for 6 episodes, if at all. And if I complained about it, I would be having this conversation and the other guy would be explaining to me how she was insecure about her financial situation and had a valid reason to reject him.
For point 2, either a rejection requires an apology (or earning his/her trust back after rejecting him/her) or it doesnt. Whats not right is that when ML rejects, he has to work his ass off to earn her again. But when FL does the rejection, ML again has to work his ass off to convince her.
The most ridiculous thing was the love triangle. It was more ridiculous than annoying. FL supposedly has a big…
No, she didnt rehect him. The paralel is double standards. This same situation with FL saving a life while confronting her big anxiety would never have ended with ML blaming her. Same as FL rejecting ML would never end like when ML rejects FL.
Im not saying ML in you are my glory did well. But 2 things about it
1. She should indeed have been hurt and mad. But after realizing he only did it because of his insecurities, not because he didnt like her, which was about 2 episodes later, not 6, , she should have stopped being angry and talked about how she doesnt care about their money differences and fixed it
2. Same as he didnt do right because even having reason for doing so, he hurt her feelings and should apologize, FLs also hurt MLs feelings when they reject them, even having reasons for doing so, and also should apologize. But FLs get a free pass on apologies while MLs get scenes specifically invented for them to apologize
The most ridiculous thing was the love triangle. It was more ridiculous than annoying. FL supposedly has a big…
The pararlels is, in 80% if not more of the romance dramas, there is a scene like this one where ML needs to apologize. And in many dramas the same "problem" happens with oposite roles... and its still ML who needs to apologize.
"it's just getting mad for heavens sake, not like she killed his cat" I gave the drama a 9/10, im not burning her at the stake. That doesnt mean that scene is absolutly unfair towards ML, and would never ever happen if it was FL with a big lifechanging disability and depression and ML getting mad at her for an sms right when she is confronting it.
Same as in action movies or videogames the cool and strong one is usually the man, because the audience is mainly male. It happens there too, but it is recognized. Everybody knows and says those things are to cater to male fantasy. Well, romance dramas make ML apologize to cater to female guilty pleasure. Just in this case it's not often mentioned. But after 170 romance dramas, I am quite sick of the trope. Doesnt mean I still dont love the dramas
The most ridiculous thing was the love triangle. It was more ridiculous than annoying. FL supposedly has a big…
"He would apologize 100 more times if needed because he is the one pursuing"
Exactly, because he is an ML pursuing FL, he needs to be thankful for her attention. But when it's FL who pursues ML, it's also ML who has to be thankful for it and even pay back, like in Hidden Love. You wouldnt see comments saying Hidden Loves FL should be the one apologizing and thanking ML, since its her doing the pursuing. Oh no, as soon as ML realizes she was pursuing her, he schemes an entire plot to "pay her back". Or in you are my glory when ML rejects FL. Yes, he also had important reasons. He did like her, but was unsecure about his financial situation and that is the only reason he rejected her. But since he is male, he has to apologize and win her back while she is mad for 6 episodes. Yet when FL rejects ML in a drama, she had important reasons, like here or in the first frost, and it just means ML has to work harder
At the end, every scene like the one we are talking about in romance dramas is a clear display of double standards.
The only way a male could have done to FL what she did to ML here, is if he was the villain sML
The most ridiculous thing was the love triangle. It was more ridiculous than annoying. FL supposedly has a big…
Episode 33, minute 36:50 "Lin's accident was Ma Nianyuans fault" (they say this many times, this is just the first I randomly found. I think I just have the show more fresh in my memory
And the main problem wasnt getting mad without thinking about it. The problem is never apologizing about it, while ML keeps apologizing and even at the end of the scene, saying smug comments like you need to do better. It is her who needs to do better. Imagine any other drama with oposite roles. FL having a big ass life changing problem, being depressed for years about it, having to suddenly confront it in a stressful life dependant situation.... and ML appeariong and making a scene because she didnt send an sms. Then she proves she sent it. And ML just barely forgives her while saying things like it better never happen again. Well you cant imagine it becasue it would never happen the other way around in a romance drama.
The most ridiculous thing was the love triangle. It was more ridiculous than annoying. FL supposedly has a big…
ML literally said you can pick between us. How can you not call it a triangle. Even shows where FL doesnt like the sML are annoying if he likes her and he gets too much screentime together with her. But again, it really wasnt annoying in this show, he was too unlikeable and every action he did was against himself. With how much FL liked him, I dont think I would have been able to continue watching it if they have had cute moments together.
She wasnt mad like crazy? Oh right, because when a girl leaves without you and doesnt reply or talk to you she isnt mad like crazy right... Actually that's a step above yelling. "it just took one text from him".... one text that proved how wrong and mean she had been. She should not have "forgiven him", she should have apologized. And not only did she not do it but she continued saying things like "you need to do better"... what the frak, you entitled brat. How dare you say that to him, who was just reminded he can never operate again, just because his text wasnt delivered to you.... Im amazed you can defend her attitude.
And about the accident, they said literally, and several times "he can never blabla again becaues of her", and "the accident was her fault". I finished the show a few hours ago and they repeat it in the last episodes again. For example when her dad is in the hoispital and her mom appears and finds out about whan happened
The most ridiculous thing was the love triangle. It was more ridiculous than annoying. FL supposedly has a big…
You seem to forget this is a romance drama, not real life. If FL got a deadly disease and died, it would be totally realistic, because that happens. But it would be a shit ending. Or if in the future scenes we see one of them cheating. "its not a bad ending, those things happen in real life"... yeah, but Im not watching real life
About the crush, I didnt say it wasnt possible. I said since the show didnt have any scene where we saw them having a nice time together, it was impossible to find it credible. Which was ridiculous but good. You wouldnt call it a love triangle? xD As soon as 2 charcaters have interest in the same charcter, its a triangle. Then it can be more or less annoying, depending on several things, like if the other person ignores the secondary lead completly, or doesnt like him but still does a lot of things with him, or even also likes him. This triangle would have been terrible, since FL liked him too, but was saved thanks to how ridiculously unbelievable it was, because sML didnt do a single thing to be likeable. He was just pathetic, which made it not annoying. And about the story not making any sense without the triangle, while the initial crush seems like the premise of the show, it had no real impact. If they would just sshow her final college days, and the start of the missunderstanding between the leads, everything else could have been the same removing sML.
Asian parents beating their kids? wtf of an argument is that? A guy is dieing, ML is confronting his BIG anxiety, and FL, who is an angel, suddenly gets mad like crazy because she was worried. Read the room you brat. But that wasnt the worst thing. She realizes he did send the message and it was just a delivery error.... and she does not apologize? WTF. And he continues apologizing. But this scene is normal if you watch a lot of romance dramas. Inventing a scene so ML has to apologize to FL while she is mad is the bread and butter of romance dramas, since girls are the big audience and thats a guilty pleasure. Dont look for deeper reasons, they just want to get ML apologizing like in 80% of romance dramas. Im just starting love between lines, which has the "healthy relationship" tag. Yet I bet it will have a scene where FL gets mad and ML has to apologize, like every romancedrama, let me get back to you when it probably happens. In this drama tho it was just unexpected because FL complaining about something so small when somebody is dieing and your love is suffering from his worst fear, is pathetic.
Third point. You like to quote real life.... except when it doesnt suit you. Both know they like the other one, both know they will end up together, both have said so out loud, none of them has any reason that prevents them from getting together... Nobody in real life doesnt start dating when you are at that point. That doesnt mean you are sure you will remain together for life, but you test that by dating, not by "almost dating" while saying you are not dating without any reason at all.
Last but not least, did you watch the same show I did? Or maybe you watched it on chinese and it is a traduction error? Because in english subtitles, they literaly blame first FL and then when the truth comes out, the other girl, for his accident. They literaly say many times it was her fault. You having an accident while going to see somebody doesnt make the accident her fault. Ridiculous.
Was about to start this show but reading this I dont think I will. So tired of this trope. Did you already watch…
I dont mind FL doing something bad. It's usually always ML who does something bad. What I cant stand is that it's always ML who has to apologize, be it because the scriptwriters invents something bad that he does or even worse, FL does something bad and its still ML who has to apologize (like I just saw in Shine on me)
So, you are saying that after saying harsh things to ML, and MLs father being actually innocent, it's still ML who has to apologize??
Was about to start this show but reading this I dont think I will. So tired of this trope. Did you already watch…
Can you explain what actually happens? I dont mind about spoilers, I watch romance dramas for the satisfying scenes.
Im just trying to avoid another drama where ML has to apologize to FL because she is mad because of whatever. Almost every romance drama has such a scene and Im tired of it.
I watch every type of movie and show, but I watch asian dramas specifically for the romance feel-good.
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Like you say, this scene is a minor thing. I said so in my first post. I never said it ruined the show, I specified it's very short. But it is shoehorned into the plot just to do the same scene as almost every other romance drama.
If you would gather all romance dramas text, and do a count for the word "sorry" said by MLs and said by FLs, the difference in ratio wouldnt be just bigger for MLs, it would be like 50 to 1.
About point 1. Im not saying your explanation isnt true. Im saying, if you reverse the genders, FL wouldnt have needed to apologize for 6 episodes, if at all. And if I complained about it, I would be having this conversation and the other guy would be explaining to me how she was insecure about her financial situation and had a valid reason to reject him.
For point 2, either a rejection requires an apology (or earning his/her trust back after rejecting him/her) or it doesnt. Whats not right is that when ML rejects, he has to work his ass off to earn her again. But when FL does the rejection, ML again has to work his ass off to convince her.
It's 101 of double standards
Im not saying ML in you are my glory did well. But 2 things about it
1. She should indeed have been hurt and mad. But after realizing he only did it because of his insecurities, not because he didnt like her, which was about 2 episodes later, not 6, , she should have stopped being angry and talked about how she doesnt care about their money differences and fixed it
2. Same as he didnt do right because even having reason for doing so, he hurt her feelings and should apologize, FLs also hurt MLs feelings when they reject them, even having reasons for doing so, and also should apologize. But FLs get a free pass on apologies while MLs get scenes specifically invented for them to apologize
In you are my glory or any other drama where ML rejects FL with a reason "he better apologizes for 5 episodes".
I didnt even notice this trope for many dramas. But after over a hundred, I started hating it.
"it's just getting mad for heavens sake, not like she killed his cat"
I gave the drama a 9/10, im not burning her at the stake. That doesnt mean that scene is absolutly unfair towards ML, and would never ever happen if it was FL with a big lifechanging disability and depression and ML getting mad at her for an sms right when she is confronting it.
Same as in action movies or videogames the cool and strong one is usually the man, because the audience is mainly male. It happens there too, but it is recognized. Everybody knows and says those things are to cater to male fantasy. Well, romance dramas make ML apologize to cater to female guilty pleasure. Just in this case it's not often mentioned. But after 170 romance dramas, I am quite sick of the trope. Doesnt mean I still dont love the dramas
Exactly, because he is an ML pursuing FL, he needs to be thankful for her attention. But when it's FL who pursues ML, it's also ML who has to be thankful for it and even pay back, like in Hidden Love. You wouldnt see comments saying Hidden Loves FL should be the one apologizing and thanking ML, since its her doing the pursuing. Oh no, as soon as ML realizes she was pursuing her, he schemes an entire plot to "pay her back". Or in you are my glory when ML rejects FL. Yes, he also had important reasons. He did like her, but was unsecure about his financial situation and that is the only reason he rejected her. But since he is male, he has to apologize and win her back while she is mad for 6 episodes. Yet when FL rejects ML in a drama, she had important reasons, like here or in the first frost, and it just means ML has to work harder
At the end, every scene like the one we are talking about in romance dramas is a clear display of double standards.
The only way a male could have done to FL what she did to ML here, is if he was the villain sML
"Lin's accident was Ma Nianyuans fault"
(they say this many times, this is just the first I randomly found.
I think I just have the show more fresh in my memory
And the main problem wasnt getting mad without thinking about it. The problem is never apologizing about it, while ML keeps apologizing and even at the end of the scene, saying smug comments like you need to do better. It is her who needs to do better.
Imagine any other drama with oposite roles. FL having a big ass life changing problem, being depressed for years about it, having to suddenly confront it in a stressful life dependant situation.... and ML appeariong and making a scene because she didnt send an sms. Then she proves she sent it. And ML just barely forgives her while saying things like it better never happen again.
Well you cant imagine it becasue it would never happen the other way around in a romance drama.
But again, it really wasnt annoying in this show, he was too unlikeable and every action he did was against himself. With how much FL liked him, I dont think I would have been able to continue watching it if they have had cute moments together.
She wasnt mad like crazy? Oh right, because when a girl leaves without you and doesnt reply or talk to you she isnt mad like crazy right... Actually that's a step above yelling.
"it just took one text from him".... one text that proved how wrong and mean she had been. She should not have "forgiven him", she should have apologized. And not only did she not do it but she continued saying things like "you need to do better"... what the frak, you entitled brat. How dare you say that to him, who was just reminded he can never operate again, just because his text wasnt delivered to you.... Im amazed you can defend her attitude.
And about the accident, they said literally, and several times "he can never blabla again becaues of her", and "the accident was her fault". I finished the show a few hours ago and they repeat it in the last episodes again. For example when her dad is in the hoispital and her mom appears and finds out about whan happened
About the crush, I didnt say it wasnt possible. I said since the show didnt have any scene where we saw them having a nice time together, it was impossible to find it credible. Which was ridiculous but good. You wouldnt call it a love triangle? xD As soon as 2 charcaters have interest in the same charcter, its a triangle. Then it can be more or less annoying, depending on several things, like if the other person ignores the secondary lead completly, or doesnt like him but still does a lot of things with him, or even also likes him.
This triangle would have been terrible, since FL liked him too, but was saved thanks to how ridiculously unbelievable it was, because sML didnt do a single thing to be likeable. He was just pathetic, which made it not annoying.
And about the story not making any sense without the triangle, while the initial crush seems like the premise of the show, it had no real impact. If they would just sshow her final college days, and the start of the missunderstanding between the leads, everything else could have been the same removing sML.
Asian parents beating their kids? wtf of an argument is that? A guy is dieing, ML is confronting his BIG anxiety, and FL, who is an angel, suddenly gets mad like crazy because she was worried. Read the room you brat. But that wasnt the worst thing. She realizes he did send the message and it was just a delivery error.... and she does not apologize? WTF. And he continues apologizing. But this scene is normal if you watch a lot of romance dramas. Inventing a scene so ML has to apologize to FL while she is mad is the bread and butter of romance dramas, since girls are the big audience and thats a guilty pleasure. Dont look for deeper reasons, they just want to get ML apologizing like in 80% of romance dramas. Im just starting love between lines, which has the "healthy relationship" tag. Yet I bet it will have a scene where FL gets mad and ML has to apologize, like every romancedrama, let me get back to you when it probably happens.
In this drama tho it was just unexpected because FL complaining about something so small when somebody is dieing and your love is suffering from his worst fear, is pathetic.
Third point. You like to quote real life.... except when it doesnt suit you. Both know they like the other one, both know they will end up together, both have said so out loud, none of them has any reason that prevents them from getting together... Nobody in real life doesnt start dating when you are at that point. That doesnt mean you are sure you will remain together for life, but you test that by dating, not by "almost dating" while saying you are not dating without any reason at all.
Last but not least, did you watch the same show I did? Or maybe you watched it on chinese and it is a traduction error? Because in english subtitles, they literaly blame first FL and then when the truth comes out, the other girl, for his accident. They literaly say many times it was her fault.
You having an accident while going to see somebody doesnt make the accident her fault. Ridiculous.
So, you are saying that after saying harsh things to ML, and MLs father being actually innocent, it's still ML who has to apologize??
Im just trying to avoid another drama where ML has to apologize to FL because she is mad because of whatever. Almost every romance drama has such a scene and Im tired of it.