To be fair (to the writer & Jae In), there is a convo in an earlier episode between the doc and her where he asks…
In one daily, the leads in the end got a quiet divorce. Mind you, the FL wasn't the bio daughter but adopted (actually kidnapped) by villain mom and she did kill the ML's parents and in the end ended up in jail for a short while for her crimes. The leads splitting up was a surprise because they were married and were expecting. Still, they went their separate ways and it was actually the perfect ending because they stayed on as friends and co-parents.
So it isn't necessary for Dr and JaeIn to end up together. Neither is it necessary for her to develop ties to his family. The story isn't showing any of this in an organic way. Maybe they will end up showing that JaeIn is actually adopted and therefore no blood ties to Ms Choi to justify these two ending up together. 🤷
I am not sure how you could miss several reasons to stay. For one, JI in NOT moocking off. She cooks and she takes…
There is no reason for them to live in the same house; they can live in the same neighbourhood or apartment building and the same dynamics can happen -- this is how is showed in other dailys. By continuing to stay there, she does come across as a leech.
Why isn't KyungChae doing anything to really help Seri? 🤦🤦 Burying the truth does not fix things. Seri isn't some harmless puppy. She has been involved in multiple assault cases, deported and had to switch schools. SeolHui is right in recognizing that this girl will continue to harm others unless someone puts a stop to it
To be fair (to the writer & Jae In), there is a convo in an earlier episode between the doc and her where he asks…
True punishment would have been if they all knew who she was and hated her and she had to tolerate their hate. Instead, she was mooching off them and well aware of how hurt they were by DoHee's death and she said nothing. She needs to move out NOW. But who knows, the writer may see it fit to show JaeIn lacking any sense of decency and continue to stay there shamelessly -- because for some absurd reason, they all need to live in the same house. It was such an incredible relief to see Uncle mad.
So relieved to see Uncle call out how absurd it is that JaeIn is staying there. She has a job and she can get her own place. She can still collaborate with Dr whenever she wants to. There is ZERO need for her to stay in that house and it is indeed shameless for her to do so when she knows her mother has been charged with killing DoHee.
Caught up on all the episodes. For once, I love the leads and find even the side characters interesting. No one is annoying me so far!!! Yay! The music is so creepy -- worthy to be in a crime drama but then again, for a daily, this drama already seems quite dark!
Ham Eun-Jung isn't a great actress. Whoever told me that... lied to me. 💀 But it could also be the writing…
Basically this is like the ML in Cinderella Game where everyone else was out acting him in every aspect that they took over the drama.
Na Young Hee did a great job in Cinderella game as chairwoman. She was complex with good and bad decisions and her journey felt believable even if you wanted to chew her out. Hope she wins an award!
It’s the saying… it gets worse before it gets better?(I guess at the columbarium edge she visited DH, but…
See the preview and ending of today's episode. She sees photo of DoHee in Boram's photo album. So yea, she knows now. We see her with suitcase talking to Dr and it looked like she came back to the house. I was like WHAT???????????
It’s the saying… it gets worse before it gets better?(I guess at the columbarium edge she visited DH, but…
I thought Hana in Cinderella Game was bad but JaeIn is seriously missing some brains. For all she knows at the moment is that Ms Choi killed DoHee. Have the decency and move out. Instead, she is essentially a leech and staying in that house where the daughter was killed by her mother. The gall!!!! 🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️ I really hope the preview is misleading because it makes JaeIn look like an awful human being
Based on the ending of today's episode and preview, JaeIn finds out who DoHee is and instead of moving out, she is sitting in the room crying. I am sorry, what????? 🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️
Seungwoo growing a spine...? I will have to disagree...all his life was controlled by others, be it Jayeong and…
Sure, we can agree to disagree. :)
I think this drama is ultimately about hubris, resentment, entitlement and tons of secrets. I am enjoying the writer showing JaeIn as ineffective FL. It makes it more interesting. So far, I am not expecting much more JaeIn based on what is written.
I have seen tons of dailys over the years where the FL ends up not doing much and it is actually the side characters who actually solve the issue with the villains. That is why I find Aunt particularly interesting and I like the way her character is being written. This is a thinking woman even if you disagree with her decisions.
It is also possible that the writer has JaeIn actually grow and show leadership capabilities to defeat GiChan but as of now, I am doubting that.
Ultimately, this is a soap opera and I want to know what are the motivations behind Seri, GiChan,
I don't think this is just about greed or power or selfishness. Here, the motivations behind each character's decisions is far more complex and it is very often driven by resentment. Now, this is why I think there are secrets which might change the way we view some characters. Resentment cannot happen overnight but instead it looks like insidious weed and it is based on actions where someone did it intentionally or unintentionally.
Let's see. I am keeping my fingers crossed that this daily does not become like some of the others which start out strong and then limps into unbearable nonsense. So far the writing is good and I like the notes of real world logic that I can get behind.
Seungwoo growing a spine...? I will have to disagree...all his life was controlled by others, be it Jayeong and…
SeungWoo made that decision on his own. He wasn't coerced. He has been plainly told by Ms Choi repeatedly that he is not her son and she will ensure that she pushes him out. He had hope but her words confirmed it. So far, JaeIn has done nothing to show that she can move independently outside her mother. So she is a puppet. It takes courage to make a decision when you are emotionally tied to that person. So yes, he does have a spine.
So when it comes to succession battles in the real world, it does have very soap opera elements and it is entertaining for me to see the writer borrow and inject these notes.
No placeholder CEO is ever a puppet because none of them have a personality for it. So it would not be possible to find a puppet CEO. By nature, it is the sharks who rise up the corporate ladder and any CEO has ambition in spades. It is very common that these placeholder CEOs will fight back against the family to keep their place because they want to build their own legacy and so on. It then boils down to shareholder profit and annual performance.
If the CEO can show they are great, they will keep running the company while the family only has presence at the board. However, if the CEO falters and makes decisions that affect the company's performance, the family will then take the opportunity to quietly oust the CEO through shareholders. In order for them to do that, they do need to retain control over profit distribution and leadership appointment.
If they have not retained those rights or sold off their shares, then the original family becomes more or less like a glorified investors but don't have pull to influence how the company is run. This is how it plays out in the real world of business soap operas. That is why I said it is brilliant that Aunt had enough foresight to ensure the company still retains control even if they have a placeholder CEO.
Unlike other dailys where the boardroom stuff is blah, I totally enjoyed this shareholder meeting shenanigans and Aunt's role in this. It was cool, calculated and like dominoes effect, Ms Choi continues to create havoc. So JaeIn has not demonstrated that she is capable of being an independent woman who can make decisions outside of Ms Choi. She continues to be Ms Choi's puppet and enmeshed toy.
This is why SeungWoo tips over when he hears how Ms Choi talks about him. His decision to vote against JaeIn is not just about protecting his interest but also asserting that he is a Kang (even if he is supposed to be illegitimate) and he has a right to sit at that table.
SeungWoo showed a lot of spine when he told JaeIn that he is capable of making independent decision that suits him. So he did. While he feels emotional, he also understands the power of his inheritance and he is not making rash moves.
I thought it was interesting that Aunt warned JaeIn not to take advantage of SeungWoo. Aunt is giving real life world lessons. It was JaeIn who decided to liquidate her assets and it is also her decision to keep the shares. So she needs to fend for herself. Also, given the way Aunt and SeungWoo voted, they cannot stay together anyway.
Aunt is making choices for the business as she asserts to JaeIn that chairman was first her brother before he came JaeIn's father. Her loyalty is to her brother and father who built the business and she wants to make sure the company does not collapse because of JaeIn's incompetence.
It is actually a brilliant move on her part to negotiate with GiChan about profit distribution and right to nominate leadership. She then becomes a very powerful shareholder as well as board member -- she will get to control things and rein in decisions if things get well out of hand. Her goal is to protect the company and she is keeping the keys to do that.
For those wondering why I say it is brilliant, this is typical move by business families to keep the keys while they hire a management CEO to lead as a placeholder. So I appreciate the writer taking cues from real world and keeping the drama onboard.
The only thing I disliked in this episode is Dr taking JaeIn to his house. The man needs to decide whether he hates her or likes her. This kind of waffling is strange. It will be very problematic when they all find out it is JaeIn and everyone is going to be upset. If Dr had some sense, he would openly say who she is to his family.
i mean she has it coming, she's so dumb for believing for even a second that Gichan was going to give Seungwoo…
So in business families, it is always easier to kick out the outsider -- the CEO appointed by management than the family member who has gotten the seat due to bloodline. There are always issues with shares and people making decisions out of emotional loyalty and successions can get very messy.
So often in many companies, they will put in a placeholder where they hire someone like a banker or some industry insider to lead and the person is not expected to lead the company for decades.
Instead, their job is to hold the fort till someone from the family can take over. In most instances, the outsider will get a golden handshake and move on to another company. Even if they want to stay, the family will close ranks around the shareholders and the outsider CEO will get ousted. That is the kind of thinking Aunt is coming with here.
I think a better analogy would be to typical Greek tragedies in Lit where everyone is an idiot and doing stupid…
hahahha... actually train wrecks can be very fun to watch with the right crowd. :)
That said, the progress I want to see most with JaeIn is to have a healthy, independent mind and relationship that is away from her mother. She is completely enmeshed and their relationship is toxic to the point that it has impacted every area of her life.
Ms Choi will pretty much hate anyone JaeIn gets with and will always try to spoil that relationship. Instead of putting boundaries, JaeIn passively watched it happen in her first marriage and then was shocked to find that GiChan actually hates her.
However, as Dr pointed out, if GiChan was willing to hospitalize JaeIn, then the feelings left long ago. Instead, there was resentment and more. So unless JaeIn learns how to put boundaries and really observe how folks are doing, she will not grow.
Her reading people needs to come from a place of humility and not entitlement or spite. Then only she will have truly grown -- hopefully we will see that in this drama. There are some dailys where the FLs never actually learn from their mistakes and continue to be idiots till the end.
now that make sense, because indeed Jaein father intended for Seungwoo to become Chairman, so she probably is…
That is how guardianship works though -- hospitals will not entertain every relative who shows up and asks about the patient. Instead, they will only report the prognosis to the guardian. In many instances, only one person is allowed into ICU for visitation and they don't allow anyone else to visit. So relatives not being allowed to visit does happen in hospital settings. It is actually quite common.
So it isn't necessary for Dr and JaeIn to end up together. Neither is it necessary for her to develop ties to his family. The story isn't showing any of this in an organic way. Maybe they will end up showing that JaeIn is actually adopted and therefore no blood ties to Ms Choi to justify these two ending up together. 🤷
SeolHui is right in recognizing that this girl will continue to harm others unless someone puts a stop to it
The music is so creepy -- worthy to be in a crime drama but then again, for a daily, this drama already seems quite dark!
Na Young Hee did a great job in Cinderella game as chairwoman. She was complex with good and bad decisions and her journey felt believable even if you wanted to chew her out. Hope she wins an award!
I really hope the preview is misleading because it makes JaeIn look like an awful human being
I think this drama is ultimately about hubris, resentment, entitlement and tons of secrets. I am enjoying the writer showing JaeIn as ineffective FL. It makes it more interesting. So far, I am not expecting much more JaeIn based on what is written.
I have seen tons of dailys over the years where the FL ends up not doing much and it is actually the side characters who actually solve the issue with the villains. That is why I find Aunt particularly interesting and I like the way her character is being written. This is a thinking woman even if you disagree with her decisions.
It is also possible that the writer has JaeIn actually grow and show leadership capabilities to defeat GiChan but as of now, I am doubting that.
Ultimately, this is a soap opera and I want to know what are the motivations behind Seri, GiChan,
I don't think this is just about greed or power or selfishness. Here, the motivations behind each character's decisions is far more complex and it is very often driven by resentment. Now, this is why I think there are secrets which might change the way we view some characters. Resentment cannot happen overnight but instead it looks like insidious weed and it is based on actions where someone did it intentionally or unintentionally.
Let's see. I am keeping my fingers crossed that this daily does not become like some of the others which start out strong and then limps into unbearable nonsense. So far the writing is good and I like the notes of real world logic that I can get behind.
So when it comes to succession battles in the real world, it does have very soap opera elements and it is entertaining for me to see the writer borrow and inject these notes.
No placeholder CEO is ever a puppet because none of them have a personality for it. So it would not be possible to find a puppet CEO. By nature, it is the sharks who rise up the corporate ladder and any CEO has ambition in spades. It is very common that these placeholder CEOs will fight back against the family to keep their place because they want to build their own legacy and so on. It then boils down to shareholder profit and annual performance.
If the CEO can show they are great, they will keep running the company while the family only has presence at the board. However, if the CEO falters and makes decisions that affect the company's performance, the family will then take the opportunity to quietly oust the CEO through shareholders. In order for them to do that, they do need to retain control over profit distribution and leadership appointment.
If they have not retained those rights or sold off their shares, then the original family becomes more or less like a glorified investors but don't have pull to influence how the company is run. This is how it plays out in the real world of business soap operas. That is why I said it is brilliant that Aunt had enough foresight to ensure the company still retains control even if they have a placeholder CEO.
This is why SeungWoo tips over when he hears how Ms Choi talks about him. His decision to vote against JaeIn is not just about protecting his interest but also asserting that he is a Kang (even if he is supposed to be illegitimate) and he has a right to sit at that table.
SeungWoo showed a lot of spine when he told JaeIn that he is capable of making independent decision that suits him. So he did. While he feels emotional, he also understands the power of his inheritance and he is not making rash moves.
I thought it was interesting that Aunt warned JaeIn not to take advantage of SeungWoo. Aunt is giving real life world lessons. It was JaeIn who decided to liquidate her assets and it is also her decision to keep the shares. So she needs to fend for herself. Also, given the way Aunt and SeungWoo voted, they cannot stay together anyway.
Aunt is making choices for the business as she asserts to JaeIn that chairman was first her brother before he came JaeIn's father. Her loyalty is to her brother and father who built the business and she wants to make sure the company does not collapse because of JaeIn's incompetence.
It is actually a brilliant move on her part to negotiate with GiChan about profit distribution and right to nominate leadership. She then becomes a very powerful shareholder as well as board member -- she will get to control things and rein in decisions if things get well out of hand. Her goal is to protect the company and she is keeping the keys to do that.
For those wondering why I say it is brilliant, this is typical move by business families to keep the keys while they hire a management CEO to lead as a placeholder. So I appreciate the writer taking cues from real world and keeping the drama onboard.
The only thing I disliked in this episode is Dr taking JaeIn to his house. The man needs to decide whether he hates her or likes her. This kind of waffling is strange. It will be very problematic when they all find out it is JaeIn and everyone is going to be upset. If Dr had some sense, he would openly say who she is to his family.
So often in many companies, they will put in a placeholder where they hire someone like a banker or some industry insider to lead and the person is not expected to lead the company for decades.
Instead, their job is to hold the fort till someone from the family can take over. In most instances, the outsider will get a golden handshake and move on to another company. Even if they want to stay, the family will close ranks around the shareholders and the outsider CEO will get ousted. That is the kind of thinking Aunt is coming with here.
That said, the progress I want to see most with JaeIn is to have a healthy, independent mind and relationship that is away from her mother. She is completely enmeshed and their relationship is toxic to the point that it has impacted every area of her life.
Ms Choi will pretty much hate anyone JaeIn gets with and will always try to spoil that relationship. Instead of putting boundaries, JaeIn passively watched it happen in her first marriage and then was shocked to find that GiChan actually hates her.
However, as Dr pointed out, if GiChan was willing to hospitalize JaeIn, then the feelings left long ago. Instead, there was resentment and more. So unless JaeIn learns how to put boundaries and really observe how folks are doing, she will not grow.
Her reading people needs to come from a place of humility and not entitlement or spite. Then only she will have truly grown -- hopefully we will see that in this drama. There are some dailys where the FLs never actually learn from their mistakes and continue to be idiots till the end.