I’m really excited to see how their first meeting in the original timeline plays out because I’m expecting it to be quite different from the second timeline. From what I’ve gathered, their initial relationship seems like it’s going to be clouded by secrecy and dishonesty. I had a hint of this when I saw Tyme stealing something from Great in the trailer. It hints that Tyme’s motives were far from straightforward from the start.
The message from the cup in Episode 3 now makes more sense in this context. It seems like Tyme was trying to apologize or make amends, something tells me that he might have played a role in Great’s cardiac arrest in the original timeline.
@Mimi (I wrote this before I realized you blocked me)If you read closely, the beginning of my post has these words…
Lmao, that was a quick turnaround from block to unblock! I realize now that I might have misinterpreted your points as more aggressive than you intended, so that’s on me. I agree that comments like those are definitely odd. I assumed you meant “in detail” in a different way when you mentioned explicit analysis.
Overall, I find myself agreeing with most of what you said. The only point where I still disagree is regarding the comments about *you know who*. I brought him up once, and things escalated quickly, but before that, at least ten other people mentioned him without any issue, so it does feel a bit personal 😭. Either way, I apologize for misreading your other points, I blocked you based on those but since I read them wrong, there is no need for that since I'm sure I'll encounter some problematic people soon enough, however you are still free to block me of course.
So, I was not going to talk about this issue but the comments are clogged with these kinda discussions every now…
The drama yesterday wasn’t centered on him specifically, it was more about people’s concerns regarding Tonkla or the screentime. Despite that, I'll address it and say his name doesn't come up daily. I mentioned him once a few days ago, and a few others did as well because of the ongoing issues, not to stir up unnecessary drama. But I censored his name because yes it’s unpleasant for some, but let’s not forget there’s always the block button.
You claim that people are speculating about actors' sexualities, but I haven't seen any of that here. If it happened, either it’s old news or I haven't came across them. And as for disrespect towards Sammon or other actors, I haven’t noticed any offensive comments but I'll agree with you on these two points.
Regarding the NC scenes, the discussions aren’t about graphic details for shock value, they’re about analyzing the deeper meaning behind each action. It’s a legitimate form of discussion, and given the explicit nature of the scenes, the analysis will naturally reflect that. Even Bible himself has pointed out the importance of these scenes and the need to pay attention to them, so dismissing such analysis as inappropriate misses the point entirely.
Now, about yesterday’s drama, I stayed out of it because, frankly, it was exhausting, and it’s frustrating that the MDL app still shows posts from blocked users. But I had to deal with it anyway. What I find troubling is the decision to label an entire fandom as “crazy” just because someone's focus doesn’t align with theirs. That’s not only dismissive but also hypocritical, especially when someone is asking for respect and consideration.
If we’re talking about safe spaces, they should apply to everyone, not just to those who agree with their perspective.
In the end, this argument is reaching a point where it’s no longer making sense. No hard feelings, but I’m going to block you for now. I’ll likely unblock you in a few days when I encounter a more problematic user since my block list is full. If you feel the need, you’re welcome to block me as well by that time.
I understand that some people might find the romantic scenes between Jes and Bible a bit awkward, and that's a valid perspective since it's all subjective. However, I personally think that the awkwardness is intentional. It’s not because the actors lack chemistry—off-screen, their dynamic is actually quite chaotic and lovely. Instead, I believe it’s a deliberate acting choice directed by the director.
Great, for instance, seems inexperienced in love. At 21, he comes across as a typical rich kid who might be more familiar with casual flings than real emotional connections. On the other hand, Tyme has been so consumed with revenge throughout his life that love likely wasn't on his mind. Even if he did think about love, it wouldn't be this complicated—falling for the son of the people who killed his family must be incredibly conflicting for him. This inner struggle likely contributes to the awkwardness we see on screen.
Great’s situation isn’t much easier either. He’s falling for the man who plans to imprison his parents. Even though he despises what his parents did, it’s not an easy situation to navigate. Their recent argument, the tension between them, and everything being revealed has only added to the awkwardness. And even before he knew who Tyme was, Great was already having intense sexual images about him in his head, which probably made things uncomfortable for him from the start.
I'm just feeling sorry for Nan and her friend Mon. That was really heartbreaking to see. Mon lose her life and…
I genuinely feel for her. Being asked to delete the evidence simply because Great requested more time from Tyme was devastating. It only reinforced her sense of isolation, she probably felt utterly alone.
In Episode 1, we witness Great's heart stopping and Tyme getting shot. Everything shown up until Episode 5 is…
We don’t know how things unfolded in the first timeline. Since Great made different choices, it’s unclear how that impacted the outcome. However, Great was in cardiac arrest and Tyme was shot, so it likely happened differently compared to the second timeline.
I sincerely hope he takes legal action against them soon, as he’s made it clear more than once that he doesn’t want to be associated with them. 😭
In any case, I hope my previous post didn’t come across as annoying, love ❤ I was just really frustrated to see them trending again and knowing that Bible has to deal with this nonsense once more. I genuinely feel for him.
I am sorry to burst ur bubble , and i do understand that this show is indeed good and intresting but not the best…
I respect that. I personally love the show and consider it the best for me as well, but I wouldn’t generalize. I know some people don’t even like it, so while it might be the best for me, it can't be the best for everyone.
Their question is ridiculous 😭, and the account was just created today. What’s going on with them? I only made the other post because I had to address how frustrating it is that they keep spamming Bible with nonsense, especially after he mentioned being mentally exhausted the last time they linked him to that person. It's incredibly frustrating.
ok now that we are into controversies again, i read few weeks before some theory on tumblr, and would like to…
Over the past two years, both the script and the cast underwent numerous revisions, leading to a story that’s now quite different from the original. Bible himself confirmed this. It’s possible that, had things stayed the same, he might have ended up in the "dominant" role, as BL fans call it because it was Biblebu**. So he might have even played the doctor, but like I said the plot was entirely different back then.
Has anyone in the comment section here actually said this or are all these comments I keep seeing on this issue…
The issue isn't solely with that individual; it's the broader social media frenzy. He's on the brink of being targeted and harassed, which naturally makes people upset, that's why the countless comments are happening. We had this sort of conversation before so I won't explain myself again on why me and other people are allowed to express ourselves regarding the actors.
The message from the cup in Episode 3 now makes more sense in this context. It seems like Tyme was trying to apologize or make amends, something tells me that he might have played a role in Great’s cardiac arrest in the original timeline.
Overall, I find myself agreeing with most of what you said. The only point where I still disagree is regarding the comments about *you know who*. I brought him up once, and things escalated quickly, but before that, at least ten other people mentioned him without any issue, so it does feel a bit personal 😭. Either way, I apologize for misreading your other points, I blocked you based on those but since I read them wrong, there is no need for that since I'm sure I'll encounter some problematic people soon enough, however you are still free to block me of course.
You claim that people are speculating about actors' sexualities, but I haven't seen any of that here. If it happened, either it’s old news or I haven't came across them. And as for disrespect towards Sammon or other actors, I haven’t noticed any offensive comments but I'll agree with you on these two points.
Regarding the NC scenes, the discussions aren’t about graphic details for shock value, they’re about analyzing the deeper meaning behind each action. It’s a legitimate form of discussion, and given the explicit nature of the scenes, the analysis will naturally reflect that. Even Bible himself has pointed out the importance of these scenes and the need to pay attention to them, so dismissing such analysis as inappropriate misses the point entirely.
Now, about yesterday’s drama, I stayed out of it because, frankly, it was exhausting, and it’s frustrating that the MDL app still shows posts from blocked users. But I had to deal with it anyway. What I find troubling is the decision to label an entire fandom as “crazy” just because someone's focus doesn’t align with theirs. That’s not only dismissive but also hypocritical, especially when someone is asking for respect and consideration.
If we’re talking about safe spaces, they should apply to everyone, not just to those who agree with their perspective.
In the end, this argument is reaching a point where it’s no longer making sense. No hard feelings, but I’m going to block you for now. I’ll likely unblock you in a few days when I encounter a more problematic user since my block list is full. If you feel the need, you’re welcome to block me as well by that time.
Great, for instance, seems inexperienced in love. At 21, he comes across as a typical rich kid who might be more familiar with casual flings than real emotional connections. On the other hand, Tyme has been so consumed with revenge throughout his life that love likely wasn't on his mind. Even if he did think about love, it wouldn't be this complicated—falling for the son of the people who killed his family must be incredibly conflicting for him. This inner struggle likely contributes to the awkwardness we see on screen.
Great’s situation isn’t much easier either. He’s falling for the man who plans to imprison his parents. Even though he despises what his parents did, it’s not an easy situation to navigate. Their recent argument, the tension between them, and everything being revealed has only added to the awkwardness. And even before he knew who Tyme was, Great was already having intense sexual images about him in his head, which probably made things uncomfortable for him from the start.
In any case, I hope my previous post didn’t come across as annoying, love ❤ I was just really frustrated to see them trending again and knowing that Bible has to deal with this nonsense once more. I genuinely feel for him.