monstersnroses

go here and check this page out:

hanzicraft dot com/lists/frequency

it helps a lot. another page i use a lot:

strokeorder dot com

I like the way korean sounds better too EXCEPT that young female trendy accent they've been doing for a few years that sounds like they have marbles and peanut butter in their mouths when they talk. If an FL has that s-korean "valley girl" accent I drop the show, I can't take it. What's worse, my aunt still watches k-dramas, so they're still always on at home, and now the young MEN are sometimes doing a light version of that accent too, aughhhhh!

My aunt can't get past the sound of Chinese, she calls it "shurshurshur" lol And it did take me some time to get over it. Now the only language that I can't manage to watch a show because it's too weird is Thai.

I WAS teaching myself Korean, i can still read it and write it and got stuck on verb conjugations. But now that I never watch k-dramas anymore, I started picking up mandarin!

I've seen lessee...about 230 chinese dramas now, so if you average each ep to about half hr, and conservatively guess that each show has 24 eps, that's very roughly about 2500 hours of chinese immersion?
And can pick out quite a bit now, but I do idly and lazily teach myself mandarin writing as I go also, dunno if that makes a difference.

But like the ones that "appear" first are at about 500-1000 hours of immersion, ones like

fun cai = let go
fun cai wa = let me go

(funny how those are easily the first phrases you learn when you watch c-dramas lollll)

wo ai ni = I love you
wo xi huan ni = i like you
she bu she = Is that not so (lit. is-not-is)
wo zhi dao = i know
wo zhi dao le = I know that
wo bu zhi dao = I don't know
wo bu zhi dao le - I don't know that
Ren = man
Lao ren = You there, men, you men there, hey somebody
yi - er- set = one two three
hao = good
mao = cat
gou = dog
ke ai = cute
chi fan = eat rice (which often just means "eat your dinner")
sha = kill
sha le = killed
sha le wo = (you will/did) k*ll me
sha le ni = (I will/did) k*ll you
sha gua = silly melon (but means silly girl, sillyhead, silly thing)

picking out words comes slower, but sentence structure is ridiculously easier than korean.

i see it, ty <3

also can someone tell me where the opening scene takes place? the whole town is jacked up and on fire and evrrybody dead and wounded... where... how.... what is going on

literally nothing else interesting to watch rn, so I'm going to try starting this in earnest this time, but wondering how many eps drop per day, I'm trying to figure out if I need to pace myself or not

The only thing i think k-dramas have over other dramas from around the world is their humor. Their "funny" is actually FUNNY AF. But c-dramas are better than other international dramas because
*better costumes and worldbuilding and style
*better fantasy
*more willing to take risks
*put out tons and tons of content so there's something for everybody
*cater to so many different kinds of tastes in what is "hot" (red flag, gray flag, green flag, toxic, healthy, unrequitted, borderline incesty, obsessive, shy and sweet, fluff, supernatural, mental illness, school, business, historical, juvenile, mature)
*not prudes about spice or craziness
*better lowkey humor
*better fight scenes
*BETTER CHEESE/GOOD-BAD
*Better episode structure and better release calendars
*faster at getting a show filmed, edited, and in the can
*less sleazy, corrupting, and gratuitous than western shows

afiac, c-dramas are the finest entertainment on the planet right now, and it looks like it's gonna stay that way for a long time, unless skorea gets their heads outta their asses and starts pumping out creative and risk taking content to try to compete.

so ironic that c-dramas are notorious for having to pass chinese censors, but k-dramas actually are way stricter in actual practice.

just try it out, you'll know almost immediately if youre gonna like it or not. if you don't feel invested by the end of ep2, drop. If you are hooked, then keep going.

dude what are you even talking about you gave love between lines a 10 lolll.

I used to watch only k-dramas, and since I discovered c-dramas I never went fully back to k-. I will still watch jang ki yong in anything, but other than that usually i skip k-dramas because i'm spoiled on c-dramas.

But this is not the one to start c-dramas on. I looked over your watchlist... there's not much on it, im assuming you have watched a bunch of other stuff besides what you have on your actual list.... but based on what you rated high from your list.... i'd say start with Blossom or The Double.

hmm, just check out my conv with springdayjk just below this, it explains what i'm trying to say without me having to type it twice <3

with respective others, yes.

> Can you tell me within how mny episodes are the fincee thingy taken care of?

For her -- not too long, maybe like 3 eps? She spends a few episodes in denial that it needs to end and you're like "whaaaaat" but that doesn't last long.
For him -- in his mind fairly quicky, it's just a matter of getting his family patriarch and his (ex)fiancee to understand this

> I am guessing for the ML, its not out of his own will but some sort of family arrangement?

Bingo

> Is he brave enough to tackle the family then?

Oh yes, he gets an ass whoopin for it and doesn't care. He's pretty defiant for her.

> How is the leads dynamic! Since you mentioned they are on and off, is it like an ambiguous entanglement or just FL pushing away ML for the most part?

Basically he's obsessed with her, so it's a matter of trying to win her heart. It's kind of hard to figure out exactly what she's thinking all the time, but at first she creates distance because they are previously engaged. After that is taken care of, then she keeps the distance because ML is a chaebol and she was raised under a cloud of debts and their status does NOT match at all. She knows his family's patriarch won't approve. So she feels like she's being toyed with by ML or that his expectations that they can just run off and be happy are not realistic like "this is too good to be true" so she keeps testing.

But this is all stuff you have to basically infer, because we don't get to see into her mind all the time as the story goes on, just glimpses.

The only thing that could stress you out is that in the very first few eps, FL knowingly cheats her fiancee. This is because A) in the first few seconds of the show, she sees HER fiance cheating on her... and B) When FL confronts fiancee about this he says "so what, you were with someone else too and I'm not jealous. This is just a business arrangement that we're getting married, and I don't care who you're with on the side, so you shouldn't care who I'm with on the side."

It is because he says this, that she agrees to (while still engaged) cheat for one night with ML... Her fiancee has all but given her his permission to do so. But she isn't comfortable with that, so after that night together between ML and FL (which happens in ep 3), she cuts it off with her fiancee as clearly as she can, she doesn't waffle and she isn't vague about it, she's very clear with him that it's off.

And yes, he spends the show chasing the sh*t out of her any way he can think of.

tysm for dropping by to check it out ❤️

We are right now on ep 17. As of this ep, what we have - in it's most basic sense so I don't ruin anything for you - is that the ML and FL start out in ep 1 having s*x while she is under the influence of an aphrodisiac drug that ML didn't give her, and she completely blacks it out. As he was sober, he did not.

So you have MANY people in comments dropping at ep 1 because of what green-flag purists are calling dategrape. I think that's taking it a little far but hey.

SO. Because that was so sudden and unexpected for both of them, they both have respective fiancees as it turns out. But they rid themselves of these fiancees pretty quickly and they aren't viewed by the script as true competition at ALL.

However they don't get together just as simple as that, they are on and off, because she is reticent to date someone with the kind of OP power imbalance he has over her. That's - in the vaguest way I can describe - sort of their basic relationship challenge. That and the fact that he's way crazier than she's giving him credit for and there will have to be a reveal.... and we don't know how she will react to that.

There's no actual "third wheel" anywhere even remotely in sight.

Let me kno if you need to know anything else. 😉

omg 💀💀💀 that's hilarious

Honestly Zhi Xin could make it look like he had organic chemistry with a paper bag.

But yeah this is literal trash, it's just that Zhi Xin is SO HOTTTT in it. That, and some very beautiful direction and camerawork, is literally all this drama has going for it.

"And the Worst FL of the Year Award goes to..."

One of my fav things about the last eps, is they replay some scenes from some of the latter episodes to kind of re-tell it from the ML's POV. So you get the montage of flashbacks. And in the flashback montage, is the scene with the FL and the bowl of rice. Because it wasn't bad enough the first time, they have to play it twice lolllll.

I think I was too nice to that FL in the review I left, but to be fair I haven't seen her in anything else, so I didn't want to get too judgy about it. But dang. What a power combo of bad bangs, bad clothes and bad acting. The cringe is so overpowering.

aaaaaaaaaaaaahahahha WOT

lolll every episode is worse than the one before, I had the EXACT same problem, by ep 17 I was like "I just don't know if I can go on", the drama is like TRYING to make you quit watching it. I did finally finish and it took all my strength to keep going to the end.

But that's really quite an achievement because I have seen Niel Diamond's The Jazz Singer like 5 times, and that movie is like a see-eye-A torture technique, to tie someone to a chair, prop their eyelids open, and make them watch The Jazz Singer over and over.

Something so bad it makes ME unable to finish without digging deep into my soul, should get some kind of award "Worst Drama Lifetime Achievement Award" or somethin.

tyssm, i'm glad you liked it! 🩷