It passed review and got its distribution license Two weeks ago,only airing date is what people are waiting for.
The OP of the thread in which you replied blocked me, so I can't see that thread when I log in, which is why I'm responding to you here.
To answer your question, I likely don't know as much as you do about what SWL went through in the industry. I'm not particularly interested in the private lives of C-drama actors, including SWL, because I mostly appreciate their acting and respect them as artists.
That said, I don't see how any of that is relevant to my argument, which was that wishing for the "downfall" of the C-ent industry is counterproductive because that would also lead to the downfall of C-dramas in general, and SWL's career in C-dramas in particular.
Ok, now that I've stated my case, I do remember something about his early struggles in the industry from an interview he gave on some kind of talk show, whose host was a lady in her 40s or 50s, I guess.
This was a few years ago when I first got into C-dramas, so I don't recall the exact details partly because it's been a while, but mostly because my Chinese isn't very good, especially back then.
As I said earlier, I don't like digging into the private lives of Chinese actors or any other celebrities, but SWL's interview came up in my YouTube algorithm (probably because I was watching Go Ahead at the time).
IIRC, SWL put a lot of pressure on himself to succeed as an actor because he wanted to help support his working-class family who were struggling financially. Apparently, it got so bad that he was losing sleep and his sister had to come stay with him to help ease his anxiety, not to mention transition into the industry. But he got a support role within a year and a starring role within two years in the industry.
But that's neither here nor there with respect to my argument, which is that the wished for "downfall" of the C-ent industry isn't going to do SWL any good.
Yes, but Go Ahead is an emsemble piece. Why are you making this out to be some sort of personal conspiracy against SWL?
To be honest, out of the 3 sibling leads, he gave the relatively weakest performance. Heck, the two actors who played his biological & foster father also did a better job. This is perfectly understandable because he came from a martial, not theatrical arts background.
That said, SWL has come a long way (pun intended) since GA. But even then, he isn't literally the most watched modern Chinese idol drama actor.
Let's support SWL, but not be "fanatic" about it like his haters.
The C-ent industry offered SWL leading roles from the start, despite the fact that he had no formal acting training, while he was still learning on the job. It nurtured his growth into the good actor we see today.
How would its downfall help anyone, including SWL? He would be out of a job. And you wouldn't be able to see his dramas anymore.
Did the C-ent industry manipulate the Netflix numbers as well?
There's plenty of hard historical evidence that Epstein & his inner circle have caused and engaged in sexual violence and assault against women, long prior to any knowledge or leaks of the Epstein files.
In light of Trump's history of serial sexual violence against women, young and old, not to mention other sexist and misogynist behaviors, you're comparing apples to oranges. Your analogy is so much a difference in degree that it's de facto a difference in kind.
At the end of the day, you're just rationalizing your lack of necessarily & sufficient evidence, let alone definitive proof.
You made the allegations, so the burden of proof completely lies on you. Nothing you've provided meets any reasonable standard of proof, or even decent evidence.
Lily Alice is a koreaboo whose entire MDL watchlist is made up of k-dramas. And you seriously think she's doing…
(1) This is the first sentence of my post to which you're replying: "FOR THE SAKE OF PUBLIC RECORD [my bold], ZLH is not my 'idol.'" I wasn't claiming non-trivial relevance but only making a statement of fact (as a matter of public record), so that anyone (not necessarily you) reading this exchange knows where I'm coming from.
(2) I've already explained more than once why I found your analogy to be oddly inappropriate. There's no need for you to keep restating your position in slightly different ways. I'm still not convinced.
(3) I don't wish to talk too much about your alleged claims of "racism" and "misogyny" because it'd detract from the issue of alleged ratings manipulation. But I'll give my two cents worth, since you brought it up.
Again, I'll state the following as a matter of public record. I'm not claiming any direct relevance. Aside from the fact that I idolize no one, including ZLH, I am a straight cis male, so I don't think my take is biased (at least not in the way that ZLH critics accuse ZLH supporters of being).
If you take his comment for what it is at face value, there's nothing remotely racist about what he said. Even if you try to infer his intentions (insofar as an off-handed remark can even be intentional), at worst you could say that his comment was insensitive, maybe even offensive. But aside from trivializing real racism, it's incorrect. Racism, strictly defined, involves intentional discrimination or persecution based on an (institutionalized) imbalance of power and authority.
Intent is critical. There's no evidence that ZLH was (intentionally) trying to cause any real or imagined harm to SE Asians. Nor is he even in a position to discriminate against SE Asians in any meaningful way. For example, he can't deny them entry into the workplace or university. Nor can he stop them from voting, getting a fair trial, peaceably assemble, etc. He definitely can't make them sit at the back of the proverbial bus. Nothing he said could possibly prevent SE Asians from their pursuit of life, liberty, happiness, etc.
The next move for ZLH critics would probably be to accuse him of "casual racism" (yet another trendy buzzword free of any meaningful substance & content). But then again, I could easily accuse them of casually throwing the word "racism" around.
The allegation of "misogyny" is even weaker. How do you know he said what he did re: Interstellar because his interviewer happens to be a woman? He's a physics & aerospace engineering nerd, so he probably thinks 99%+ of the population wouldn't fully understand the science behind Interstellar, about which he's probably right. You made the default & unwarranted assumption (of "mansplaining") that his response was "mysogynist" just because he responded to a woman. But the interviewer also likely makes less money than him. So why not accuse him of "classism" instead? That'd be just as arbitrary and unfair, but it never occurred to you to do so because that didn't invoke your confimation bias.
(4) What part of "[b]ut this is neither here nor there with respect to ZLH" didnt you understand?
You're the one who "lmao at how this article used highfalutin words to describe the state of China-Taiwan relations." All did was try to objectively explain why. I'm hardly a fan of the article's author, let alone her geopolitical takes.
Lily Alice is a koreaboo whose entire MDL watchlist is made up of k-dramas. And you seriously think she's doing…
(1) For the sake of public record, ZLH is not my "idol." I don't have any idols. As a C-drama fan, I support him to the extent that I'd support any other C-drama actors.
(2) I honestly didn't mean to insult you. Admittedly, I was less than tactful in the heat of the argument, which I regret.
(3) No one said that comparisons are equivalences. I just thought that the analogy was kind of bizarre, given that the behavior of the Trump cult is a serious matter and that of the ZLH fanbase or pr team isn't (to me at least). Not to mention, this isn't the analogy that I found most problematic. It was your attempt to compare yourself with the Epstein victims.
(4) Actually, the semiconductor chips are relevant to China-Taiwan relations. Given that the US has pressured the Dutch semiconductor company ASML to restrict exports of its EUV lithography machines to China, it is very difficult for China to (high-yield) mass-produce chips as tiny, dense, and energy-efficient as those manufactured by Taiwan's TSMC, which is also being pressured by the US to restrict its exports to China. Basically, there are too many moving parts to ASML's EUV technology for China to reverse-engineer equally effective lithography machines.
To make a long story short, this gives Taiwan (and by extension, the US) leverage in their negotiations with China. But this is neither here nor there with respect to the ZLH situation.
Your observation is on point; I couldn't quite put it as eloquently.
What I appreciate about Li Xian's acting is its range & versatility. LX is essentially a character actor in a leading man.
If you're interested in modern cdramas, I'd recommend Meet Yourself.
To answer your question, I likely don't know as much as you do about what SWL went through in the industry. I'm not particularly interested in the private lives of C-drama actors, including SWL, because I mostly appreciate their acting and respect them as artists.
That said, I don't see how any of that is relevant to my argument, which was that wishing for the "downfall" of the C-ent industry is counterproductive because that would also lead to the downfall of C-dramas in general, and SWL's career in C-dramas in particular.
Ok, now that I've stated my case, I do remember something about his early struggles in the industry from an interview he gave on some kind of talk show, whose host was a lady in her 40s or 50s, I guess.
This was a few years ago when I first got into C-dramas, so I don't recall the exact details partly because it's been a while, but mostly because my Chinese isn't very good, especially back then.
As I said earlier, I don't like digging into the private lives of Chinese actors or any other celebrities, but SWL's interview came up in my YouTube algorithm (probably because I was watching Go Ahead at the time).
IIRC, SWL put a lot of pressure on himself to succeed as an actor because he wanted to help support his working-class family who were struggling financially. Apparently, it got so bad that he was losing sleep and his sister had to come stay with him to help ease his anxiety, not to mention transition into the industry. But he got a support role within a year and a starring role within two years in the industry.
But that's neither here nor there with respect to my argument, which is that the wished for "downfall" of the C-ent industry isn't going to do SWL any good.
I'd also recommend A Dream of Splendor & Flourished Peony.
This is a public forum, not your private home, so I can say whatever the heck I want.
If you want to be immune to criticism, if you can even call it that, don't post in a public forum and keep your thoughts to yourself.
As for blocking me, is that a promise or a threat?
To be honest, out of the 3 sibling leads, he gave the relatively weakest performance. Heck, the two actors who played his biological & foster father also did a better job. This is perfectly understandable because he came from a martial, not theatrical arts background.
That said, SWL has come a long way (pun
intended) since GA. But even then, he isn't literally the most watched modern Chinese idol drama actor.
Let's support SWL, but not be "fanatic" about it like his haters.
How would its downfall help anyone, including SWL? He would be out of a job. And you wouldn't be able to see his dramas anymore.
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In light of Trump's history of serial sexual violence against women, young and old, not to mention other sexist and misogynist behaviors, you're comparing apples to oranges. Your analogy is so much a difference in degree that it's de facto a difference in kind.
At the end of the day, you're just rationalizing your lack of necessarily & sufficient evidence, let alone definitive proof.
You made the allegations, so the burden of proof completely lies on you. Nothing you've provided meets any reasonable standard of proof, or even decent evidence.
(2) I've already explained more than once why I
found your analogy to be oddly inappropriate. There's no need for you to keep restating your position in slightly different ways. I'm still not convinced.
(3) I don't wish to talk too much about your alleged claims of "racism" and "misogyny" because it'd detract from the issue of alleged ratings manipulation. But I'll give my two cents worth, since you brought it up.
Again, I'll state the following as a matter of public record. I'm not claiming any direct relevance. Aside from the fact that I idolize no one, including ZLH, I am a straight cis male, so I don't think my take is biased (at least not in the way that ZLH critics accuse ZLH supporters of being).
If you take his comment for what it is at face value, there's nothing remotely racist about what he said. Even if you try to infer his intentions (insofar as an off-handed remark can even be intentional), at worst you could say that his comment was insensitive, maybe even offensive. But aside from trivializing real racism, it's incorrect. Racism, strictly defined, involves intentional discrimination or persecution based on an (institutionalized) imbalance of power and authority.
Intent is critical. There's no evidence that ZLH was (intentionally) trying to cause any real or imagined harm to SE Asians. Nor is he even in a position to discriminate against SE Asians in any meaningful way. For example, he can't deny them entry into the workplace or university. Nor can he stop them from voting, getting a fair trial, peaceably assemble, etc. He definitely can't make them sit at the back of the proverbial bus. Nothing he said could possibly prevent SE Asians from their pursuit of life, liberty, happiness, etc.
The next move for ZLH critics would probably be to accuse him of "casual racism" (yet another trendy buzzword free of any meaningful substance & content). But then again, I could easily accuse them of casually throwing the word "racism" around.
The allegation of "misogyny" is even weaker. How do you know he said what he did re: Interstellar because his interviewer happens to be a woman? He's a physics & aerospace engineering nerd, so he probably thinks 99%+ of the population wouldn't fully understand the science behind Interstellar, about which he's probably right. You made the default & unwarranted assumption (of "mansplaining") that his response was "mysogynist" just because he responded to a woman. But the interviewer also likely makes less money than him. So why not accuse him of "classism" instead? That'd be just as arbitrary and unfair, but it never occurred to you to do so because that didn't invoke your confimation bias.
(4) What part of "[b]ut this is neither here nor there with respect to ZLH" didnt you understand?
You're the one who "lmao at how this article used highfalutin words to describe the state of China-Taiwan relations." All did was try to objectively explain why. I'm hardly a fan of the article's author, let alone her geopolitical takes.
Are you saying that ZLH's pr team has infiltrated MDL? Or that MDL editors have been ZLH apologists all along?
(2) I honestly didn't mean to insult you. Admittedly, I was less than tactful in the heat of the argument, which I regret.
(3) No one said that comparisons are equivalences. I just thought that the analogy was kind of bizarre, given that the behavior of the Trump cult is a serious matter and that of the ZLH fanbase or pr team isn't (to me at least). Not to mention, this isn't the analogy that I found most problematic. It was your attempt to compare yourself with the Epstein victims.
(4) Actually, the semiconductor chips are relevant to China-Taiwan relations. Given that the US has pressured the Dutch semiconductor company ASML to restrict exports of its EUV lithography machines to China, it is very difficult for China to (high-yield) mass-produce chips as tiny, dense, and energy-efficient as those manufactured by Taiwan's TSMC, which is also being pressured by the US to restrict its exports to China. Basically, there are too many moving parts to ASML's EUV technology for China to reverse-engineer equally effective lithography machines.
To make a long story short, this gives Taiwan (and
by extension, the US) leverage in their negotiations with China. But this is neither here nor there with respect to the ZLH situation.
Hope you have positive thoughts, too!
She definitely took a deep breath to be able to say both things at once, but I truly wonder what kind of thoughts occupy her head.