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Replying to Ikkyvicky Feb 4, 2026
Title Honour
cheating is a unfortunately a harsh part of life and it’s not even central to the main plot. Just a side plot…
Interesting how disagreement suddenly becomes “spoiling it for everyone” and criticism turns into “you’re missing the point.” That’s not winning an argument — that’s shutting one down when it stops being comfortable.

Dismissing my view doesn’t make it invalid, it just makes it inconvenient for you. Calling it “skewed perception” without actually addressing the points I raised is not engaging with the argument, it’s declaring intellectual superiority and walking away. That’s not analysis, that’s avoidance.

And no, focusing on one character does not make an argument invalid when that character is positioned as a moral lead and a professional defender of victims. Characters don’t exist in a vacuum, and calling betrayal a “slight judgment error” minimizes choices that the story itself gives serious screen time to. If it’s important enough to show, it’s important enough to critique.

You say you see the “overall picture,” but an overall picture is made of individual actions. Ignoring contradictions because they don’t fit a preferred reading isn’t maturity — it’s selective interpretation.

Ending a conversation by declaring the other person incapable of understanding isn’t strength, and it isn’t confidence. It’s just a refusal to tolerate a different opinion.

If being a “strong woman” means dismissing dissent instead of responding to it, then that strength is fragile.
I don’t need your approval for my argument to stand — and you don’t need to invalidate mine to keep enjoying the drama.

You’re free to disengage.
But disagreement does not equal inferiority, and criticism does not equal ignorance.
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Replying to oppa_ Feb 4, 2026
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No—cheating is not “a part of life.”Cheating is a part of some people’s choices. There’s a difference.Normalizing…
Calling me a “bot” doesn’t make your argument stronger, it just avoids engaging with what I’m actually saying.
English is not my first language. I use AI to translate or structure my thoughts so you can understand them. If English is the gate you’re putting on “freedom of speech,” then maybe ask yourself who that gate really serves. Ideas don’t become invalid because of the tool used to express them.

Now, to the actual issue — and this is where your defense falls apart.

I understand the difference between portrayal and approval. I’m not asking fiction to spell out a moral lesson or ban uncomfortable topics. My problem is how this cheating is portrayed and who is doing it.

This character cheats with shocking ease.
No real internal conflict.
No visible moral struggle.
No meaningful consequences in how the narrative treats her.

That matters.

She isn’t some morally gray side character — she is framed as a hero, a protector of victims, someone the audience is expected to root for. Yet she:

cheats on her husband without hesitation

is still emotionally attached to her ex after seven years

cries more for her ex than shows any respect for her marriage

defends her ex as “innocent” while dismissing her own client’s rape allegation

accepts an unconsented kiss from a married standpoint with barely any response

is surrounded by friends who hide her cheating and don’t even acknowledge her husband

At some point, this stops being “exploring consequences” and starts being moral incoherence.

You say the drama shows what happens when vows are broken — but where are those consequences?
As a viewer, why am I expected to root for her success when she has no moral compass even for herself?

This is not about discomfort. It’s about credibility.

How am I supposed to believe she can judge right and wrong in court when she cannot apply the same standards to her own life? How am I supposed to believe she fiercely protects women when she instinctively protects the man she loves — even against another woman’s testimony?

Her ex kisses her without consent, knowing she is married.
They haven’t met for seven years.
Yet she immediately trusts him enough to believe he could never rape someone — while doubting her own client.

That isn’t “complexity.” That’s bias, and a dangerous one.

And yes, this portrayal does disturb me — not because cheating exists in fiction, but because:

loyalty is treated as optional

accountability is outsourced to “life is messy”

and a working married woman is written as someone who collapses morally the moment her ex reappears

If you want to explore cheating, fine.
If you want to explore hypocrisy, fine.
But don’t ask viewers to cheer for someone while refusing to seriously interrogate her actions.

Rejecting cheating while criticizing how it’s framed is not asking for censorship.
It’s asking for better writing and honest moral weight.

And that’s a completely valid criticism — no matter what language I speak it in.
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Replying to Ikkyvicky Feb 4, 2026
Title Honour Spoiler
cheating is a unfortunately a harsh part of life and it’s not even central to the main plot. Just a side plot…
drama will excess her and her action even if she become pregnant with her dead ex.
she will fight her best to prove her ex was innocent and she did a cool deed cheating on her husband...
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Replying to Ikkyvicky Feb 4, 2026
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cheating is a unfortunately a harsh part of life and it’s not even central to the main plot. Just a side plot…
nd let’s talk about the so-called “strong woman” writing here.
If a woman is introduced as independent, powerful, and principled, but instantly becomes emotionally weak and submissive the moment her ex shows up, what exactly is the message? That her strength was never real — just a performance. That authority at work is a costume she takes off in front of a man from her past.

That doesn’t portray complexity. It portrays fake empowerment.

What this framing really says is that a woman can climb professionally, but the moment she tastes success or power, she must lose emotional control, moral clarity, and respect for her marriage. As if success outside automatically leads to disrespect inside the home. That’s not realism — that’s a recycled stereotype dressed up as “modern writing.”

And no, disrespecting your husband is not a prerequisite for being a strong woman.
If strength requires looking down on your partner, crossing boundaries, or humiliating the person who trusts you, then that strength is hollow. Real strength includes loyalty, self-control, and the ability to say no — especially when temptation shows up wearing a familiar face.

There’s another glaring hypocrisy you’re ignoring.
Her profession is literally to defend victims of sexual abuse, yet the story shows her submitting to an unconsented kiss without resistance, consequence, or even serious self-reflection. What does that imply? That consent suddenly becomes flexible when the man is an ex? That professional ethics vanish when emotions are involved?

That doesn’t just weaken her character — it undermines the very cause she represents. It sends a deeply confused message: that a woman can advocate consent in court but suspend it in her personal life without accountability.

So no, this isn’t about viewers being “uncomfortable.”
It’s about writing that claims to uplift women while quietly reinforcing the idea that:

strong women are only strong until a man tests them

working women lose respect for their husbands

success makes women unstable rather than grounded

loyalty and ambition can’t coexist

Women who actually live balanced, loyal, high-pressure professional lives exist in the real world every day. Erasing them while repeatedly showcasing betrayal as “depth” isn’t progressive — it’s lazy, cynical storytelling.

If this is supposed to be empowerment, it’s a very shallow version of it.
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Replying to Ikkyvicky Feb 4, 2026
Title Honour
cheating is a unfortunately a harsh part of life and it’s not even central to the main plot. Just a side plot…
Stop dressing this up as “pressure” or “complexity.”
Work pressure doesn’t tell anyone to go meet an ex in the middle of the night.
Work pressure doesn’t tell someone to go to his house instead of a public place.
Work pressure doesn’t tell someone to undress, cross physical boundaries, or sleep with their ex while their spouse is at home waiting.

Those are deliberate personal choices, not abstract forces acting on her body.

And yes, you are excusing her. The moment you blur the line between circumstance and responsibility, you turn cheating into something that “happens” rather than something someone does.

This portrayal is insulting to working women who stay loyal and still succeed through competence, discipline, and talent — not emotional dependency or sexual access to men from their past. When fiction repeatedly ties a woman’s career stress to sexual betrayal, it reinforces the ugliest stereotype: that professional success and marital loyalty can’t coexist for women.

You say “it’s just one flawed character,” but look at the pattern.
Out of three female leads, only one is married — and she cheats.
So the only example of a working wife is shown as disloyal. That’s not neutral storytelling; that’s messaging, intentional or not.

Men cheating in dramas doesn’t carry the same implication because men are not historically accused of being unfit for marriage once they work or gain power. Women are. Context matters.

No one is asking fiction to avoid uncomfortable behavior. The issue is selective discomfort — when the only working married woman is written as morally compromised, while loyalty is quietly removed from the picture altogether.

Rejecting cheating isn’t flattening women into moral symbols.
Excusing it under vague ideas like “pressure” is what strips women of agency and accountability.

This doesn’t humanize women.
It reduces them — and that’s why it’s not “misread,” it’s rightly criticized.
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Replying to InspectorMegre Feb 4, 2026
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my personal experience is that the rich suck up to each other.... stick to each other .... and will NOT make any…
rich girl play goodie two shoes. with her criminal girl friends.
pretending to be lawyers.
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Replying to Nope Not Here Feb 4, 2026
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I love love love that one of the leads uses her privilage and connections (of being the daughter of a powerful…
nepo kid playing pro bono under her moms skirt... with her cheater lawyers,
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Replying to 10274781 Feb 4, 2026
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i was praying that they wouldn’t continue the cheating subplot for the next episodes but he’s dead so it’s…
he isnt dead he lives within fl will be born again
she got impregnated.
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Replying to InspectorMegre Feb 4, 2026
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Would you please tell me, what taboo topics is this exploring? Thank you. (As I am reading the comments wondering…
STRONG WOMAN WHO JUST STRIP HER CLOTHES IF HER EX KISSES HER ?
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Replying to bakutwice Feb 4, 2026
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THE FIRST EPISODE LEFT SUCH A HUGE IMPRESSION ON ME! they were able to introduce so many "taboo" topics…
STRONG WOMAN SUBMIT TO HER EX BOYFRIEND KISS AND CHEAT ON HER HUSBAND ?
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Replying to bakutwice Feb 4, 2026
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THE FIRST EPISODE LEFT SUCH A HUGE IMPRESSION ON ME! they were able to introduce so many "taboo" topics…
She never moved on. She married another man while emotionally stuck in the past, cheated the moment she got the chance, and then acted like confusion excuses betrayal. That’s not tragedy, that’s manipulation.

The worst part isn’t even the cheating — it’s how the story bends reality to protect her. If she gets pregnant from that one-night stand, the narrative will sanctify her, pressure the husband to accept it, and call it “growth.” No accountability, no consequences, just moral gymnastics because she’s a lead character.

Swap the genders and this character would be labeled a villain instantly. Instead, the writers expect applause for behavior they’d condemn in anyone else. That’s not complex storytelling — it’s cowardly writing hiding behind sympathy.
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Replying to kat Feb 4, 2026
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I could barely accept that she went back to her ex in such a ridiculous way, but I was even more shocked that…
She never moved on. She married another man while emotionally stuck in the past, cheated the moment she got the chance, and then acted like confusion excuses betrayal. That’s not tragedy, that’s manipulation.

The worst part isn’t even the cheating — it’s how the story bends reality to protect her. If she gets pregnant from that one-night stand, the narrative will sanctify her, pressure the husband to accept it, and call it “growth.” No accountability, no consequences, just moral gymnastics because she’s a lead character.

Swap the genders and this character would be labeled a villain instantly. Instead, the writers expect applause for behavior they’d condemn in anyone else. That’s not complex storytelling — it’s cowardly writing hiding behind sympathy.
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Replying to TusharRahangdale Feb 4, 2026
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Brother watch second episode she slept with him ,she cheated on her husband
THEY ARE FIGHT FOR WOMANS RIGHTS TO CHEAT AND GET AWAY WITH IT.
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Replying to sentidos Feb 4, 2026
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i hope Hwang tells her husband she was kissed by her ex and doesn’t drag it out😪
NOT JUST KISSING
SHE GOT IMPREGNATED,, GREAT OFFSPRING OF JOURNALISM,
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Replying to InspectorMegre Feb 4, 2026
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OK this is attacking the "modern" version of giseangs, a lot more sinister version. And so it is addressing…
a working woman cannot succeed without sexual compromise,

professional advancement is tied to using her body instead of skill,

loyalty collapses the moment work pressure appears,

then yes, the message becomes deeply regressive.

It starts to suggest that:

a working woman can’t be trusted in marriage

ambition and loyalty can’t coexist

talent alone is not enough for women

That is not realism.
That is old-fashioned misogyny repackaged as “modern complexity.”
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Replying to Drishti Agrawal Feb 4, 2026
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how's the drama?
a working woman cannot succeed without sexual compromise,

professional advancement is tied to using her body instead of skill,

loyalty collapses the moment work pressure appears,

then yes, the message becomes deeply regressive.

It starts to suggest that:

a working woman can’t be trusted in marriage

ambition and loyalty can’t coexist

talent alone is not enough for women

That is not realism.
That is old-fashioned misogyny repackaged as “modern complexity.”
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Replying to Hehe Feb 4, 2026
Title Honour
this drama is so good damn like fucking good if anybody is reading the comments and thinking if they should watch…
a working woman cannot succeed without sexual compromise,

professional advancement is tied to using her body instead of skill,

loyalty collapses the moment work pressure appears,

then yes, the message becomes deeply regressive.

It starts to suggest that:

a working woman can’t be trusted in marriage

ambition and loyalty can’t coexist

talent alone is not enough for women

That is not realism.
That is old-fashioned misogyny repackaged as “modern complexity.”
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Replying to Nope Not Here Feb 4, 2026
Title Honour
The way my heart breaks for Yoojung (and all those other poor girls). It's truly sickening what they are going…
AND HER LAWYERS ? NOT DEFENDING ABOUT ABUSING HER...
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Replying to Nope Not Here Feb 4, 2026
Title Honour
The way my heart breaks for Yoojung (and all those other poor girls). It's truly sickening what they are going…
a working woman cannot succeed without sexual compromise,

professional advancement is tied to using her body instead of skill,

loyalty collapses the moment work pressure appears,

then yes, the message becomes deeply regressive.

It starts to suggest that:

a working woman can’t be trusted in marriage

ambition and loyalty can’t coexist

talent alone is not enough for women

That is not realism.
That is old-fashioned misogyny repackaged as “modern complexity.”
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On Honour Feb 4, 2026
Title Honour
The premiere of Honour attempts to sell itself as a bold manifesto for female empowerment, but within sixty minutes, it manages to undermine its own message through staggering hypocrisy and tired tropes. The show introduces us to a trio of "independent" women, but a closer look reveals that their independence is either bankrolled by others or used as a shield for moral failure.

The "Independent" CEO

First, we have Kang Sin Jae. While the show paints her as the visionary CEO of a pro bono law firm, the illusion of the self-made woman shatters immediately upon the revelation that her mother is the one holding the purse strings. There is a fundamental disconnect in trying to portray a character as a rebel when she is essentially a "nepo-boss" playing office. The "rebellious old woman" act feels less like a stand against the patriarchy and more like a refusal to grow up, with her behavior mimicking a schoolgirl rather than a serious legal mind.

The Hypocrisy of Hwang Hyeon Jin

The most egregious failure of the premiere lies with Hwang Hyeon Jin. The production description builds her up as an "elegant, fiery lawyer" who "resists anything that goes against her principles." However, the pilot episode immediately proves this to be a lie, portraying her instead as a textbook example of unprofessionalism.

Hyeon Jin is presented as a champion for rape victims, yet the show creates a bizarre double standard regarding her own "principles":

The Professionalism Paradox: The show explicitly demonstrates why this character cannot be trusted with a professional work-life. Hyeon Jin chooses to visit her ex-boyfriend’s house at night under the guise of "discussing work." This framing suggests that her career is merely a backdrop for providing sexual favors or pursuing personal whims. It raises a devastating question: can a woman who uses her body to "work around" her personal life truly be called a professional? By depicting her work meetings as precursors to infidelity, the show plays into the very regressive stereotypes that suggest women cannot separate their emotions or bodies from their offices.

The Cheating Double Standard: The narrative frames her extramarital affair with her ex-lover as a side-effect of her "working woman" persona. When confronted, she resorts to the weak defense of "not being in her right mind." This is a continuous lie. Cheating is not a single accidental moment; it is a series of active, conscious choices—from going to the house, to the physical escalation, to the completion of the act while knowing her loyal husband is waiting at home. She looked very much "in her mind" when making these choices. The show’s attempt to make the audience root for her "regret" after the fact is insulting, especially since she didn't stop the encounter midway once her "mind" supposedly returned.

The Consent Contradiction: For a character who defends victims of sexual violence, her interaction with her ex-boyfriend is alarming. She is portrayed as submissive, essentially allowing herself to be "forced" into a situation she later claims to regret, all while pretending to be a legal shield for female victims. This suggests the show believes wrongdoing has no consequences as long as the lead is a "pseudo-feminist" woman.

Final Verdict: Fake "Woke" Garbage

Honour claims to be about strength, but it reeks of "woke" garbage and fake feminism. It presents characters who are morally inconsistent and structurally dependent on the systems they claim to hate. By justifying a wife's betrayal and lack of professional ethics as "cool" or "empowering" while condemning men for the same, the show isn't empowering women—it’s portraying them as untrustworthy and hypocritical.

If the goal was to show why some people still hold regressive views about women in the workplace, this script is doing a perfect job of providing the wrong evidence.
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