somerisebycyn

I gave a response elsewhere in this thread that kind of addresses your pointe and I don't want to repeat myself.

IMHO nepotism will never be eradicated in the entertainment industry because so much of it is subjective and requires you to be in the right room at the right time with people in the right mood and luck on your side. Imo time also isn't a good enough reason to give someone a role. Work isn't just bit parts or supporting roles and you don't see all the work that anyone puts into any role so that's why I focus on the end product and what their performances look like when they're done. If they're good they clearly didn't just roll out of bed and expect everything to be fine. And imo the villain at least gave a compelling enough performance to believe she put the work in to understand the character she was playing.

The thing is with things like talent you'll never know how much is "innate" and how much is "work". If you have family in the industry they will Inevitably give you opportunities to hone your talents and to learn techniques, behaviours etc that people who don't have connections won't so the in a blind casting call you could still get the part off the advantage your family has given you even if noone knows your face or name.

OP seems very focused on having small credits as evidence of work but that's not necessarily the case and just because someone has paid their dues doesn't mean they're going to be the right fit for a given project and I think the idea that someone is "owed" a part just through the span of time doesn't really sit right with me either.

That's why at the end of the day imo we have to focus on their performances and what they've actually brought to the role. As you said the actresses they named did a good job in the role especially the actress playing our villain. She really got me to despise her smarminess and hypocrisy but still sold enough feigned innocence that I could see how outside eyes would miss how terrible she was. If they were bad then I would definitely support the derision of their nepotism.

I'm not sure a neutral party would read what we've both written and come to the conclusion that *I'm* the one bringing the dramatics. Your opening lines alone are full of drama. It may be worth doing some self reflection on why you're projecting "excessive emotion" onto what I've written.

Haha, excessive emotions? 😂 Okay, I realise now I was getting in a good faith discussion with a person speaking in bad faith. Continue on with whatever this is, I guess.

"Proudly show this sickness"? Every single character who was a bully or even just acted as a bystander was not portrayed in a positive or aspirational light. The system was shown as corrupt and the participants shown as hypocrites and abusers. Even those who had rough upbringings the story made SURE to explain that this is not reason enough. Making the choice to put your pain on to others makes you a bad person and you cannot put the blame on to the bad things that have happened to you full stop. The bystanders took ownership of their faults including the one person they could have been like oh no she's innocent she helped WJ - Yerim says out loud, I stood by i should also receive repercussions. This is not glorification, friend.



I get it, you're not a fan of the genre but to say they were glorifying would literally need them to have portrayed even one aspect of this in a positive or pretty light. They did not.

Yes exactly. The entertainment industry is always going to be about connections because there are more talented people out there than there are the roles for them. But so long as those who get the roles do a good job, fit the part and don't leave only a monoculture of voices and styles in a project then it can hardly be an issue.

What do you think glorifying is? Because this is definitely not gloryfing bullying.

Depicting =/= glorifying.

Are you openly queer in Korea rn? Because saying live your truth is very different than facing the lived consequences of said truth.

LJH hasn't been enabling LDH as much as he has literally been using him as a pawn. The reason they were ransacked in the first place was LJH and their siblings trying to dig up dirt on LDH.

LDH's plan also would have been fine if LJH didn't get involved. Partially because there's nothing wrong with marrying your best friend for a couple of years. People do that with people they care about way less.The main problem with people marrying their beards is when the beard doesn't know they're gay so their emotions aren't being taken into consideration. A set 3 years married to someone you love and care for knowing it is not now nor will it ever become real isnt a big deal.

Tomorrow is going to be sooo fun! 🤗

I have a feeling there's just not a clear good person in this drama. ML is the closest we will ever get and given he's planning to trick his wife into thinking he cares about her before she dies even he's morally grey at best.

I feel like you've missed a lot of the mistreatment he's had from her and her family to get to this point. He has a heart, and his heart is why he's callous now.

While I do believe there's genuinely love there Ji Han is also using Do Han rather than caring about him. If he cared about his happiness he wouldn't be digging up things on him when he's asked him to stop. Setting him up with rather rich women or ignoring his wishes to not get tied up with this inhereyance fight. Ji Han isn't doing this because he loves his brother at all he's doing it for a better life for himself.

What do you think a 30 year old virgin with no confidence looks like? Cause there are more than you'd think and they look a large variety of ways.

Firstly, is putting your ARRIVAL TIME in a post a thing that people actually do? Like maybe if you're taking a photo of the tickets but if not why would you?

Also do airline staff really require zero ID or procedure for unaccompanied minors? Will they just let them leave with anyone they know. Seems unsafe.

Lastly I'm finding it very hard to not victim blame when you bring no security, call noone for assistance, and don't even turn up earlier than your daughters arrival time knowing there is a psychopath literally out to get you and on the loose. Like at that point you're not even taking basic precautions with the safety of your child Jae Won, come on. Honestly personally I wouldn't have even brought my kid back til she was captured or at least until much much later but drama has got to drama i guess.

Did you go by the ages they said in Thai or by the translated ages in the subs by the way?

I think you're projecting a little bit calling them worked up. I think they explained quite calmly and methodically the problem with the title to them and as we can see the same issue with the title is shown in the subtitles too.

It's absolutely fine for a Thai show to only be released in Thai so having it have an English title is a choice specifically to also pull an English speaking audience. Just like it would be weird if an English show went for a random nonsensical Thai title without checking if the Thai worked, it's a little weird that noone checked if the English worked.

Not insurmountable, just odd.

I feel like you'd warm up into it or ask first and for a reason. Like if you were concerned there was a problem or feeling particularly lopsided you'd ask your friend to look but i don't think you'd just flash them and ask later hahaha.

But people are different. Maybe that scene is forewarning us of what her character is like so when she does something like this later we can go oh yeah, thats how roommate is. Or there'll be some kind of mystery or problem and we can guess it's roommate because of this scene.

It's honestly just kind of depressing at this point. This show is the void where hope and faith in humanity goes to die. I'm very glad next week is the last week.

Literally. But the police can't go by what clearly happened if there's no actual evidence that she did what she did. It's just frustrating because why tf is that all the security they had on him? Why weren't there a billion cameras going?

Lol just because he was being put upon by 2FL does not mean he didn't purposefully plan to cheat w her best friend then literally gaslight her knowing she'd see through it.



You know what you do when someone cheats on you? You leave them. Or you do literally the smallest amount of actual investigation into the incident. FL did the WORK when she suspected him of cheating including digging into the background of his twin brother. He didn't do the work in that incident until AFTER he'd already ruined their lives.


What you don't do? You don't plot elaborate schemes against them and bring your DAUGHTER to your hook ups. If he's alive and she chooses to forgive him for cruelly punishing her for being raped (in that photograph it is very clear she is not able to stand let alone consent) that's totally up to the FL as she is written. But the fact the audience is giving excuses like he's not written to be a fully grown adult man who makes his own choices is wild.


NOT to mention he filmed 2fl without her consent to antagonise FL.