strawgal

Like almost everyone has said the first 4-5 eps are the hook, and then it goes somewhere else.
It could be a very compelling discussion as when is a fake not a fake, especially, when multinational companies source part products in bulk from overseas them assemble them in the brands home country and pass them off in made in that country, with obviously a huge brand mark up.
You could say that most brand or people in the public eye are fake, their image carefully curated with the use of bots so you only see information to that enhances a 'good' image.
I think where is lost it's power is by making every character a detached outside watcher where the consequences of the fakery where hidden, and the none liner story telling didn't help the viewer connect.
Of course Shin Haesun was outstanding as usual, I just she was given more normal people to play, it is like she has cornered the market dysfunctional characters.

How about Kelvin gets a brain injury when Vier tries to escape, and wakes up with a completely personality, they get married and Vier gets all his money?
All that blood, they over did the blood, on the floor is more indicative of a scalp injury, injuries to the brain tend to bleed through the nose and ears, so unless he has a depressed skull fracture the man is still alive. To have that much blood pumped out the heart has to working.

Yep. I can not wait to see how the writer solves what seems a plot that only seems to have one inevitable conclusion.

Well this has been a find, if you like your drama raw and real.

Well, I do not know how any one is goin g to come out of this tangled mess in one piece.
It reminds me a bit of the John Fowles book The Collector

After the 2nd attempt I have had to drop this, its so sweet, has so little plot and relies too much on the actors make up for my taste.

Good script, great acting, and direction.
The use of side characters that actually add the the depth to the script makes it stand out.

I like this season more because it shows some of their personalties. Like in all relationships you eventually stop trying to be perfect, but at the same time the 'real' you may be not what the other person wanted, or expected.

I think what this show explains well is weight and perhaps dread, when you have waited so long for something, had a mental picture of how it could be but are afraid of the reality being being failure.
As kids you get over things quickly, as adults there is so much more to lose and the threat of memories becoming tainted. They have both had a vision in their mind of how it would be, its making those expectations fit together.
Its just managed to capture something heartfelt in a very unshowy way.

I couldn't rate it higher, the direction and overall look was just too much of a formula, and didn't come even close to looking like a real life, too clean and tidy. The last episode was perhaps the only one that gave a real feel of danger.
The leads did what they do best really well, if had been a straight forward rom com I think it would have worked better. They are both just too cute.
Chimon, was the stand out for me, and Pahn was truly creepy and she made the end scenes.

I have given in and dropped. The way the FL voice and delivery of lines for me is like nails on a black board, and both leads characters are just not attractive. The sort of people that you hear across the room at a social event and avoid.

TBH is annoys me the amount it costs for policing which the clubs may pay for locally, but the antisocial behaviour that you see on the way to the match that spreads out, so often they need to be contained is just not seen a other mass sporting events, like horse racing. You get a lot of drunks but the crowds demographic on band nights are virtually the same now but the fights are usually women bitching in the toilets.
You get about 20, 000 people over four hours, there are perhaps is a police presence on site but the medical centre is used more.

There is a theory that some of the cost is used for tax evasion/money laundering or they are losing local tax breaks. Even Hollywood projects costs are often bloated and they use associated companies to take out money from a project. The film Iron Lung cost 3million to make, because it was self funded, and has already taken 80 million because the writer producer managed to reduce most of the normal costs of production.
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The fashion industry is a bit like acting in the use of 'free' labour for projects. My daughter was an intern for a major international label, they are used for a project to cut costs, and then when the project is completed let go. You only thing you get from it is a credit on your CV.
My daughter has also worked for people whose parents fund them, she makes the patterns and samples, then the bulk of the garments are produced in China, but even with family money and support they never manage to develop a brand. So is some of it vanity credit/ employment.
I supposed not matter how bad the drama is there must be a base amount of money they can generate from platforms like YouTube.
Some of the drama that go straight to Youtube from small production companies are often better written than this one, which obviously did not spend a lot on sets.

If you follow football the fans are often the harshest critics, and it's not always done with love,and they are pretty blunt with the expression of their dissatisfaction, and I can only imagine how Wenger felt when the fans were chanting against him.

I wonder if we could lobby for an award for the worst script/screen play because someone needs to know they did a sh!t job.
Everyone moaned about Playboyy last year but in comparison it did have a plot and some character 'development'.

The scrip/screen play is now wandering around like blind man's bluff trying to hit random targets with no real objective. It makes no sense what so ever and the bits you sort of idea what they are trying to do is really badly done.

I always think as humans we must not forget we are animals, that thousands of years have programmed us with instincts which enable our survival , but we are able depending on need we can modify expressed behaviour..
I trained horses, and some horses are very trainable, but you have to be very aware that there is a point that however well trained they are do not forget that they will revert to their survival mode,if needed for the right trigger without warning. What ever the breed horse the basic triggers and response remain constant, the only difference between a 200kg Shetland pony, and 450kg race bred Thoroughbred is how much damage they can do if they run you over and kiick you.
I see culture an over lay, with perhaps and extra layer on that how individuals react to that training and environment, but you have to look at any sort of conflict to see once people start fighting over just about anything most of the cultural norms are discarded. very quickly. Most of the time people try and avoid conflict in modern life because I think most people fear of the effects of violence which is an instinct.
The internet give people a safe place, most of the time, to lobe verbal bricks at each other with no physical consequences.
I have a Bronze Age flint tool I found in my garden, and what really gives me wonder is when I pick it up this piece of shaped flint sits in my hand and I know to use it.
I live in a place where the remanent of different cultures are are constant reminders, and cultures are overlaid, so a lot of churches have Saxon foundations, we have the remains of Roman building and roads, and our language, place and regional accents are full of words left by previous invaders with we have adapted. The only constant in centuries of British culture I see we will adapt and use perhaps completely novel way what was brought in, and nearly invader thought the Scotts were best avoided. I think the wall in GOT is perhaps an idea taken from Hadrian's Wall. I sound like Ned Stark.
So I just think humans are as species are not that different, it's just our own self aggrandisement that we see what ever culture we have at the time as something that defines us.
So in short I think all young men at a basic level had the same emotional triggers and often lack of restraint, and you could theorise that the increase in violence in every society is down the the fact their core needs are not being able to be expressed and valued, That what is classed as ADHD in some is perhaps something that would have been seen as a positive in a society where hard physical labour was part of survival and you perhaps only had social contact with a few people.
Off topic.
I find Romance Scammer the most unsettling because there is nothing more emotionally manipulative and hurtful than faking relationships. Its no surprise that cat fishing and telephone cons seem to be done mainly by men,
I think that there should be a crib sheet to go with it of how to spot tells, and do background checks.
Buying horse is like picking a partner, you need to be an internet detective to find out it's real history.

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You love doing something, enjoy a challenge and still find it exhausting.
I think good actors make things look easy, just like any other skill, when there is often a lot of thought and preparation gone a scene, and then you have to repeat that perhaps many times for different camera angles and match the. performance

The character is very similar to young adult males I have met in real life, so the comment is based on my life experience, and honestly it gets to a point where even their friends want a rest from it. IME

You are confusing my opinion of the character with what I think of the actor, because do that often on repeat is mentally and physically tiring, it's hard to be that expressive constantly.

Over the years I met a lot of people and tried to get people to understand the information they are given, and what you soon realise is what you say, is not often what people actually hear and understand, and how they respond to that information often depends on their life experience, as well their own internal logic of what actually happening.

In this genre most of the time young men are not depicted as behaving as young men, it's my experience they are in constantly moving, finding things to make, investigate argue over and tend to be risk takers, so they often end up in trouble unless their energy is diverted.
Even as grown men they often divert that energy in to work, play sport, go to the gym, or watch sport in groups.

I would say the character as played is perhaps is at extreme end of the scale of normal and in the real world if it was affecting his work they would suggest trying medication, this is my experience Some just take medication on weekdays, so they can concentrate at work, and 'be themselves' at the week end. The one thing I know is who ever is around them can be exasperated by their behaviour, because you end up constantly trying to compensate for their actions while trying to do what they need to do. The friends in the drama would perhaps not be quite so understanding in real life.

Layered on top you have obsessive behaviour, which depending what or who they are obsessing on can be unhealthy because it's often based no real understanding of the relationship. Most commonly seen in C drama where there is usually a female trying to make someone love her, which somehow to drama writers seems normal.
Limerence a wonderful word.
a state of being infatuated or obsessed with another person, typically characterized by a strong desire for reciprocation of one's feelings but not primarily for a sexual relationship.

It will all depend if the writers can pull this off because if its all going to be sorted by 'love' , because it's unlikely.