I am so bored of waiting for this now. Also loosing my intrest and excitement. i miss inna already hoping to hear a new casting for her because this is taking tooooooooo long
in the second episode the male lead says "you are not like other girls" ahhhhhhhhh shitt here we go again "you can't afford to cry at everything like them in order to get things done for you" DROPPED I mean how can the writers even make up such a shitty line ?!?! he basically said girls cry to get things done excuse me ?!?!? He says this in a flashback scene of their school days so maybe he was stupid then but whatever i dropped it after this scene and haven't picked it up yet again. Does the ML still thinks this or are there any changes in his attitude as the story develops ?? can someone tell
Same thoughts bestie !! I am just hoping she does not goes into a hiatus just like she went after she blowed up…
Goblin ended in jan 2017 and touch your heart started airing on feb 2019. so you see there is literally a 2 year gap between both of her projects. So 2 years she was just not taking any dramas as she was on hiatus, she was being recieved with many but she said she wasn't confident enough...
OMG YESSS FINALLY THEY RELEASED A STATEMENT. THEY ARE CHANGING YOUNG CHO'S NAME. AS THEY SHOULD !!!!
" In addition, regarding the character Youngcho played by Jisoo in the play, he said, "The name of the character in the play is unrelated to Mr. Chun Youngcho. However, as it was pointed out that it reminds me of the teacher, I will change the name of the related female protagonist." "
I don't think anyone of us here is supporting the cancellation, everyone (mostly) here is literally like hey i hope they change the problematic parts, speak more and the drama gets released that's it. Some (minority including me) agree with knets accusations and some don't. No one as far as i have read here is supporting bullying or cancel culture, please they are just very heavy words don't just throw them over the internet on just anyone because your thinking and their thinking is not same. Everything happening is already really sad !!
stop bullying me for fucks sake you fucking troll i'm not hating on anyone in this drama but you're definitely…
I CAN LITERALLY UNDERSTAND YOUR FRUSTRATION RIGHT NOWWWWWW. THIS IS SO SAD THAT YOU ARE BEING PERSONALLY ATTACKED OVER HERE JUST BECAUSE YOU STAND BY YOUR OPINION. THE FUCK ARE THEY BULLYING YOU FOR ?!?!? LITERALLY MAKES 0 SENSE TO ME... ANYWAYS KEEP GOING, IF THESE PEOPLE DIDN'T WANT TO BE EDUCATED THEN THEY SHOULD JUST BE IGNORED. I AM LITERALLY GONNA IGNORE THIS ONE ACCOUNT AND REPORT IT FOR HATE SPEECH.
You're a typical exemple of someone who doesn't understand what a fiction is. Or even a adaptation on screen.Following…
Hmmm as far as my understanding goes and google describes is " Fiction generally is a narrative form, in any medium, consisting of people, events, or places that are imaginary—in other words, not based strictly on history or fact. " let's pay more attention to the " not based strictly on history or fact ". Hope it's clear for you now, it is not based on history which is what is happening here, some things here are definately based on history. I agree though that history can't be portrayed perfectly but i still believe it should be. People here in this case have time to change so they should. Don't you think that this issue or in particular this movement is a bit sensitive to be adapted and CHANGED, when their are living victims of this era, making them feel unheard or unseened. Agreed here as well, after reading what here people are saying that there are only few such people, also agreed they shouldn't cancel it because duhhhhh there's nothing official yet. But yes i think they deserve an explanation, sorry but i stand on it. SO TRUE SO TRUE 100 % agreed that this all should stop as soon as possible it's definately sad. Ahhh manifesting snowdrop release with no problematic elements in it :)))))
And what is the problematic part??? They do not even have access to actual script..
why are you so mad over them cancelling a show about their OWN history in their OWN country, made by their OWN people ??? Like who are you and where do you stand in a position to call them oversensitive loosers, a mere international viewer ?? you are being so insensitive to their story just because your fav is here. I literally have 3 of my ults here but i can still sympathize with knets and you can't?? From all your comments you seem the one too insesitive and selfish ???
How come they got access to the whole script??? Does that name that you are referring to has a trademark or something???…
Oh well that's your fault if you thought so, I am just explaining my opinion but you made your own assumption real fast .. I haven't watched it but buddy please you are getting the whole point wrong. Using historical refferences is NOT WRONG but using it and saying hey we just used it for fiction so we could create our own little romantic melodrama (supposedly ?) is WRONG. Obviously agreed with you on the fact that more such movies and dramas should be made, but at the same time they should be made with ACCURACY and PROPER RESEARCH. However here this drama is not about the historical movement but a mere romantic melodrama in that time which is using all those historical names and events of that era and when the era is such an important part of korean democracy. Their are literally victims of this movement living in the country having major disorders and life long illnesses, suffering from the trauma this time caused them and imagine thier pain ?? And they are going to create a lovestory which involves all what i said ?? The new generation needs to see and learn how important democracy is and how hard it was for their people to win it, which is not what snowdrop is promising, it's going to produce a love story. YES EXACTLY THEY SHOULD USE CINEMA TO EDUCATE GENERATION AND NOT ROMANTICIZE A WHOLE DEMOCRATIC MOVEMENT INTO A SUPPOSEDLY BLACK COMEDY MELODRAMA. well black comedy does includes comedy so it's obvious for people to assume they are going to make fun of people and the events. LOL no i am not hyping any leaked script here, literally just saying what i feel and you got offended by that.... UMMMMMM not really i've been here from the day yoo inna was confirmed to join the cast in january since then i am here hyping the drama and waiting for it to broadcast, THE THING IS NO ONE INCLUDING ME WANTS THE DRAMA TO BE CANCELLED BUT JTBC TO RELEASE SOME MORE INFO TO CALM DOWN THIS WHOLE ANGST AMONG THE KNETS. this is literally all we want. I really want this drama to air but at the same time i want it to be accurate and not hurt any community or individuals related. I agree with you that people are being intolerant maybe use the word impatient, but i don't think anything can be done now that the angst and protest is already rising due to JE. It would be better for JTBC to speak up and do something now or the situations might even get worse. Now they are sending trucks, who knows what's next .... LITERALLY HOPING EVERYTHING GOES WELL FOR EVERYONE
How come they got access to the whole script??? Does that name that you are referring to has a trademark or something???…
Why are you making it about me?? I am a international fan and i don't see myself in a position to QUESTION anything to them in korea ?? I can only EXPRESS MY OPINION !! Obviously that's the problem mate that's a fictional drama but it's using REAL HISTORICAL DATES, REAL HISTORICAL REFFERENCE, NAMES OF REAL HISTORICAL FIGURES. that's the whole dammn reason behind knets loosing their chills and getting mad. It's their right to be intolerant or demand an explaination about their own history ??!! I don't know how many people have that name in koream, but during the time of these event she was a prominent figure and is still remembered for her sacrifices and things she did for her country.
Yeah I 300% agree with you that many i-fans are downplaying it. Very similar situation like the Gwangju uprising…
OHHH sorry to hear that your country had to go through this as well !! I am glad someone agrees with me though. I also 300% percent agree with you like they don't need to cancel it but just censor it, like change everything that's questionable or offensive to their history. If it requires them to change young cho's name they should probably do that as well. "They still have some time to revise things and hear what audiences have to say. JTBC should post a longer clarification. The one they just posted just angered Knetz even more. Ughh." SO TRUEEEEEE ARGHHHHHH CAN'T AGREE MORE, THAT'S LITERALLY MY WHOLE POINT. YOU LITERALLY SAID IT IN LESS WORDS AND MORE ACCURATELY THAN ME.
I definitely get the concerns but it's not like we can't satirize sensitive topics...a good example is Jojo Rabbit.…
oooo i agree though. TBH i still can't understand the concept of "black comedy" but it is causing fire among knets for sure !! I also watched sky castle LOL didn't even realsied it had anything called "black comedy"
How come they got access to the whole script??? Does that name that you are referring to has a trademark or something???…
"How come they got access to the whole script???" Umm i never said they have acess to the whole script, before arguing with me go read the threads i mentioned. The things they are saying is based on the little synopsis here on internet and actual facts present on the internet.
"Does that name that you are referring to has a trademark or something???" The name "young cho" is not just any name but a name of a PROMINENT WOMEN DEMOCRATIST. You think it's okay to use a name like this and just distort everything related to her ??? "Yeong-cho was a symbol of the democratization movement. She was leader to “Garayeol” : women circle who discussed, resisted, and acted in a male-centered environment during the PCH dictatorship." She is important figure in the history of korea, If this is a fictional or creative work why use a prominent figures name when they can create a fictional one ??
"Drama isn't fucked up but antis like you are trying to sabotage it... remember jisoo isn't the only actor, many popular n veteran actors are involved in this drama...do you think they will be stupid enough??" ANTIS ? seriously ?? idgaf about jisoo or blackpink ?? i am not into kpop or stuff ? Nope the actors INCLUDING jisoo are not stupid and niether did i say it or did any of these threads said it, the only thing stupid here is the production because they are saying quiet and making k nets angry. Apparently they need to speak more on this then they did last time. It's literally just in your head that everything is about your idol ms jisoo. No it's greater than her okay ?!?
"Its just that people like you aren't given enough attention by jtbc that's why your ass is on fire..." Yes can definately agree with the fact that JTBC is not giving attention but here i am not the one in need of it, it's the people of their own country who need JTBC's attention. My ass on fire ?? Lol no it's on a chair, check yours maybe :)
Bruhhh the drama is fucked idc what yall think but IT IS FUCKED.
Anyways here is a thread explaining in detail about how JTBC is actually using actual historical refferences from korean history and then naming it as creative work is so fucking wrong in my opinion. If this is fictional they should be using dates or refferences which have no connections with korean history. Like i seriously hope they edit this stuff. Also till now i didn't know why is suho from germany but this thread explains how is germany connected to this whole situation. https://twitter.com/AskAKorean/status/1375488555250761739?s=20
Another thread which explains everything wrong with jisoo's character being named as young cho. (EDIT: the thread's titled as "Who is Cheon Yeong-cho and why is it insulting that <#Snowdrop> is using her name? " So read it before you come for me or call me an anti or any other shit. Also literally no one is saying anything here to jisoo so calm down) https://twitter.com/joyfuljoyfuI/status/1375669418492104704?s=20
You guys should read these to get a clearer picture on the wieght of this issue. It's not as shallow as people on the internet specially international fans are making it seem. It's deep. K nets definately deserve an explaination for everything that's going on. we all are just people enjoying there content and tbh we are no one to have a say in anything related to their country's history. Their actions seem reasonable to ME.
I myself hope this 1) get's cancelled right now 2) clears everything out with knets. Also a better way would be for the historians to take a look at everything and every single prop/scene/line and give it a go or censor and change it. please my faves i want them outta here :((((((
" “Snowdrop” is a black comedy that satirizes the presidential elections taking place in the 1980s under a military regime during the North-South tension on the Korean peninsula. It is also a melodrama about the young men and women who were victims of that situation. "
Can someone please interpret this to me in a better way ??
In my interpretition (which can be wrong) they said it's a black comedy in simple words dark humour, now would they include HUMOUR AND SATIRE into something this CONTROVERSIAL AND SENSITIVE ?? Like it will still make knetz mad and They will still try to cancel it ...
on a better note :- "In particular, accusations like “the drama will show a North Korean spy leading the pro-democracy movement” and “the drama made a real student activist into a character” and “the drama glamorizes the Agency of National Security Planning” are not only different from the drama’s actual content but also far from the production staff’s intention."
I don't know how this was given a go signal to be produced. They have to change the plot and take out the political…
True to that !! Like they have time, they should sincerely research more into this and see what they can do. If they can't they should just stop everything.
i miss inna already hoping to hear a new casting for her because this is taking tooooooooo long
"you are not like other girls" ahhhhhhhhh shitt here we go again
"you can't afford to cry at everything like them in order to get things done for you" DROPPED
I mean how can the writers even make up such a shitty line ?!?! he basically said girls cry to get things done excuse me ?!?!?
He says this in a flashback scene of their school days so maybe he was stupid then but whatever i dropped it after this scene and haven't picked it up yet again.
Does the ML still thinks this or are there any changes in his attitude as the story develops ?? can someone tell
AS THEY SHOULD !!!!
" In addition, regarding the character Youngcho played by Jisoo in the play, he said, "The name of the character in the play is unrelated to Mr. Chun Youngcho. However, as it was pointed out that it reminds me of the teacher, I will change the name of the related female protagonist." "
READ :- https://n.news.naver.com/entertain/now/article/076/0003709624
Everything happening is already really sad !!
ANYWAYS KEEP GOING, IF THESE PEOPLE DIDN'T WANT TO BE EDUCATED THEN THEY SHOULD JUST BE IGNORED. I AM LITERALLY GONNA IGNORE THIS ONE ACCOUNT AND REPORT IT FOR HATE SPEECH.
I agree though that history can't be portrayed perfectly but i still believe it should be. People here in this case have time to change so they should. Don't you think that this issue or in particular this movement is a bit sensitive to be adapted and CHANGED, when their are living victims of this era, making them feel unheard or unseened.
Agreed here as well, after reading what here people are saying that there are only few such people, also agreed they shouldn't cancel it because duhhhhh there's nothing official yet. But yes i think they deserve an explanation, sorry but i stand on it.
SO TRUE SO TRUE 100 % agreed that this all should stop as soon as possible it's definately sad. Ahhh manifesting snowdrop release with no problematic elements in it :)))))
LITERALLY HOPING EVERYTHING GOES WELL FOR EVERYONE
"They still have some time to revise things and hear what audiences have to say. JTBC should post a longer clarification. The one they just posted just angered Knetz even more. Ughh." SO TRUEEEEEE ARGHHHHHH CAN'T AGREE MORE, THAT'S LITERALLY MY WHOLE POINT.
YOU LITERALLY SAID IT IN LESS WORDS AND MORE ACCURATELY THAN ME.
Umm i never said they have acess to the whole script, before arguing with me go read the threads i mentioned. The things they are saying is based on the little synopsis here on internet and actual facts present on the internet.
"Does that name that you are referring to has a trademark or something???"
The name "young cho" is not just any name but a name of a PROMINENT WOMEN DEMOCRATIST. You think it's okay to use a name like this and just distort everything related to her ??? "Yeong-cho was a symbol of the democratization movement. She was leader to “Garayeol” : women circle who discussed, resisted, and acted in a male-centered environment during the PCH dictatorship." She is important figure in the history of korea, If this is a fictional or creative work why use a prominent figures name when they can create a fictional one ??
"Drama isn't fucked up but antis like you are trying to sabotage it... remember jisoo isn't the only actor, many popular n veteran actors are involved in this drama...do you think they will be stupid enough??"
ANTIS ? seriously ?? idgaf about jisoo or blackpink ?? i am not into kpop or stuff ? Nope the actors INCLUDING jisoo are not stupid and niether did i say it or did any of these threads said it, the only thing stupid here is the production because they are saying quiet and making k nets angry. Apparently they need to speak more on this then they did last time. It's literally just in your head that everything is about your idol ms jisoo. No it's greater than her okay ?!?
"Its just that people like you aren't given enough attention by jtbc that's why your ass is on fire..."
Yes can definately agree with the fact that JTBC is not giving attention but here i am not the one in need of it, it's the people of their own country who need JTBC's attention. My ass on fire ?? Lol no it's on a chair, check yours maybe :)
Anyways here is a thread explaining in detail about how JTBC is actually using actual historical refferences from korean history and then naming it as creative work is so fucking wrong in my opinion. If this is fictional they should be using dates or refferences which have no connections with korean history. Like i seriously hope they edit this stuff. Also till now i didn't know why is suho from germany but this thread explains how is germany connected to this whole situation.
https://twitter.com/AskAKorean/status/1375488555250761739?s=20
Another thread which explains everything wrong with jisoo's character being named as young cho.
(EDIT: the thread's titled as "Who is Cheon Yeong-cho and why is it insulting that <#Snowdrop> is using her name? " So read it before you come for me or call me an anti or any other shit. Also literally no one is saying anything here to jisoo so calm down)
https://twitter.com/joyfuljoyfuI/status/1375669418492104704?s=20
You guys should read these to get a clearer picture on the wieght of this issue. It's not as shallow as people on the internet specially international fans are making it seem. It's deep. K nets definately deserve an explaination for everything that's going on. we all are just people enjoying there content and tbh we are no one to have a say in anything related to their country's history. Their actions seem reasonable to ME.
I myself hope this 1) get's cancelled right now 2) clears everything out with knets. Also a better way would be for the historians to take a look at everything and every single prop/scene/line and give it a go or censor and change it.
please my faves i want them outta here :((((((
Can someone please interpret this to me in a better way ??
In my interpretition (which can be wrong) they said it's a black comedy in simple words dark humour, now would they include HUMOUR AND SATIRE into something this CONTROVERSIAL AND SENSITIVE ?? Like it will still make knetz mad and They will still try to cancel it ...
on a better note :-
"In particular, accusations like “the drama will show a North Korean spy leading the pro-democracy movement” and “the drama made a real student activist into a character” and “the drama glamorizes the Agency of National Security Planning” are not only different from the drama’s actual content but also far from the production staff’s intention."