#韠 Lost You Forever# Because there is an important attribute of "should not love" in front of this person, you know the answer in your heart.
@阿 sangisa nice and cool mushroom: Question for @同华tonghua: If you fell in love with someone you weren't meant to love, would you choose love or fulfillment?
True love in Lost You Forever is clearly shown...without needing of any voodoo thing...XY and Jing developed themselves…
isn't Tonghua just wasting her time just writing BUG LOVERS in her three books? Hasn't the book been revised several times? why doesn't she turn it into a friendship BUG?
Since people kept bringing up interviewsHere is what TH really said about LYF : She said there is no true love…
Hmmm...you're not completely wrong, but that's not all. Should I tell you? THIS IS TONGHUA'S ORIGINAL POST ON HER WEIBO.
《Eternally Yearning for Each Other》(English title: Lost You Forever) -- A Mutual Love That Cannot be Together, Yet Unable to Be Forgotten
桐华tonghua 2013-02-26 09:35:53
[About Cangxuan&mother] Many readers remember Mrs. Hu from Jin Yong's "Flying Fox on Snowy Mountain". After her husband died, she committed suicide, a very soul-stirring love that follows in life and death. I was also very moved and liked this woman very much. However, although I was very young at the time, I still had doubts. She committed suicide, then what happened to her child? How would a child who lost both parents live on? Even if the child was entrusted to the most famous hero in the pugilistic world, what of it? Who can replace the parents' place in this world? (Facts proved that Hu Fei [the orphaned child] did undergo many hardships)
[About Xiaoyao&xiangliu] Therefore in comparison, [author] Liang Yu Sheng's Wu Xuanshuang moved me more. The imagery of her taking Li Yi's children and walking step by step in the wind and snow after Li Yi died, will forever be imprinted in my heart. Her love for Li Yi was deep and surpassed her own life, yet she chose to live on and take care of Li Yi's children. (These are stories I read many years ago, but as I write this, I suddenly realised that I cannot remember Mrs. Hu's name except that she was Hu Yidao's wife, but I can clearly remember Wu Xuanshuang's name. This seems to indirectly imply how one woman made her life dependent on a man, while another woman lived out her own life regardless of how strong her love was.)
What Lost You Forever conveys is a kind of love that "lives [on]". I always feel that in this world, while love is soul-stirring, it is not everything in life.
Familial relationships, friendships, ideals, responsibilities... people have all kinds of ties in this world, and there are a lot of blessings and happiness that do not come from romantic love.
Eternal yearning for each other happens because there is profound love, because it cannot be obtained, because it cannot be forgotten. However, I am willing to bear with all these emotions and live well. Life is a series of encounters and partings; it is a series of forgetting (leaving behind) and beginnings. You were once here, you have left. Even though I find it difficult to stop missing you, I will still smile when I see the beautiful rainbow.
I have not published a new book in two years. This is my new story "Lost You Forever" for you -- my beloved readers, my companions on my journey!
Without you, I will not have story after story [to tell]. Thank you!
Long ago, I once mentioned that when I read "Flying Fox on Snowy Mountain", although I was extremely moved, the truth is I especially could not condone Hu Yidao's wife's suicide. As such, we have [the scenario of] Older Cousin (Cang Xuan) and his mother.
Even after he grew up, Older Cousin was still haunted by the sight of his mother stabbing herself. He was always struggling with the shadow of that stab his entire life.
As a wife, choosing to die with her husband was a moving choice. However, as a mother, since she gave birth to a child, she should have taken responsibility for her child.
[About Tushan jing,Tushan hou & FFY]
There is another product of emotion in Lost You Forever.
Western Poison Ouyang Feng from Baituo Mountain, was the most outstanding figure in the pugilistic world. Ouyang Ke was his son with his sister-in-law.
This residual image was transformed into Maggie Cheung's unparalleled elegance, and Leslie Cheung's drunken haze in Wong Kar Wai's movie [东邪西毒 Ashes of Time]. The world kept them apart, but they could not forget each other even they tried.
But what about Western Poison's older brother?
The lord of Baituo Mountain?
No one cared, and it seemed he did not even have a name.
I listened to 烬 Embers (from the movie), but the one I thought of was the man from the Ouyang clan of Baituo Mountain who did not even have a name.
He married a woman who did not love him. Why? Ouyang Feng missed the woman on Baituo Mountain, yet never thought of visiting his older brother. Why?
That woman could arrange for someone to deliver a jar of wine into Ouyang Feng's hands, and could give birth to his son. He was on Baituo mountain, was the lord of Baituo mountain, but... evidently never really intervened...
A little thought wandered from Baituo mountain to Qing Qiu. Then there was Jing, Hou, Yi Ying. I always wondered, if the man who rowed the boat on the spring waters amidst the shadows of flowers during Gao Xin's lantern festival was Jing, not Hou, Yi Ying and Jing might have been a good match too. Although Yi Ying was calculative every step of the way, the moment she heard of Jing's death, she set aside all her plans, disregarded her clan's opposition and the eyes of the world, put on her wedding dress and rushed thousands of miles all by herself to Qing Qiu mountain. She was determined to kill Hou and avenge Jing. Only, only... the man who came with a lantern that dim night. It was you after all!
The writer herself has said the Jing is XY's lover. It is him who is in her heart.
Ooh... don't worry, I also don't mean to invite you to join our thread. It's just that we know that you guys have complicated reasons. So I just want to show that the poster is true and the one and only. Do you want to know, the poster was officially printed together with the 2nd book "Love Confessed". I wonder, why didn't TH print the Yaojing True Love poster, instead of the Yaoliu poster. What's more, it was printed with the 2nd book "Love Confessed" .I don't expect you to answer, I already know your answer ^^
The writer herself has said the Jing is XY's lover. It is him who is in her heart.
Oooh Dear...of course we are sure. Because Yaoliu is the only image that is officially printed with the physical book, of course what we are talking about is the first edition in 2013, original. Ooh wait, where is Yaojing true love..LOL
XLiu is Tonghua's (writer) most important male character, she said so herself in interviews, she create this 'XiangLiu"…
Then there are still people who say that tonghua doesn't really like XL,Just because he has the least presence in the novel.Even though TH gave the characteristics of a male protagonist to XL, and gave every iconic scene to Yaoliu. It seems like some people are trying to twist everything.
The writer herself has said the Jing is XY's lover. It is him who is in her heart.
Aahhh... Again, you are using your version of the ultimate weapon. OK, that's what TH said before the drama adaptation. (and that's according to your own interpretation) But what did TH say long before that?
鸵鸟石: I still love Xiang Liu's unfettered attitude. Since he understood they could not be together, he completely cut off any hopes without leaving any room for it, unlike Yin Nanzhao** who dragged his feet, harming others as well as himself!
TH: I feel that [their?] feelings are always mutual. Xiao Yao did not have Luo Xun**'s ability to throw herself passionately in[to a relationship] without consideration for life and death. Xiao Yao clear-headedly pulled him out - someone who could not be allowed to enter [her] dreams.
Please underline "Their Feelings are always mutual". it is mutual love. Like yin nanzhao and luo xun who love each other.
I'm sure, after this you will call me a big liar. And what? Xiaoyao wants to spend the rest of her life with TSJ? LOL.
Please tell me who among the four did she really love in the novel with all her heart?
Have you read the novel, I suggest you read it, Maybe you can find the answer.don't forget the instructions given by Tonghua,("Is what we can see with our naked eyes really the truth?") and this is the writing technique that TH uses, ("the gray line of grass and snakes, the hidden pulse is thousands of miles away") this will be very helpful to find out the answer you want. Of course my answer to your question is Xiang Liu, only.
Yess....definetly I like how the drama added that Xiao Yao compared jing to bright moon..it said it all. but of…
Seeing the moon only reminds me of Xiangliu. Jing as the moon, that's just a parable, proverb or proverb. But that doesn't mean that if we see the real moon, it doesn't mean we remember Jing. Throughout the novel the moon is always with Xiangliu.^^
The only person worthy of the moon is Xiang Liu. Even after the production tried to change the meaning of the…
I don't even believe what Xiaoyao saw, because TH herself in the foreword to her e-book said "was what Xiaoyao saw true?" So yeah... But since her choice was influenced by her psychological deficiencies, I can understand.
But the writer said that XY got what she wanted the most
hugged lieyang who had white hair and white clothes. If you think about it, with Lieyang's personality being so different from Shir Bi's, Xy should be the one hugging Shir Bi, not Lieyang. After all
There a lot changes and scene cuts predominantly to YaoLiu's romance. In season one, they deleted XY dream about…
and strangely, some say that the drama and novel are exactly the same, nothing has been changed. I can't say anything else, if yaoliu isn't love, why did they change and delete it.◑.◑
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Looks like I ruined your mood ^^
This is why Bug Lovers is so important, that TH spent all her words just writing it.
Tonghua's original post on her Weibo :
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GRywj6PaEAADuHJ?format=jpg&name=medium
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桐华tonghua
13-3-15 来自微访谈
#长相思#既然在这个人前面有一个重要的定 语”不该爱“,答案你心里明白。
@阿桑是个好菇凉:对@桐华tonghua 提问:若
爱上一个不该爱的人,你会选择爱还是成全? 进入本场微访谈
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桐华tonghua
3-13-15 From micro interview
#韠 Lost You Forever# Because there is an important attribute of "should not love" in front of this person, you know the answer in your heart.
@阿 sangisa nice and cool mushroom: Question for @同华tonghua:
If you fell in love with someone you weren't meant to love, would you choose love or fulfillment?
《Eternally Yearning for Each Other》(English title: Lost You Forever) -- A Mutual Love That Cannot be Together, Yet Unable to Be Forgotten
桐华tonghua 2013-02-26 09:35:53
[About Cangxuan&mother]
Many readers remember Mrs. Hu from Jin Yong's "Flying Fox on Snowy Mountain". After her husband died, she committed suicide, a very soul-stirring love that follows in life and death.
I was also very moved and liked this woman very much. However, although I was very young at the time, I still had doubts. She committed suicide, then what happened to her child? How would a child who lost both parents live on? Even if the child was entrusted to the most famous hero in the pugilistic world, what of it? Who can replace the parents' place in this world? (Facts proved that Hu Fei [the orphaned child] did undergo many hardships)
[About Xiaoyao&xiangliu]
Therefore in comparison, [author] Liang Yu Sheng's Wu Xuanshuang moved me more. The imagery of her taking Li Yi's children and walking step by step in the wind and snow after Li Yi died, will forever be imprinted in my heart. Her love for Li Yi was deep and surpassed her own life, yet she chose to live on and take care of Li Yi's children.
(These are stories I read many years ago, but as I write this, I suddenly realised that I cannot remember Mrs. Hu's name except that she was Hu Yidao's wife, but I can clearly remember Wu Xuanshuang's name. This seems to indirectly imply how one woman made her life dependent on a man, while another woman lived out her own life regardless of how strong her love was.)
What Lost You Forever conveys is a kind of love that "lives [on]". I always feel that in this world, while love is soul-stirring, it is not everything in life.
Familial relationships, friendships, ideals, responsibilities... people have all kinds of ties in this world, and there are a lot of blessings and happiness that do not come from romantic love.
Eternal yearning for each other happens because there is profound love, because it cannot be obtained, because it cannot be forgotten. However, I am willing to bear with all these emotions and live well.
Life is a series of encounters and partings; it is a series of forgetting (leaving behind) and beginnings.
You were once here, you have left.
Even though I find it difficult to stop missing you, I will still smile when I see the beautiful rainbow.
I have not published a new book in two years. This is my new story "Lost You Forever" for you -- my beloved readers, my companions on my journey!
Without you, I will not have story after story [to tell]. Thank you!
Tong Hua
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Long ago, I once mentioned that when I read "Flying Fox on Snowy Mountain", although I was extremely moved, the truth is I especially could not condone Hu Yidao's wife's suicide. As such, we have [the scenario of] Older Cousin (Cang Xuan) and his mother.
Even after he grew up, Older Cousin was still haunted by the sight of his mother stabbing herself. He was always struggling with the shadow of that stab his entire life.
As a wife, choosing to die with her husband was a moving choice. However, as a mother, since she gave birth to a child, she should have taken responsibility for her child.
[About Tushan jing,Tushan hou & FFY]
There is another product of emotion in Lost You Forever.
Western Poison Ouyang Feng from Baituo Mountain, was the most outstanding figure in the pugilistic world. Ouyang Ke was his son with his sister-in-law.
This residual image was transformed into Maggie Cheung's unparalleled elegance, and Leslie Cheung's drunken haze in Wong Kar Wai's movie [东邪西毒 Ashes of Time]. The world kept them apart, but they could not forget each other even they tried.
But what about Western Poison's older brother?
The lord of Baituo Mountain?
No one cared, and it seemed he did not even have a name.
I listened to 烬 Embers (from the movie), but the one I thought of was the man from the Ouyang clan of Baituo Mountain who did not even have a name.
He married a woman who did not love him. Why? Ouyang Feng missed the woman on Baituo Mountain, yet never thought of visiting his older brother. Why?
That woman could arrange for someone to deliver a jar of wine into Ouyang Feng's hands, and could give birth to his son. He was on Baituo mountain, was the lord of Baituo mountain, but... evidently never really intervened...
A little thought wandered from Baituo mountain to Qing Qiu. Then there was Jing, Hou, Yi Ying. I always wondered, if the man who rowed the boat on the spring waters amidst the shadows of flowers during Gao Xin's lantern festival was Jing, not Hou, Yi Ying and Jing might have been a good match too. Although Yi Ying was calculative every step of the way, the moment she heard of Jing's death, she set aside all her plans, disregarded her clan's opposition and the eyes of the world, put on her wedding dress and rushed thousands of miles all by herself to Qing Qiu mountain. She was determined to kill Hou and avenge Jing. Only, only... the man who came with a lantern that dim night. It was you after all!
-- 桐华tonghua @ Weibo, 4-10, 16:30 (year unknown)
Do you want to know, the poster was officially printed together with the 2nd book "Love Confessed". I wonder, why didn't TH print the Yaojing True Love poster, instead of the Yaoliu poster. What's more, it was printed with the 2nd book "Love Confessed" .I don't expect you to answer, I already know your answer ^^
Because Yaoliu is the only image that is officially printed with the physical book, of course what we are talking about is the first edition in 2013, original.
Ooh wait, where is Yaojing true love..LOL
https://mydramalist.com/discussions/lost-you-forever/121043-about-long-lovesickness-yaoliu?pid=3048765&page=5#p3048765
It seems like some people are trying to twist everything.
OK, that's what TH said before the drama adaptation. (and that's according to your own interpretation) But what did TH say long before that?
https://mydramalist.com/discussions/lost-you-forever/121043-about-long-lovesickness-yaoliu?pid=2928061&page=4#p2928061
鸵鸟石: I still love Xiang Liu's unfettered attitude. Since he understood they could not be together, he completely cut off any hopes without leaving any room for it, unlike Yin Nanzhao** who dragged his feet, harming others as well as himself!
TH: I feel that [their?] feelings are always mutual. Xiao Yao did not have Luo Xun**'s ability to throw herself passionately in[to a relationship] without consideration for life and death. Xiao Yao clear-headedly pulled him out - someone who could not be allowed to enter [her] dreams.
Please underline "Their Feelings are always mutual". it is mutual love. Like yin nanzhao and luo xun who love each other.
I'm sure, after this you will call me a big liar.
And what? Xiaoyao wants to spend the rest of her life with TSJ? LOL.
Jing as the moon, that's just a parable, proverb or proverb.
But that doesn't mean that if we see the real moon, it doesn't mean we remember Jing. Throughout the novel the moon is always with Xiangliu.^^
But since her choice was influenced by her psychological deficiencies, I can understand.
If you think about it, with Lieyang's personality being so different from Shir Bi's, Xy should be the one hugging Shir Bi, not Lieyang. After all
I can't say anything else, if yaoliu isn't love, why did they change and delete it.◑.◑
below is the link.
https://m.weibo.cn/u/3765946064?t=0&luicode=10000011&lfid=100103type%3D1%26q%3DXiangliu