Ich bien
heiße Ben. = My name is Ben.Wie heißt du? = What’s your name?
Wie geht es dir? = How are you?
Mir geht’s gut = I’m doing well.
Gut, danke. = Fine, thank you.
Nett, Sie kennen zu lernen. = Nice to meet you.
Wo ist die Toilette? = Where is the bathroom?
Was kostet das? = How much is this?
Sprechen Sie Englisch? = Do you speak English?
Ich kann kein Deutsch = I can't speak German
Wie komme ich zum Busbahnhof? = How can I get to the bus station?
Gibt es ein Restaurant in der Nähe? = Is there a restaurant nearby?
Kann ich zahlen, bitte? = Can I have the bill, please?
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My Disappointment Is Immeasurable and My Day Is Ruined
I dont wanna see people I don't like kiss and fall in "love".
I felt it with cutie pie and I feel it here, some characters (or more specifically, their decisions) are just too unlikable to overlook. The leeway given to mediocre plot in exchange for decent, not awkward BL doesn't exist here, because even the BL parts left me conflicted.
If a show is GOOD, like really, sincerely good, I just watch it. Back to back to back until it's done. I was reading reviews while watching episode 2 because I couldn't fathom how this got that high of a rating and I've had fastforward held down since the beginning of ep. 2. I'm skipping forwards constantly because Porsche is so aggressively unlikable. For all that he was wary of the mafias, he starts working for them and immediately begins acting a fool. I was literally rooting for someone to shoot him-- not fatally, though I don't think I'd care regardless, but anything to just restart the brain he seemed to have left behind in episode one. I'm not even done with episode two yet and this is all I have to say about it. The only positive is that episode one was interesting enough to get me to episode two. Episode two might not be interesting enough to get me to episode three, but the reviews implied it'll be worth it to wait for the VegasPete storyline so I'm gonna see how long I can hang on.
If you hate cringe, this one's not for you. By episode two, there's no breaks between Porsche making Stupid Fucking Decisions™️. Every single scene, you can assume he'll take the stupidest, most deranged action possible, without fail. He seemed like a reasonable, serious young man in the first episode, but in the second, we learn he is your average, pos asshole. I'm being so real, it has been four minutes since I wrote the previous paragraph and every time he's on screen the urge to drop this show increases exponentially. It's not even stressful because I KNOW he's going to do something so stupid it feels patently unrealistic. It's annoying in the kind of way that just make you want to leave, there's nothing to be said. I like unlikable characters when done correctly, but this is a type of unlikable that I don't think some backstory can fix. He does something that should end with a bullet between the eyes (because they're the MAFIA, HELLO???? do actions not have consequences????) and all that happens is he gets lightly strangled to sleep. How the hell do you even gently strangle someone??? And everyone else in the room who are literally also mafias are okay with just that??? Sure, yeah, ok, I'll believe it even though me, as a viewer, was as unsatisfied as they should've been.
I cannot properly communicate how disappointing this series is so far. And every new scene I watch, I have to come back to type more because I hate it. I'm STILL IN EPISODE TWO. Every. Single. Scene. Is. Frustrating. I might just start skipping whenever I see Porches face and hope the second couple saves this.
I've made it to episode three with only a single lobotomy, yay. I can't tell if it's Porsche or the author who forgot about the brother he's supposed to care dearly for. He goes out (and thus definitely has service) and doesn't think of him once. Now that Kinn's brother is more front and center, I can see that everything I took issue with in the previous episodes was an attempt at comedy. Not one bit of it landed, including in this episode, but I can at least see where the director thinks I should be laughing.
Episode three marks Porsche taking things slightly more seriously. Unfortunately, I am already rooting for anyone who isn't him AND doesn't like him. He puts himself in more stupid situations that he KNOWS won't go well (and it's also never explained how doing what he wants somehow trumps everyone else's authority. He just leaves his new boss to go work for the old one without consulting either? And it just works out I guess, because it's never addressed 🙂 sure ok. But why write a mafia story?) Someone points a gun and Porsche holds his up for literally two seconds. Two seconds, and then just raises his hand instead? Like bro, at this point just say, "omg babe this isn't you, put the gun down." Wtf is a hand supposed to do against bullets????
Everything's apparently life and death because mafia, but everybody pulls guns out for fun and then doesn't shoot. I thought we were going to get something gritty and real because one dude gets shot for fun in episode one, but that is literally as interesting as it will ever get. The montages of "Oh fun drunk times haha" is literally the most engaging part of this episode and the last. I do not know if the bar can get lower than six feet under, but it's trying. Speaking of the second bar trip, still no sign of giving two shits about his brother. It's like the character from the start is absolutely gone. And they just established its only been a month, so it's not like he should've changed entire personalities.
The "romance" between Kinn and Porsche feels forced. And then it is forced, because Kinn forces a makeout on a drunk Porsche despite Kinn himself seeming almost sober. We're in episode four now, by the way. I haven't had much to compliment in this series, so I'll say this much: the opening song is great. No urge to skip it, especially when I know the episode won't be. The episode recaps go over the last two episodes, which would be awesome if anything happened in them, but is instead just entirely unnecessary. Even to this point, Porsche is unlikable, irritating, and just plain dumb. Takhun is currently the most likable character and, if you're watching the series, you'll understand why that's bad. Vegas was on screen for ten seconds and managed to be the best character so far. The best character otherwise would be Pete, but Pete doesn't dislike Porsche, so he gets points deducted. Jesus, this character is so annoying. I'm sorry, every time I press play, he's doing something fucking stupid. The best thing he's done so far is not be homophobic, which is not a high bar.
Have y'all noticed I haven't mentioned the story at all? It's because there isn't one. I have never cared less about a plot and I haven't even been able to locate this one to care about. Vegas just did something so lame bro, I can't breathe, I need one good character PLEASE. It's not as stupid as Porsche or Kinn's behavior so maybe I just forget it happened? I think this series gives me the ick because I'm just unsatisfied with every little thing at this point. Like the diamond auction?? I could understand gold but wtf gives a shit about diamonds???? A secret auction for a rock with no actual value?? Yeah, the ick. If anything else was believable, I'd overlook a lot, but the show never misses an opportunity to be shit.
Remember that forced romance I mentioned? Well now it's literal, Kinn fucks Porsche when he's drugged at a bar 🙃. I knew it was coming and I still was hoping it'd go different. I'm now in episode five (in about two hours since I began, that's how much I'm skipping and fast forwarding) and I think this is the last one. I can't stomach more of this waiting for a better couple, especially because now that I've seen a bit more of Vegas, my hopes are nonexistent.
I have now seen an additional bit more of Vegas and take back my previous statement. The first couple barely exists, the second couple has yet to acknowledge each other... why is there a third couple? They're cute, as in the people who play then are cute. The characters themselves I couldn't give less of a fuck about and they're scenes push me further out of a drama I was already way out of. Imma get into episode six though, because it's only taking 10mims per ep at this point. I don't know if I can still count this as watching, but I also still get what's going on because there's really not much so. Speaking of episode six, if you're stuck outside with no source of clean water, don't drink river, lake, or pond water until day three, when it's urgent. Parasites exist. Also, this shouldn't need to be said, but if you see a ravine, don't jump over it. Especially if you can clearly see the sides of it bro, fr just walk around, was this necessary???
There is no greater pain than trying to fastforward only to realize you've already been watching at 2x. At this point I'm now aware this is like a series of vaguely mafia themed fantasies the author had and then attempted to string together with a hair thin plot. Its actually a really bearable watch if you keep that in mind. That said, now that I'm on episode seven, I understand and agree that Vegas is saving this show. He won't succeed, but now I just skip to whenever his face shows up. Anyway, I watched about halfway through episode eight and then I was abruptly done. Nothing really happened to make it so, I just didn't want to watch anymore, even with all the skipping.
I won't say don't watch this, but if you're thinking of watching it, you should probably try walking your turtle or teaching your pet bird to swim first, it will be more entertaining 🙂
This was, obviously, written as I watched, so please excuse any confusing sentences/sentence structure.
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BEST SHOW OF THE SEASON!!!
I have seen a few bls and this one really stood out to me. It is trully one of a kind. The story and filmography left me speechless and the editing team has done an amazing work. The soundrack hit me out of nowhere and the grownig relationship between the two main characters is very unique. The plot is outstanding! No matter how hard I try, I can never guess what's going to happen next! I'm watching this with two of my friends and we always look forward to the next episode! I hope many people get to see this so that it will get the praise and recognition it deserves. I trully adore this show and haven't seen anything like it before!Was this review helpful to you?
This series had so much more potential.
Okay, so I've only seen four episodes and a bit of the fifth. But the scenes feel so so random?Like there's comedy and the next second there's this romantic music out of nowhere?
Maybe it's just not my style of editing, but how the heck am I supposed to follow all these twists and turns, and it's not only the scenes, the friendships are really f'ucking weird. If they now have a certain community and vibe of the staff, certain rules to follow - where- I don't know?
Am I alone in feeling that this series and plot had so much more potential?
I can clearly see that they have the budget, so why is the writing so weird?
Still, I will probably finish the series, but I have to stop five times each episode just to process the plot because it all just feels so random and weird.
I just feel like they tried to do a similar thing as "Trapped" but it flopped horribly.
EDIT - I watched ep. 6 (spoilers)
Oh my fucking god. The kiss, the water kiss. They were freezing, Kinn asking for a HUG, hugging, then the gentle kiss that seemed to make Porche weak in the knees, and Kinn then pausing, saying that they have to go up. I guess Kinn felt like it was a bad idea due to his feelings for Porche and Kinn's father saying that it can't happen again (as it did for Kinn with a former lover?)
EDIT 2 - still watching ep 6.
WOW okay, their acting! And the way that Kinn and Porche have gotten so much closer in a healthy way in this episode makes my eyes a bit blurry. This episode made my rating go from a six to a seven. I'm actually glad that I didn't drop the series.
- Samuel [2022]
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You Will Love It - Or Hate It!
This is the first review that I have written where I want to express my opinion in more depth than I usually do, so PLEASE DON'T READ PAST THE SECTION OF MY REVIEW FLAGGED SPOILERS IF YOU HAVE NOT SEEN THE SERIES.BL or LGBTQ?? Is there a difference, I think there is... this show is flagged as 21+ and is not Boys Love!! I don't think it sets a new standard for BL because there will always be an audience for cute, funny, emotional, romantic, with a little drama featuring young adults. This show does NOT fit that category at all.
If you are offended by shows with toxicity, this show is not for you - it's toxic from beginning to end. Adult subject matter, like most movies and shows for mature audiences. Whie this show is not a hard core action, thriller, or even realistic mafia (in my opinion), it does have a great deal of explicit sex, glorified rape, murder, sadistic torture, etc.
Was it a good show? It started out pretty good, but I think it went downhill after the two guys became a couple. The storyline went from good to cheesy for the main couple and the storyline for a secondary couple was just too violent for me.
While there were some scenes I didn't like, I did enjoy this series, and the acting, directing, cinematography, music, everything was high quality!
The actors were really some of the best I have seen, you can tell they put everything they had into each episode. I definitely liked the storyline for Kinn and Porsche (but not the actors, unfortunately) - the dynamics were awesome, to see the various challenges they faced, seeing Kinn as a human being and not just a mob boss, seeing Porsche in love, but not being able to fully trust anyone, there was a lot happening between them. I think the two actors were not appealing to me, but that is personal, I am sure a lot of viewers would disagree
The two brothers - what happened? I liked their story and would have liked to see more of them, but then, what happened? The ending was not really an ending - it was more like a cliffhanger.
SPOILER ALERT!! Don't read if you haven't watched.
Toxicity is one thing but falling in love with someone who practically kills you more than once, just doesn't sit well with me. The second couple thing, I just wasn't feeling it - and I could not feel sorry for Vegas even when he was most pitiable - for me he was nothing short of a monster, and Pete deserved so much better. It was also unrealistic that Kinn didn't think there was anything strange about him disappearing the way Pete just suddenly vanishes without a trace.
The date night, farting under the covers, and other stupid scenes took away from the show.
I would have preferred more screen time for the third and youngest couple, and I didn't like the ending for them, which didn't make any sense at all - why the song? Also, why did I feel like Porsche had no interest in what was going on with his brother that he didn't know Porchay didn't enroll in school and was heartbroken?
Putting the mother in at the end - what was the point? It didn't add anything to the story, in fact I think it was kind of contradictory to the ending.
Porsche who decides he's all in with the whole mafia thing, despite his brother not wanting him to be and his mother being the way she ended up and his father dying because of the mafia? This did not sit well with me.
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Oh boy, this drama is important for BL drama industry...
Well, I gave it a 10, and I don't give 10 easily - out of 236 dramas I've watched I gave 10 only to 10 dramas so far and KP is one of them. The reason: I think that this drama is important for BL drama industry and it will have a huge impact on the future productions. Why? I want to point just a bunch of reasons. (The review might have a slight of spoilers for character development)1. ML is a bad guy and it's working.
We all have seen this kind of plot - bad ML meets a nice ML, they fell in love, then BG stops being bad guy, turning good and his bad deals are forgiven, at the end of the day he is a good person thanks to the good ML... Not here! Lets turn the table - Kinn is a bad guy, a killer, a mafia and he turns our innocent, poor Porsche into a true evil badass that kills without a second thought. What good guys? They are all bad everywhere and we love them, we have to or just drop the drama. This is their life. Kinn can't escape from his evil life. He needs to keep going and since Porsche can't leave him, he decides to give him this bit of a normal life and still accepts his bad side, protects him and supports him along the way.
2. Not healthy relationship but it's working.
I mean Vegas/Pete of course. This relationship, the development of their characters was very hard to portrait, to do it right and at the same time to convince the watchers that sort of relationship is okay, you can watch it. I'm sad that VP didn't get more time screen but the production used their time very good to show us the deep emotions of our leads. Vegas is a very complicated, deep character with huge scars and even trauma. How to turn such a psycho into a lovable lead? Well, he wasn't really lovable... but he made our hearts broke so many times. Oh Vegas... please remember to feed Pete well.
3. Taboos aren't taboos anymore.
Drama isn't scared of hard topics - murders, mafia deals, tortures... Usually when we get mafia drama such topics are either avoided, or our mafia lead turns to be an okay guy and he doesn't use violence or do bad stuff like drugs, kills, etc. KP isn't afraid of shwoing us these things. Thank you, for giving us a mafia which is a mafia through their actions, and not only by their names.
4. Chemistry overload - this is what the desire looks like.
Our MLs love each other very much and we can really see the devotion in their eyes. All the actors did a great job here, they love their roles and put a lot heart into their play.
5. Predictable? Eh, nope.
When you watched many dramas, you can easily predict what is going to happen in episode 3, 6 and 11, right? It's so predictable. Not here! Each time (or rather most of the time) I felt like I knew what would happen it would surprise me and it always gave me nice surprises! The pacing isn't predictable.
6. High production quality - you shouldn't do it so perfectly, 'cause you just killed other dramas.
The music, the color scheme - these artist in the team were amazing! Dude, their know how to do their job and they do it the best! They know what kind of music, what colors and composition use, and how the camera should work during this scene and that scene to make the viewer feels that right emotion and nothing else. This production is so much on a different level.
THIS is how you do the drama! And now that we know that you can do this right, we want more dramas on this higher quality level. I hope that people will watch this drama and learn how to do it. Just do it right. Stop producing predictable crap with no character development and low overall quality. You see, there we got Kinnporsche - a drama about a mafia falling for a regular sweet guy - such a cliche, naive romance, right? And here this fanfic-like-plot turned into a deep masterpiece. Thank you, guys, for showing us that this is possible! I loved it.
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ONE OF THE BEST EVER
I’ve finished watching KP ( I waited until it’s completion and started binge watching ) and I have nothing but praises for this serie, one of the very best I’ve ever watched. It has everything one can search for in a serie, there’s romance, there’s drama, action and comedy. The locations, lights, colors, costumes and then the directing, script and dialogues between characters are superb. You can tell they’ve put all their utmost hard work in this serie.Then I have to talk about the cast, absolutely perfect! I can’t understand how the director found such talented and high quality actors, even the newbies (Bible = Vegas, Barcode= Porchay…). I couldn’t believe this was their first ever serie.
All 3 couples have all their own different yet strong chemistry, their own way to pursue and show their love and their respectively temperaments and charms.
KP has set the standard way too high.
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A BL that is worth watching
Although I'm a fujoshi, I don't watch many BL but read ALOT of BL novels. And of the BLs I watched so far this is so far THE BEST!! I LOVED IT SO MUCH!!The plot was interesting, keeping you in suspense. The acting was excellent and didn't make me cringe. And the chemistry between ALL the couples in the drama is *internally screaming* SO DAMN GOOD!!
And the steamy scenes........*drooling*
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This is definitely a BL that is worth watching.
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"The" BL
Basically, everything I feel watching KinnPorsche (La Forte) was already reviewed here. All the positive ones, I mean.But, this series is also important in the way they show that sexuality, the homosexuality is completely accepted, or better: completely normal in KinnPorsche world. And homosexuality including love, affection and sex. It's not an issue. For example, Mr. Korn being pleased about the relationship between Kinn and Porsche. Even in the Minor Family it's not a issue. And impossible don't mention Vegas-Pete (two of the best construction of characters and of the powerful acting by two first-roles actors, Bible Wichapas Sumettikul and Build Japan Puttha). But all cast deserves recognition.
Search for videos with the cast talking about sexuality, very interesting, informative and totally anti-prejudice.
Talking about the cast, it's impossible don't mention the acting. It's amazing. And KP is the very first role off the majority off the actors: Bible and Build for example.
And impossible not mention the production, it's basically like a first class cinema movie, the stunning cinematography, the soundtrack: Free Fall, by Slot Machine express exactly the vibe of the show.
Well, KinnPorsche it's an experience.
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This is a masterpiece, fight me
It's a new level in thai-dramas, acting skills of the cast are super high. locations, music, colours, aesthetic, story - the highest level.The staff did a greatest job, the story from the novel was changed and it's twice better. It's a real masterpiece, I want to say thanks for the whole staff and cast, you are amazing
I really hope that they will give us season 2 and we won't be disappointed, because this company can make a great things. I really wait for any news about them and I want to continue follow them
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Unique and well-played series
I liked this BL a lot, because the story is different from other BL's. You could really see BOC putted a lot of effort in it and it came out well too. Only I think the story went a bit out the way because mostly you saw Kinn and Porsche doing lovey things instead of really solving problems that were going on. I think the acting was really good! When I watched the BTS I saw they putted a lot of effort in it once again you saw that they were concentrating on doing the best they are able to do and the camera angles even made it better! I liked the music too but sometimes they could've putted it away like in the sex scene of Vegas and Pete, like we were allowed to hear Kinn and Porsches moans then we are allowed to hear Vegas and Petes too. But the music of the scenes with tension and sadness it was done really well. Myself I would really rewatch it for the unique story it was really worth those two years of waiting. And the sex scenes were also really good.Was this review helpful to you?
All the hype isn't there for nothing.
I'm here to say, this is by far the BEST show I've watched that really brought something to the audience, serving nothing but talent, striking visuals, and excellent cinematography. Since I've seen some people be really 'bitter' about this show's morals and this being only s*x scenes and whatnot, zip it up and see for yourself if it's worth the hype or not.It's a Mafia BL and, surprise surprise, supposed to be dark and intense but they DO NOT justify the grey morality moments AT ALL. Some people jump to conclusions way too soon for their good.
It's not always required for one guy to be 'feminine' in a gay relationship, portraying a 'female' because that's bullsh*t. Everyone may vary and not necessarily have a 'damsel in distress' type persona. Men in this series stood up for themselves and needed no 'man in shining armor to lock them away in some tower for safety'.
Kinn and Porsche give Alpha×Alpha vibes that are SO rare and such a switch up from what's mainstream, I feel that's why it's special.
For me, it was worth every second each Saturday I stood awake for the episode release. I'd wax poetry any day about how MileApo's chemistry and the production team just delivered every single time. Unlike some eye-candy engaging in awkward attempts of romance catering solely to the enjoyment of hetero women, using taboo themes as plot devices no matter how wrong they seem, (yeah I'm calling out this one show that was way more hyped than it delivered) everyone went in depths to portray what they're supposed to, went into the character and not just for the 'camera'. You could see in behind the scene and what the actors themselves say, they have even had hard times breaking away from their character after a scene.
BibleBuild hit the nail spot on with their screentime, despite being short, had quite the impact as Vegas and Pete quickly became one of the most loved side couples in the BL industry. As well as KimChay, though it would've been better if they had more scenes to develop properly.
How unique and powerful is the characterization here!!! Literal art for some scenes.
Having a few OSTs that make you FEEL, especially 'Why Don't You Stay' is GOLD and matches just well with the scenes they pair with.
Storywise, there were some cliche spots, yet chemistry on and off camera just somehow makes it up for me. Everyone looked good, brought justice and liveliness to their characters in the best way, making it a hell of a journey for more than 3 months. Watching Kinnporsche was one of the best choices I made. The dramatic fandom is the cherry on top, ngl.
It ended yesterday with EP 14 being the longest and in my opinion one of the best ones. It somehow feels empty now and I have no sense of what I'm gonna do next lmao, but with the discussions being brought up about some obvious plot holes and secrets that are yet to be revealed, I'm crossing fingers for a Season 2.
I NEED S2 to survive.
All the hype isn't there for nothing.
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