Notes from our thread:
One thing I see is as of right now in chapter 1and 2 WXY is developing some feelings towards YSQ. She does not know anything about her parents love story. So she is not influenced by that.
peng-peng:One thing I see is as of right now in chapter 1and 2 WXY is developing some feelings towards YSQ. She does not know anything about her parents love story. So she is not influenced by that.
it's something that I have been saying since long time ago. But some are convinced that her falling for Shi Qi had to do with her mom history. Personally I don't think so. I don't think falling in love is something that could be control or avoid and therefore , would she be repeating her mom case is sometimes not to do with what her heart does. and yep she developed attraction to Shi Qi since chapter 1. when she had no idea about who he is.
Your observation is astute!.
As of Chapters 1 and 2, it appears that WXY (Xiao Liu) is developing some genuine feelings towards Yeshiqi (YSQ). The narrative, at this point, seems to focus on the organic growth of emotions between them without being influenced by the backdrop of her parents' love story.
This detachment from her parents' narrative allows for a more authentic exploration of WXY's feelings. Her emotional journey seems to be an independent entity, shaped by her own experiences, fears, and the nuances of her interactions with Yeshiqi. The absence of knowledge about her parents' love story serves as a canvas on which a new tale of affection and connection is painted.
This narrative choice not only adds a layer of freshness to the storyline but also allows WXY and YSQ's relationship to unfold organically, unburdened by the expectations or shadows of a previous generation's romance. It provides an opportunity for their connection to be a standalone narrative, with its own set of challenges, misunderstandings, and, hopefully, a unique resolution.
As the story progresses, it will be fascinating to observe how WXY's feelings evolve, intertwining with YSQ's character development and the overarching plot. The absence of parental influence might also contribute to a sense of liberation or, conversely, present its own set of challenges as the characters navigate the uncharted territory of their emotions.
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MIRROR ANALYSIS
After Xiao Liu was done and approved of the results, he grabbed his precious mirror
Magical Mirror
- Coping Mechanism and Empowerment:
//Deeper analysis (taking account of the full story of the mirror from Xiao Liu's past from ch.9//
"Mirror of Triumph: Xiao Liu's Symbolic Coping and Resilience in the Face of Past Torment"
Xiao Liu's actions with the mirror and his irreverent depiction might be connected to his past experiences with the Nine-tailed fox and the snake torturer.
Symbolic Continuation of Coping Mechanism:
Xiao Liu's irreverent depiction of Xiang Liu can be seen as a continuation of coping mechanisms developed during his captivity with the Nine-tailed fox and the snake. Humor might have been a survival tactic in his past, and by employing it again with Xiang Liu, Xiao Liu is maintaining a consistent approach to deal with challenging situations.
Transformation of Traumatic Symbols:
The irreverent image in the mirror could be a symbolic transformation of traumatic symbols from Xiao Liu's past. Just as he had to endure captivity and torment by the Nine-tailed fox and the snake, he is now turning a potentially menacing figure, Xiang Liu, into a source of amusement and defiance.
Empowerment Through Mockery:
Creating a disrespectful image of Xiang Liu may serve as a way for Xiao Liu to feel empowered in the face of past tormentors. It transforms the narrative from one of victimhood to one where Xiao Liu actively engages in mocking and resisting those who have caused him harm.
Defying Patterns of Abuse:
Xiao Liu's actions might also represent a conscious effort to defy the established patterns of abuse in his past. By turning Xiang Liu into a figure of mockery, he is subverting the traditional power dynamic between victim and abuser, demonstrating that he refuses to be defined solely by the role of a victim.
Building Resilience Through Humor:
Humor becomes a consistent thread in Xiao Liu's response to trauma. Just as he may have used humor to endure the captivity with the Nine-tailed fox and the snake, he is now using it to build resilience in the face of a potentially abusive relationship with Xiang Liu.
Shifting Perceptions of Authority:
By mocking Xiang Liu, Xiao Liu might be intentionally altering the perception of authority associated with his past tormentors. It's a way of dismantling the fear and intimidation that these figures might evoke by reducing them to objects of amusement.
Creating a Narrative of Triumph:
The irreverent image can be viewed as a narrative of triumph over past traumas. Xiao Liu is not only surviving but actively reshaping the stories of his abusers, turning them into comical figures in his ongoing journey of healing and self-discovery.
In conclusion, Xiao Liu's actions with the mirror and his irreverent depiction are intricately connected to his past experiences with the Nine-tailed fox and the snake. Through humor and defiance, he continues to navigate and transform the traumatic symbols of his past, asserting agency and resilience in the process. We shall see more, later in chapter 9.
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Chapter 3 - A Journey through Testing and the way out
Xiao Liu and Ye Shiqi's Dynamic:
Protective Sacrifice:
Ye Shiqi's decision to remain in the shadows is not merely an act of protection but a profound sacrifice. By choosing anonymity, he not only shields Xiao Liu from physical harm but also assumes the burden of a concealed identity, navigating a complex dance of secrecy.
This sacrifice introduces an element of emotional martyrdom, as Ye Shiqi willingly shoulders the weight of hidden truths to preserve Xiao Liu's innocence. The narrative thus delves into the psychological toll of such sacrifices on both characters.
Emotional Turmoil:
Xiao Liu's internal struggle becomes a battleground of conflicting emotions. Her reliance on others clashes with a deeply ingrained self-reliance born out of past traumas. This internal turmoil becomes a poignant exploration of her vulnerabilities, showcasing the emotional intricacies within her character.
Ye Shiqi's actions serve as a soothing melody to this internal discord, addressing not only the external threats but also the delicate melody of Xiao Liu's fears and desires.
-Xiao Liu: "I've killed since I was young, but today, I wanted to kill them."
Ye Shiqi: "They are Gods."
Xiao Liu: "What of it?"
Ye Shiqi, a silently noded, revealing a profound understanding of Xiao Liu's inner struggles.
Why Humor?:
Xiao Liu's use of humor in dire situations becomes a coping mechanism, a defense mechanism that allows her to navigate the complexities of her emotions.
The humor, laced with a touch of sarcasm, becomes Xiao Liu's shield against the overwhelming gravity of the circumstances she encounter. It reflects her resilience and her ability to find lightness even in the darkest moments. Xiao Liu's use of humor is a testament to her strength, a way to deflect the weight of encounters she faces. It's not just a defense mechanism but a display of her indomitable spirit.
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Introduction of New Characters:
Ah Nian's :
Ah Nian's cruelty extends beyond mere characterization; it becomes a narrative device to explore the shadows lurking within the world. Her sadistic tendencies not only highlight individual malevolence but also serve as a reflection of societal darkness.
The narrative, through Ah Nian, raises questions about the corrupting influence of power, illustrating how an unchecked ego can lead to the erosion of empathy and morality. Ah Nian's character becomes a cautionary tale, a walking manifestation of the potential consequences of unchecked power dynamics.
-Ah Nian: "My rule is whomever offended me must die! Xuan gege won’t let me hurt anyone so I won’t hurt anyone, but I’ll make him perform tricks."
Ah Nian's dialogue serves as a chilling proclamation of her sadistic tendencies, painting a vivid picture of this trait of her character.
C.Xuan's:
Xuan's is described as a virtuous character that transcends being a mere foil to Ah Nian. His respectful and empathetic demeanor serves as a moral anchor in the story, questioning the essence of power and its relationship with virtue.
The narrative subtly explores the idea that kindness and understanding, even in the face of power, can be a transformative force.
-C.Xuan: "I am Xuan, and this is my cousin Ah Nian. Our servant girl Hai Tang has been poisoned by young master you, so I came personally to ask young master to give us the antidote."
Xuan's polite and respectful dialogue highlights the stark contrast between him and Ah Nian.
Xiang L.:
Xiang Liu's forceful actions are not just a display of dominance, as the narrative hints at the complexities over control vs submission.
- Xiao Liu suddenly couldn’t open his mouth anymore.
“Nnnnngggg…….nnnnngggg……” - "Don’t hit the face. "
- Xiao Liu glared angrily :" that’s my blanket, Shi Qi took it out and aired it under the warm sun all day and beat it until it was nice and fluffy. Xiao Liu wrapped himself up in a blanket and curled into a ball in the corner of the pallet and resentfully fell asleep.
Their interaction transform as she seek to regain (even through humor) - the control on her well being. XL has lost the power he had over WXL. She is not scared of him any more realising that he needs her blood to heal himself. She wins in this psychological battleground.
Relief in Ye Shiqi's Presence:
As Xiao Liu faces the unsettling encounter with Xiang Liu, her relief upon seeing Ye Shiqi becomes palpable. It's not just the physical protection he provides but a reassurance of familiarity, a sanctuary amidst chaos.
- Xiao Liu, exhaling in relief: "I thought I was done for, but then I saw it was you, not him."
This moment of relief encapsulates the depth of Xiao Liu's trust in Ye Shiqi and th e profound impact he has on her sense of safety.
****Sun Blanket, Soap:
- "The comforter had been laundered and dried under the sun. Xiao Liu laughed and reminded himself not to get used to it. All people will leave and he can’t get coddled, his life was to sleep in a cold blanket, in a dirty blanket. Xiao Liu finished reminding himself before turning around and falling fast asleep. Sun & Blanket& Soap:
The choice of the narrative to focus on the moment with the soap and sun, and the loundred blanket becomes a celebration of Xiao Liu's journey towards self-care and healing. The sun, in its gentle embrace, becomes a metaphor for the warmth of Ye Shiqi's presence, bringing light into the shadows that linger on Xiao Liu .
Soap symbol:
The ritualistic washing with the soap introduces a cleansing motif, both physically and emotionally. It becomes a shared act of purification, a moment of vulnerability intertwined with trust.
Unspoken Bonds&Promises:
As Xiao Liu reveals his violent past and expresses a desire for revenge, the arrival of Xuan and Ah Nian marks a pivotal moment. However, it is Ye Shiqi's subtle actions that reveal layers of complexity in his character.
Xiao Liu's admission of past violence (she have killed before) sets a tone of tension, and Shi Qi's agreement to help him suggests a unique connection between the two characters. The introduction of Xuan and Ah Nian brings external conflict, and Xiao Liu's initial bravado is met with surprise as he collapses after a confrontation.
The critical moment occurs when Shi Qi mysteriously disappears, leaving Xiao Liu vulnerable. Xuan's surprise at Xiao Liu's weakness hints at a miscalculation, and Xiao Liu's subsequent derisive smile adds a layer of her inner complexity to the scene.
However!The most intriguing element lies in Xiao Liu's reflection on Shi Qi's disappearance. As he questions whether Shi Qi hid to avoid recognition, a deeper motivation emerges.
Quote (ch3): - "'You were afraid they would recognize you so you hid? Or you thought I shouldn’t have messed with them so you hid so they could get the antidote?'"
=>It becomes apparent that Shi Qi's decision to conceal his identity is not rooted in a fear of facing his past- but rather, it is a deliberate choice to protect Xiao Liu.***
The key revelation lies in the understanding that Ye Shiqi's motive is not self-centered or based on a personal aversion to his own history. Instead, it is a selfless act, driven by a desire to please Xiao Liu. AS, Xiao Liu's repeated sentiments about Ye Shiqi leaving her one day have clearly resonated. In hiding his identity, Ye Shiqi seeks to alleviate Xiao Liu's anxieties, to reassure her that their bond can continue and evolve without the looming threat of abandonment.
This subtle yet profound decision to stay in the shadows is a testament to Ye Shiqi's understanding of Xiao Liu's fears and insecurities. It showcases a nuanced approach to their relationship, where the preservation and growth of their connection take precedence over personal concerns.
In essence, Ye Shiqi's actions speak volumes about the depth of his feelings for Xiao Liu and his commitment to their shared journey. It adds a layer of poignancy to the unfolding narrative, leaving readers to ponder the intricacies of love, sacrifice, and the unspoken promises that bind these characters together.
=> So he protected her from being backfired if he helped her out (knowing who she intend to kill) and also for protecting the part of her that desire him by her side forever ( her repeatingly saying - one day you will leave me.
*His motives are very clear:
=> Ye Shiqi's decision to hide his identity and protect Xiao Liu from the potential consequences of their actions serves a dual purpose:
Protection from Backlash:
- By concealing his identity, Ye Shiqi safeguards Xiao Liu from potential backlash or reprisals that might arise if his true nature or past were revealed. He unders- tands the risks involved and chooses to shield her from any negative consequences.
Preserving Their Bond:
- Simultaneously, Ye Shiqi's actions are motivated by a desire to preserve and strengthen their bond. He is attuned to Xiao Liu's fears of abandonment, and by preventing any potential fallout, he seeks to reassure her that their connection is enduring and that he intends to stay by her side.
To conclude :
Ye Shiqi's protective stance is not just about shielding Xiao Liu from external threats but also about nurturing the emotional aspect of their relationship. It reflects a profound understanding of Xiao Liu's vulnerabilities and a commitment to being a constant and reassuring presence in her life. The complexity of these motivations adds depth to their narrative, elevating the emotional resonance of their evolving connection even in hardship.
In the very end of the episode 5, we Xiao Liu, realise, turn around to face him, and tell him with a smile: " Let's go together".
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Navigating LINKS:
Prologue & Chapter 1: https://mydramalist.com/discussions/lost-you-forever/122337-tong-hua-s-xiaojing-drama-novel-exploration-x1f49c?page=1
Chapter 3:: https://mydramalist.com/discussions/lost-you-forever/122337-tong-hua-s-xiaojing-drama-novel-exploration-x1f49c?page=2 &https://mydramalist.com/discussions/lost-you-forever-season-2/122339-tong-hua-s-xiaojing-drama-novel-exploration-x1f49c?p=2928519&page=3
So we are now in chapter 4..
My Analysis Part 1
The Nice & Easy Make Up Between Wen Xiao Liu & Ye Shi Qi
The Autumn afternoon is the most beautiful time of the day. When no one was direly ill, Xiao Liu liked taking a big lily frond to cover his eyes and laying on the straw pallet used to dry herbs. He raised his two arms over his head against his ears and his two legs would naturally stick straight out as well with his toes pointed. His entire body was straight like a line and in his imagination his body could extend forever. That feeling of stretching, paired with the warm sun, the fragrant lily frond, it was like drinking wine into the bones and being slightly tipsy.
He once encouraged Ma Zi and Lao Mu to bask in the sun in the same way but both felt it was super embarrassing and refused to copy him. So this wonderful feeling, Xiao Liu can only experience it alone.
Xiao Liu was done stretching and lowered his arms and pulled the frond off his eyes to look at Shi Qi cutting the medicine. After Ma Zi had his baby, he was almost living full time at Butcher Gao’s. Normally Chuan Zi would do some more chores but these past three months he was always out of the clinic doing god knows what. Only Shi Qi remained in the clinic but Xiao Liu didn’t feel like his work load increased and instead felt more at ease. Whatever he wanted to do he would discover Shi Qi already did it.
Xiao Liu sat up on the pallet and put the frond on his head and intently watched Shi Qi working. Shi Qi had his head lowered cutting the medicine and after he was done and put the medicine into satchels he went to work on another batch.
Xiao Liu called “Shi Qi.” Shi Qi stopped and looked up at Xiao Liu silently. “Hhhmmm….” Xiao Liu shook his head “Nothing.” Shi Qi lowered his head and went back to work. “Shi Qi.” Shi Qi stopped again but this time didn’t look up at Xiao Liu though he was listening. “You rest for a bit!”
“Not tired.” Shi Qi went back to work.
Xiao Liu took off the frond and looked at Shi Qi, tearing pieces off the front until it was in strips. Lao Mu and Chuan Zi never sensed that he was mad at Shi Qi. But Xiao Liu and Shi Qi both knew – in the beginning Shi Qi wanted to apologize but Xiao Liu pretended to be clueless and was instead even more polite and courteous. Gradually Shi Qi stopped trying and would only silently follow him like a shadow, finishing the work that three people used to do.
“Shi Qi………” Shi Qi raised his head to look at Xiao Liu but Xiao Liu didn’t know what he wanted to say. He bit his lip and suddenly smiled and patted the space next to him “You come here, I’ll show you something fun.”
Shi Qi put down his chores and walked over. Xiao Liu laid down and explained to Shi Qi what to do, showing him how to bask in the sun like he was doing. Shi Qi was not like Ma Zi and Chuan Zi and immediately followed suit. Xiao Liu squinted as he counted the clouds above, feeling content and letting out a sigh. Even though it was the same sun warming him, the same pallet he was laying on, but two people basking under the sun felt particularly nice for some reason.
Xiao Liu was almost falling asleep when Shi Qi’s voice spoke “There won’t be a second time.”
It is such a nice start with Xiao Liu instructing her eas healing method with Ye Shi Qi, it is a healing she could not share with her other buddies at Hui Chun Clinic, because they just don't share this life with her. Ye Shi Qi was diligent as usual and finishing all the work for her, as well as to share her healing, and he finally get the strength to appologize for what he did. I particularly find this scene beautiful with the two of them basking under the sun at autumn time, healing together. It is indeed like drinking wine into the bones and being slightly tipsy.
Teasing & Shadowing Intimacy/Passion
Lao Mu grabbed Xiao Liu and they raced through the alleys until they saw Chuan Zi and the prostitute talking in the shadowy corner. Then they started kissing and Xiao Liu watched with a wide grin but Lao Mu was furious and upset. Xiao Liu peeked at Shi Qi who was standing straight but kept his eyes lowered on his shoes and giving them privacy.
The two of them against the wall got more heated and the girl was making moaning noises. Lao Mu wanted to rush out but didn’t know how to handle this awkward situation. He told Xiao Liu “You deal with it!” before huffing off.
Xiao Liu didn’t bother with Lao Mu and was instead laughing at Shi Qi and inched over “A scion of a well born family, even if unmarried there must be pretty serving maids in the house. How were the maids around you compared to this girl?”
Shi Qi said nothing and was trying to inch away from Xiao Liu but he was already against the wall. Xiao Liu restrained his laugh and continued to be his evil self. He pressed his hands against the wall around Shi Qi and trapped him, much like a playboy trying to seduce a gentle lady. “What kind of girls do you like? An innocent fresh-faced type, or a girl like this who is passionate?”
In the sound of the woman’s moans, Shi Qi’s face was starting to turn beet red and Xiao Liu was laughing inside so hard he was about to bust a gut. His evil naughty side was in control and he pressed close to Shi Qi’s face and asked “You want some, too?”
Unexpectedly, Shi Qi raised his head and despite the faint blush, his clear eyes were filled with laughter. Xiao Liu was stunned and the only thought he had in his head was “A wolf in sheep’s clothing!”
Xiao Liu was so embarrassed and it was his turn to blush red so he vented his frustration out on Chuan Zi. He rushed forward yelling “Chuan Zi! Where did you get the nerve to learn to whore! Where did you get the money?
I guess we have all notice that female to male attraction Xiao Liu held for Shi Qi since chapter 1. And in this scene I think it actually let out some of her unconscious attraction although she may just be teasing. I mean his refine manners roused her. She did all those naughty act, only to be met with his "laughter" or wolf inside of him, which brought up her feminine fragile side, and went all red. It's sort of backfired too. And I feel all those that happening surrounding add the intimacy feeling and even shadowing passion?..which is coated by gentle manner between them.
This scene to me is sync with the kiss scene in chapter 20. .where she compared him to the wolf. (I will compare this scene to Xiao Yao and Xiang Liu seeing mermaid couple doing that too. There's differences)
Chapter 4:
This part is going to be a bit different because im discussing about Xiao Liu scenes with others than with Shi Qi. But somehow its essential to plot..
My Analysis Part 2
The Precious Mirror and Past Memory
Inside his room, Xiao Liu laid on his pallet with his legs up looking at his precious little mirror and giggling. The image inside the mirror was all his glorious handiwork that night. He drew nine heads on Xiang Liu’s face and his icy eyes were glaring at him like daggers.
Xiao Liu stared at the mirror and flicked Xiang Liu’s head “Go ahead and rage! Go ahead and rage!” After he was done flicking, he wiped the mirror and it returned to its original state. It appeared just a bit more ornate than an ordinary mirror but there was no sign that it contained anything from the past.
This seemingly ordinary mirror was actually created from the spiritual essence of a mythical gorilla type beast in the inner wild desert region. It was vicious and had the power to see into the past. It was a power that worked against nature so it was hard to develop this ability and these beasts were even rarer to encounter. And a mirror created from the spiritual essence of such a beast, there was only one such mirror in existence. The reason was that to seal the spiritual essence of such a beast into an magical object and have it show the past required the beast to be completely willing without a shred of anger. But there was no such beast who endured the painful training to develop such a power to see the past who would be willing to die without any anger.
Xiao Liu tucked the mirror away and put his hands behind his head. After that night, many months had passed and Xiang Liu never showed up again. So many people were looking to take him down so it’s normal for him not to appear. If he did appear Xiao Liu would feel like his life had reached the end. So Xiao Liu prayed every day for more people to be looking to take him down. Make his life so busy that he completely forgot about Qing Shui Town and one Wen Xiao Liu.
.......skip!
The tree was very high and could see far from the vantage point. The winding river glowed silver in the moonlight and if it wasn’t the middle of the Winter with the blustery wind blowing then the view would be perfect.
He’s here!
Xiao Liu raised his head and a white condor carrying Xiang Liu dove down from the center of the moon. White hair, white robe, flying down from the sky like falling snow, he softly landed beside Xiao Liu.
Xiao Liu said “Three choices. Whip me 40 times. Kick me off from here. Or listen to me say something important. Important!”
Xiang Liu asked “Did you bathe?”
Xiao Liu was still cheeky “Bathed super clean, just waiting for my lord to arrive.”
Xiang Liu’s hand grabbed Xiao Liu’s shoulder and he lowered his head. Xiao Liu docilely tipped back his neck and when Xiang Liu’s sharp fang pierced his skin and started drinking his blood, Xiao Liu didn’t close his eyes and instead looked at the moon.
Xiang Liu wasn’t holding back and Xiao Liu gradually felt lightheaded. “Are you planning to suck me dry all at once? Even if you have nine heads, I didn’t hear that you had nine stomachs! Can’t you save some for next time?”
Xiang Liu’s lips were still on Xiao Liu’s neck and was right next to the artery that led straight to the heart “When do you think I should bite down right here? Tonight?”
Xiao Liu immediately countered “Not tonight since it’s too pretty out. Killing me is such a mood ruining thing to do, wait for the day when I really want to kill you.”
“You don’t want to kill me?”
Xiao Liu smiled “No! You clearly know I don’t want to kill you, and I won’t kill you.”
“I don’t know. All I know is that you ought to hate me.”
“You don’t know and you dared to come see me while still nursing your injury? You really see me as a harmless bunny rabbit? Or are your nine brains fighting with each other and now you’re stupid because none of them work?”
Xiang Liu leaned in to clearly continue his meal so Xiao Liu quickly added “Because I’m lonely!” Xiang Liu’s lips pressed against his neck and didn’t move.
“No matter if you believe me or not, but I really don’t hate you at all and don’t want to kill you. Because I’m very lonely. I developed a strange tic when I was hiding in the deep mountains and went many years without encountering another person. I caught a monkey and started talking to it all day long. The monkey tried to escape and when it couldn’t it actually hit its head against the cave wall and committed suicide. Later on, I encountered a snake that wanted to eat me and almost bit off my leg. But it could understand what I was saying and reacted to whatever I said. I knew it was dangerous but I couldn’t help myself and could constantly go prance around in front of it. It was so furious it almost went insane. Having it around, it wasn’t so lonely in the mountains anymore.” Xiao Liu laughed “After some time, he discovered I was super sneaky and wanted to leave but I wouldn’t let it and kept bothering it so it kept trying to kill me.”
Xiao Liu looked up at the moon and there was an indescribable sadness in his eyes “They say the Heavens favors the tribes of the Gods, but I think it favors the humans. They are just like the Gods in every way except their lives are so short in comparison. Look at the moon, it’s been there like that for the last thousand years. No matter how beautiful a sight one will still get tired of it.
“That snake, what happened afterwards?”
“Died!”
“You killed it?”
“No, the King of the fox tribe.”
“Nine-tailed fox?”
Xiao Liu shut his
“The Nine-tailed fox wanted to kill me but the snake believed only it could eat me so it blocked the path of that vicious fox…so it ended up dead!”
Xiang Liu softly chuckled “Interesting. And the fox?”
“I killed it.”
“You’re that powerful?”
“He should have killed me the moment he caught me. But he was consumed by hatred and greed. He used various special creatures to feed to me, forcing me to eat eat many disgusting things, all so that he could make me nice and plump before eating me. He intended to use my mythical blood to help him recover his lost powers……Oh, I forgot to tell you, he wasn’t a Nine-tailed fox by then, just an eight tail since he got a tail cut off so his powers were severely depleted. He raised me for thirty years and right when he was about to partake of the victory, one day he accidentally got drunk in front of me.”
“He kept you locked up in a cage?”
“Yup.”
Xiang Liu was silent for a moment and his hand was massaging Xiao Liu’s neck “Am I the snake to help alleviate your loneliness?”
Xiao Liu smiled “Who knows? Perhaps I’m the snake who is amusing you.”
Xiang Liu released him “The important thing!”
“Does the brothel on Dong Gui street belong to you guys?”
“Why are you asking?”
“Chuan Zi wants a prostitute from there.”
“You want to ask me to help you secure her freedom?”
“Does that brothel belong to you guys? I guess not. It doesn’t seem like the way you operate anyways.” Xiao Liu smiled and a light glinted in his eye “No need to help me, I’ll go ask another person for help.”
The white condor Furball flew back and was circling overhead. Xiang Liu lightly leaped up and landed on the condor’s back “This was your important business?”
“Er…..Chuan Zi’s marriage is important………..Ah——”
Xiao Liu’s branch suddenly snapped in half and he fell, slamming through various other branches and causing Xiao Liu to start spitting up blood. Wham, Xiao Liu finally landed on the ground as a swirl of dirt blew up around him.
Furball was so happy and circling low overhead to mock Xiao Liu. Xiang Liu stood on his back with a smile “You are the snake egg that anyone can eat.” Furball rose higher and Xiang Liu left.
This gorilla mirror is precious because it has to have essence of gorilla's spirit who was willing to die without anger. The mirror was able to record past memory. We can see Xiao Liu enjoyed seeing Xiang Liu in rage, something she thought she was able to get the hell out of him. Yet she was also very scared. Their relationship will be more explained in the next scene. In this scene we could Xiao Liu love to take risks to help his buddies. In here is Chuang Zi to get married with Tian Er. Once she knew she came for the wrong person, she just turn to leave. At the same time, she got to let out her chatty nature and about the monkey and the snake. And that she's actually lonely soul by looking at the moon. Because she never wanted to believe if anyone could stay with her although she wanted someone to stay with her. She knew that her buddies at Hui Chun will all die before her and thought Shi Qi could leave her at anytime too. I think she tried best to not give into Shi Qi completely because she did not dare to hope. I she could guess h's lonely too? And yess she got hurt again. I think the reason he hurt her here is because she risked her life to help others (help Chuang Zi get married)..their relationship is just like before, mixtured with her fear but letting it out(releasing) too at once , and he's capable of hurting her physical if he got sort of annoyed and yep he made sure that he was the one to control situation.
Discussing Tian Er matters with Xuan
Xuan arrived and Xiao Liu warmly poured everyone a bowl of wine. Lao Mu and Chuan Zi drank their wine and promptly fell over fast asleep. Xuan smiled at Xiao Liu while Shi Qi quietly sat to the side. Xiao Liu said to Xuan “I asked you here to ask for something.”
“Please tell.”
“Chuan Zi wants Xan Tian Er, so can you help make it happen.” Xuan said nothing. Xiao Liu earnestly added “I know this seems rather abrupt but Chuan Zi’s marriage is very important so I am shamelessly asking you.”
“Why does Brother Liu think I can help?”
“I don’t know the true identity of you or Ah Nian but I know you are from no ordinary background. I was curious and wanted to asked around but you sniffed it out. If Brother Xuan wanted to help then you can.” Xiao Liu tried to be extra buddy buddy and called him Brother Xuan.
Xuan glanced at Shi Qi “Ah Nian and I just want to live a quiet life.”
“Yes, yes, I know. I promise I won’t bother you guys ever.”
Xuan stared at Xiao Liu who smiled “I have lived in Qing Shui Town for over twenty years. I am just me.”
Xuan got up to leave “Remember to invite me for the wedding banquet.”
So finally Xiao Liu had made the plead to the right person, for Chaung Zi and Tiar Er. And Xuan was a lot easier to deal with. According to the conversation, Xuan did not really want to get anyone to get trouble. We can see how he treat every level of people equally and how good of a wine seller he was. And how he was even impressed by prostitutes. In their particularly this conversation, in some way, he would have liked a peaceful and family as well.
Tian Er Took Her Chance With Chaung Zi
“Why did you seduce Chuan Zi? I don’t believe you would spare him a second glance.”
“I’ve been seeing customers since I was thirteen and in the twelve years since I’ve seen enough guys. Chuan Zi may not have much but he’s the only one willing the marry me.” Tian Er smiled “Three months ago, a man came to me and gave me money to seduce Chuan Zi. I don’t have much position at the brothel so if I don’t save up then I’ll starve to death when I get old. I agreed and Chuan Zi never had a woman before so I just let him sample what a woman can give and he immediately vowed to marry me. Since I was thirteen such words leave me numb and I never believed it. But I can’t believe you guys really did come and buy my freedom. The madam hated that I found a guy behind her back so she purposely raised the price high. But last night the man came again and gave me another sack of money and said the deal between us was done. If I wanted to marry Chuan Zi, then use that money to buy my own freedom.”
“Do you recognize that man?”
Tian Er shook her head “Brother Liu knows, the gods and demons can all change their looks. I’m just a human.” Tian Er knelt down “Twelves years as a prostitute and my heart is cold and hard. Even now I don’t believe Chuan Zi won’t discard me one day and plans to live an entire lifetime with me. But I can try it, if Chuan Zi really wants to be with me….” Tian Er raised her hand “I solemnly swear to the Heavens that I will be true to him.”
Xiao Liu looked at Tian Er and said nothing.
Tian Er lowered her head and her voice was soft “A cold and hard heart can keep out the pain, but also keeps out the joy. I really want a man to turn me back twelve years ago, let my heart soften so that I can cry and laugh. If Chuan Zi is that man, then I will treasure him more than my own life.”
Tian Er was very honest with Xiao Liu. It all started with scheming and lies. Although Tian Er never really believe in Chaung Zi, she was willing to give herself and him a chance. Even to truthful to him. I really like Tian Er because it seems her soul never dies. I mean she's definetly is willing to give in to family life, not the life full of momentary service and lies. In other words, although born in the life she may not enjoy, but with chance coming she's willing to get into something she wants more.
Chapter 4: Gathering is hard Parting is easy
My Analysis Part 3
Xiao Liu & Shi Qi Touching Moments
The sun hadn’t even rose when Shi Qi tracked him down and found Xiao Liu curled up within a tangle of broken branches. He looked totally beaten up but was sleeping with a slight smile on his lips. Shi Qi knelt down and slowly picked off the leaves on his head and saw that there were two fresh bite marks on Xiao Liu’s neck. It was slightly hidden underneath his collar with the red teeth impression vaguely showing the imprint of a pair of lips.
Xiao Liu’s eyelid fluttered open “Shi Qi?” He opened his eyes and smiled “I can’t walk again.”
Shi Qi piggybacked the docile Xiao Liu on his back. Xiao Liu rested for three days and when he was able to move around on crutches had Lao Mu make a few dishes and invited Xuan over to drink.
After Xiao Liu was thrown off from the high tree, Shi Qi again came to find her. Xiao Liu was clingy towards Shi Qi again. The way her eyelid fluttered open indicating show her clingy nature. She was just so happy to see him. And the drama made this scene very sweet.
Xiao Liu Take On Chaung Zi & San Tier Er
Xiao Liu started nattering “This is actually an interesting gamble. Tian Er doesn’t believe Chuan Zi will want to be with her forever so right now she’s giving him all fake affection. But the more Tian Er is nice to him, the more Chuan Zi is nicer to her. The fake affection will gradually be mixed with real feeling, and as a lifetime passes even the false becomes true. But during this process it’s not without risk. Tian Er is gambling with her heart and if Chuan Zi dared to discard her then one of them is going to end up dead.”
Xiao Liu laughed “My life is very long, I can wait to see the outcome.”
Shi Qi looked at the two people “Xuan, why?”
Xiao Liu answered “Last time I snuck into his place to eat chicken and he started being wary of me. He used Tian Er to find out who was behind me. If I asked Xiang Liu to help then that’ll create an even bigger problem down the road. Even though he doesn’t think I’m completely trustworthy, but time will show him that I really am not involved in anything. Let’s not catch a cold with them so head back.”
Xiao Liu handed his crutches to Shi Qi and playfully hopped back to the house. When he hopped on the stoop there was a thin layer of ice that Xiao Liu wasn’t looking out for so he fell backwards into Shi Qi’s arms. Xiao Liu tried to grab the crutches in Shi Qi’s hands but came up empty and fell back into his arms again.
The two of them stared at each other in silence. “That…..thank you.” Xiao Liu turned and hopped back into the house.
Again the drama make the scene more touching. However, Xiao Liu falling into Shi Qi's arms and their stare scenes are still romantic enough for me. But in drama he carried and their shyness, which is such an awesome adding.
Xiao Liu seemed quite taken by Tian Er taking chance with Chaung Zi. I have this feeling that she was scared to get attach to anybody yet she longed for others company. She was curious if Tian Er made the right choice . This encounterment with Tian Er again had some influence over Xiao Liu/Xiao Yao in the future too.
Was Xiao Liu fear of Shi Qi disappearing up into cloud?
In the middle of the banquet, Ah Nian arrived. When Xiao Liu turned around, Shi Qi was already gone. Lao Mu warmly welcomed her and she nodded to Lao Mu while telling Xuan “Xuan gege, Hai Tang said you were at a wedding banquet here.”
Xuan stood up to leave but Ah Nian put down a handkerchief and sat down “Xuan gege, I’ve never seen such a banquet before, let them continue.” Xiao Liu was about to spit up blood and even Chuan Zi was about to flip tables but Xan Tian Er stopped him with a smile “Let’s toast the lady.”
Ah Nian stuck her nose up “I’m not going to drink since your cups aren’t clean.” Xiao Liu kept repeating over and over “I need to endure her, I need to endure her……”
In this scene, we can see clearly Shi Qi avoiding A Nian. And again A Nian was making everyone feel she was above them all. I somehow have a feeling Xiao Liu was provoked Shi Qi could disappear at any time.
Shi Qi turned to look at him with a smile “Six years.” Xiao Liu squatted next to Shi Qi and said with a smile “Even Chuan Zi and Ma Zi can tell you don’t belong at Hui Chun Clinic. Xuan clearly can see it. Since he’s already wary of me, he’s likely already sent someone to investigate your background.”
“Um.” Shi Qi’s eyes were clear with a hint of a smile, remaining calm and peaceful as if he was above the fray. Like he was one with the mountains and streams and wind and flowers.
Xiao Liu sighed. Actually Shi Qi was another type of lofty personage. Ah Nian’s type made Xiao Liu want to jerk her down and whip her. Shi Qi’s type made Xiao Liu want to rub his dirt all over Shi Qi so that he got some dirt on himself, so that he wouldn’t disappear into the wind and become like the cloud.
Xuao Liu picked up a rock and tossed it into the water and it splashed droplets on Shi Qi’s face. That made Xiao Liu happy and when Shi Qi took out a cloth to wipe Xiao Liu forbade him to. Shi Qi didn’t understand but stopped wiping and instead used it to wipe the water from Xiao Liu’s face.
The condor Furball swooped towards them close to the river’s surface and Xiang Liu stared at them with an amused expression. Xiao Liu immediately stood up and walked forward, not even turning his head around while telling Shi Qi “You go back first!” Shi Qi was worried and didn’t want to go at first, but then he remembered the imprint of a kiss on the inside of the collar and he lowered his head and silently left.
Defintely Xiao Liu seemed to have fear Shi Qi might disappear that she wanted to dirt him. But then Xiang Liu arrived and she just went straightly with him. I have taking on this scene. I think at that very moment, Xiao Liu just wanted to face her fear and release and which were all in Xiang Liu.
Chapter 4: Gathering is hard, Parting is easy
My Analysis Part 4
Xiang Liu and the Moon
Xiao Liu scooted closer to Xiang Liu “But a person’s heart is strange. Happiness or sorrow, it’s all relative. If a person had only one biscuit a day but then saw beggars frozen on the street, he would feel happy because he wasn’t as bad off. But if he saw all his friends get rich then he would feel sorry that his life was terrible. Do you really need me to get into more detail about my horrific past? I can consider embellishing so that you’ll think it’s not just horrible, it’s the worst ever!”
Xiang Liu raised his hand to smack Xiao Liu who immediately closed his eyes and curled up like a beaten animal’s automatic reaction to anticipating more pain. Xiang Liu’s hand lowered and he put it on Xiao Liu’s neck. Xiao Liu saw that he didn’t hit or bite and felt a bit bolder “You’re really different tonight. Did you grow up in the ocean?”
Xiang Liu didn’t answer and Furball descended until he was right up against the ocean surface. Xiang Liu got off the back of the condor and instead of falling in the water he was standing on the surface like it was land. He reached out his hand to Xiao Liu and he immediately grabbed it and slid off the condor. Furball was actually scared of water and immediately rose back into the air.
Xiang Liu strolled along the waves with Xiao Liu. There wasn’t a sliver of light, the ocean was pitch black, there was nothing ahead of them, there was nothing behind them. The world was so vast and Xiao Liu felt so miniscule as if a wave could swallow him at any time. He grabbed Xiang Liu’s hand tightly.
Xiang Liu suddenly stopped and Xiao Liu didn’t know why but he didn’t ask any questions. He inched closer to Xiang Liu and kept him company staring out towards the East. After some time, a moon rose from the edge of the ocean and the quiet beauty was so powerful that Xiao Liu felt the hard shell around his heart soften. In the sound of the ocean waves, Xiang Liu’s voice spoke “As long as there are such sights in this world, then life is very precious.”
Xiao Liu nattered “The most precious of sights will get old after seeing it too much. Only if someone views it with me. (In thai ver, the word is friend instead of someone. I guess its not much difference) Views are dead, only if a person can appreciate it then the view has meaning.”
It wasn’t clear whether Xiang Liu heard what Xiao Liu said, but he didn’t respond. The most beautiful view had passed and Xiang Liu summoned Furball to take them back. Xiang Liu closed his eyes and there was exhaustion in his brows. Xiao Liu asked “Why are you in a bad mood?”
Xiang Liu ignored him so Xiao Liu just spoke out loud “Since Little Zhu Rong took over running the Middle Plains, I hear the Middle Plains are starting to be well managed. The Yellow Emperor will eventually deal with General Gong Gong. The power structure in this world can’t be reversed, and definitely not by the will of one person. I suggest you take off sooner rather than later. Actually, you’re just a demon, and a loathsome nine-headed one at that. With those snobbish Gods of the Sheng Nong tribe, in their eyes you are……you are less than nothing. Why do you have to worry about the Sheng Nong rebel army. What can you get by following General Gong Gong? Do you like power? Then why don’t you betray Gong Gong and cast your lot with the Yellow Emperor……….”
Xiang Liu opened his eyes and it was blood red with a demon glare. Xiao Liu was shaken by his glance like his entire body was paralyzed and blood began to drop from his nostrils and his fingertips. “I…..wrong…..wrong…..” Xiang Liu closed his eyes and Xiao Liu’s body toppled forward onto the condor’s back like a used rag. When they were almost back at Qing Shui Town, Xiao Liu sat up and wiped the blood away before wordlessly falling off the side into the river.
This is the scene where I consider Xiao Liu and Xiang Liu had bonded. However, even if they were under the moon, it is definetly not romantic as male female attraction type. But we can definetly see the bond and he was actually in good mood until she ruined it. I have a feeling that Xiao Liu was telling him about her terrible past , not only to release her own trauma but also his. Because she talked about people happiness and sorrow depending on what they see in their surrounding. She was talking about being rich and poor, so she may just directly mean that though. I have highlighted the part. He was enjoying the ocean view when the moon rose. Was it like it is a time light shown into Xiang Liu dark(night) life? And he was enjoying the time. Xiao Liu could feel he was in a good mood too. Yet fear was still in her as when he raised his hand she curled up like beaten animal . Yet she still manage to anger him by telling him to betray Shengnong and Gong Gong. He threw her off with blood dropping from nostril and fingertips. Yep.. but the reason she told him that was because she just want him to enjoy normal life than to die in war because of this loyalty, because she herself not at all into politics and war, but lead normal. They are just different under the same moon.
Ye Shi Qi 's True Identity&His Bond With Wen Xiao Liu
Xiao Liu walked onto his room and took off his clothes, drying himself before putting on clean clothes and burrowing under the clean warm blanket. Shi Qi entered with a hot bowl of soup and Xiao Liu sat up an slowing drank it and his body warmed up. Shi Qi took a towel to dry his hair and Xiao Liu leaned his head back and closed his eyes.
Shi Qi looked and didn’t see any lip marks on Xiao Liu’s neck and his lips curved upward. Shi Qi finished drying his hair but didn’t want to stop so grabbed a brush from the table and combed through it.
Xiao Liu said softly “You shouldn’t spoil me. If I get used to it, what’ll I do when you leave.” “I won’t leave.” Xiao Liu smiled, millions made promises, it was hard to find one who kept them. If he was Shi Qi, it might’ve been easier, but he wasn’t just Shi Qi.
Again it was Shi Qi who welcomed her home warmly and looking after her. And Xiao Liu had this feeling that he might leave, just like in previous scene. She did not want to get attached to him although she already did. And the way Shi Qi combed her hair. I feel he liked touching her (intimacy). He sound delighted that there was no lip marks on her neck. It was very different in the drama. Because he waited her at the river side all along and picked her when she fell down from furball(she fell into his arms). It showed he wanted go find her too but remembering lip marks on her neck, he did not want to interfere although jealous.
More abstracts.
A richly decked out carriage rumbled past and the wind blew the curtains up to show a gorgeous lady inside. Xiao Liu gasped at the beauty and his eyes followed the carriage. The carriage stopped outside the jewelry store run by owner Yu Shin who got out and greeted the lady. Yu Shin was a well known personage in Qing Shui Town not because his jewelry store was all that profitable, but because he owned all the shops on this street. Once a year Lao Mu needed to go to the jewelry shop to pay the rent on the clinic.
Qing Shui Town may be like a pan of loose sand but it wasn’t completely a mess thanks to Yu Shin. He wasn’t a government official but worked hard to maintain rules and order here. As one would see it, Yu Shin was like half the authority in Qing Shui Town. So when he was bowing to someone else it caused the entire street to be stunned. Everyone wanted to discuss it but was too scared to discuss it. Wanted to look but didn’t dare look. In a second the entire mood changed on the street.
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The next day, the news broke that Yu Shin wanted to take back some of the shops. Lao Mu sighed and even Chuan Zi and Ma Zi were in a daze. Butcher Gao heard the scoop and came to share that Yu Shin wanted to take back Hui Chun Clinic because it was close to the river and there was another patch of fertile land. Lao Mu cursed since when he rented the place it was just an empty lot that he worked hard to make fertile. But in front of the authority of Qing Shui Town there was nothing he could do other than endure a sleepless night.
Xiao Liu liked water and didn’t want to leave here so decided to go see the authority Yu Shin. Shi Qi could see Xiao Liu cleaning up to head out so he followed behind. Xiao Liu was welcomed back to the lavishly decorated courtyard to see Yu Shin. Xiao Liu and Shi Qi bowed respectfully and asked if it was true he was taking back some shops? Yu Shin admitted it and Xiao Liu asked to keep renting if he was looking for a higher rent.
Yu Shin added “You’ve lived here for twenty years so I’ll be candid with you. I’m just a servant and my master’s family is beyond wealthy. Forget one shop, they can afford to let the entire Qing Shui Town sit useless and empty just because they feel like it.” Yu Shin finished and sent them away.
Xiao Liu lowered his head to leave. If this was a plot then he couldn’t find a way to solve it. An owner wanting to take back a shop was perfectly legal and there was nothing he could do about it.
“Stop!” A woman’s voice came from above. Xiao Liu halted and raised his head to see the beautiful lady from the carriage. Shi Qi didn’t stop and kept walking while the the girl was so anxious she jump down from the second floor and ran to embrace Shi Qi with tears streaming down her face “My lord, my lord………..”
Shi Qi was standing ramrod straight and didn’t turn around. The woman collapsed at his feet in tears “They all said my lord was dead…..but none of us believed it! Nine years! Nine years!……The Heavens heard us, to let your servant I find you.”
Hearing the woman crying, Yu Shin rushed out and when he saw the woman kneeling by Shi Qi’s feet, he immediately knelt down, too. The woman tearfully asked “My lord, why are you not talking. It’s your servant Jing Ye. Did you forget? And Lan Xiang, too. You use to tease us about our names…..Yu Shin, hurry up and send message to the Grand Madam that we found our second lord. My lord, have you forgotten the Grand Madam as well?”
Shi Qi turned around and looked at Xiao Liu, the few short steps between them became an expanse so wide it couldn’t be bridged. There was such sorrow in his eyes. Xiao Liu smiled at him and walked over to say something but his usually glib tongue actually failed him. He could only try harder to keep smiling and smiling. He gestured for him to handle his family affairs and he was off.
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That night, Xiao Liu walked along the stone path through the medicine patch to the river. He strolled along the river and someone followed behind him, speeding up and slowing down along with him. The Summer breeze brought the scent of hops and it calmed Xiao Liu down. He stopped and turned around. Shi Qi stood behind him wearing the same old sack cloth robe which had been laundered and now smelled like fragrant incense.
Xiao Liu said “I don’t like this scent on you.”
Shi Qi lowered his head and Xiao Liu smiled “I liked the smell of medicinal herbs. Next time when you come see me, I’ll give you a satchel of medicinal herbs.” Shi Qi raised his head and it was like stars had fallen into his eyes as it sparkled with hope. Xiao Liu smiled and kept on walking so Shi Qi hurried up to walk alongside.
From then on, Shi Qi would always wear the same sack cloth robe and come walk with Xiao Liu every night by the river. The two of them would walk until Xiao Liu got tired and went back to sleep, and then Shi Qi would leave. The days seem to pass not very different then before, except the topic of their conversations had changed.
Xiao Liu would ask “How many servants do you have?”
“Two.”
“How much money do you have?”
“………….”
“Years ago….was that because of an inheritance battle?”
“Yes.”
“Is Jing Ye prettier? Or Lan Xiang?”
“…………..”
“Do you remember all the herbs I taught you.”
“Yes.
“Remember them well because it looks ordinary but if you add little things to it, it can take down even a god or a demon.”
“Yes.”
“You’re not that nine-headed monster Xiang Liu, with nine-lives and can eat whatever he wants.”
“Yes.”
“Is Jing Ye prettier? Or Lan Xiang?”
“…………..”
“The serving people are usually the least trustworthy. You be careful.”
“Yes.”
“Also…..don’t resort to violence. Pretend to be stupid and endure. If it resorts to violence then you have to be thorough and end it right then and there.”
Shi Qi said nothing.
Xiao Liu sighed “If you really can’t beat them, then come back. You can keep brewing medicine for me, at least you won’t starve to death.”
Shi Qi stared at Xiao Liu and there were rolling waves in his eyes seemingly pulling Xiao Liu in.
So finally we learnt who had the power and authority in Qing Shui town. It is Yushin, who worked at jewellery shop, and his master was beyond wealthy Tu Shan family. We can see that Xiao Liu liked to live near water/river. But she finally learnt about Ye Shi Qi's true identity, Tu Shan second young master. There was sorrow. But what makes me a little startle is how she remembered his two maids' names correctly at one time hearing. (That reminds me of the when she teased him at qing shui ally..she mention as he looked like a high deity, he might have maids serve him ...) . And again here she asked him who 's prettier with maids exact names. She asked him twice. That is something. Was she really thinking of Shi Qi having affairs with them?? At near end how she said that if things are not well off he could come back to her. So there is still hope. And Shi Qi seemed to be moved by that.
Overall
There were so many important events happen. Ye Shi Qi identity is finally revealed. Moreover the attachment between Shi Qi and Xiao Liu is just strong. Intimacy was shown although not directly at times. I mean the way she teased him with background of Chaung Zi and San Tian Er were making out under shadow . Also he combed her hair. And yep their basking under the sun. In this chapter, Wen Xiao Liu bond with Ye Shi Qi and Xiang Liu is shown with the sun and the moon. Her bond with Xiang Liu started with fear, sympathy and loneliness. It was like the moon that rose in dark night time. But he was still capable to punish her physically. Shi Qi to Xiao Liu was like a sun that makes healing, giving hopes to see the path, light and enjoyment. And one thing very obvious is their attaction. But she knew that she did not want him to disappear. And then she even remembered the names of women around him. And the last sentence about Shi Qi's stare, waves in his eyes that pulling Xiao Liu inside. Does the waves refer to his passion ?
The title of chapter is Gathering is hard, Parting is easy. (The word gathering in thai ver is translated as living altogether). It actually talks about Xiao Liu emotion. She had this feeling that one all her Hui Chun family will be gone and she might be left alone. She wanted to cling onto Shi Qi, into his warmth by her own natural desire. At the same time she is scared of him leaving her . And she told him that she did not want to gamble like Tian Er. And this persimissitic feeling become true as his identity is finally revealed. So for Wen Xiao Liu gathering is hard and parting is easy.
And in this chapter particularly, we could see more of Shi Qi attraction towards her. By his wolf looks at her, his seeming jealous at seeing red marks on her neck, his liking to the touch of Xiao Liu hair and finally the waves in his eyes.
Umm as for Wen Xiao Liu. Well she want to smell medical herbs on him and want to make sachet for him which made him sparkled with hope. And I feel sensual here.
That feeling of stretching, paired with the warm sun
:to bask in the sun
in the sun like he was doing
Even though it was the same sun warming him, the same pallet he was laying on, but two people basking under the sun felt particularly nice for some reason.
..... *Just read the first part of your post for now...it's interesting that they are sooo many (5 exactly) SUN quotes - only in that parts, as at the same time, they are both ( Yeshiqi and Xiao Yao) getting closer :) ***
Chapter 4:
(SOLAR related Xiao Liu ? :D!)
In psychologie the Sun = consciousness. and I'm not even going into that for now, as we are in explorative phase :) :
(ref-https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/sun)
brightness that allows you to see
- lightLight streamed in through the window.
- brightnessThe brightness of the sun hurt his eyes.
- illuminationFor professional-quality photos, it is best to use several sources of illumination.
- sunThis plant needs to be in full sun.
- sunlightSunlight streamed in through the windows.
- daylightHow much daylight does this room get?
Sun also means the light or heat that the earth receives from this star:
Sit in the sun where it’s a lot warmer.
(ref-https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/sun))
=> (some general ref)https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_symbol :
Short : A solar symbol is a symbol representing the Sun. Common solar symbols include circles (with or without rays), crosses, and spirals. In religious iconography, personifications of the Sun or solar attributes are often indicated by means of a halo or a radiate crown.
What's the meaning of the Sun?
(ref-https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/sun)
/sʌn/ the star around which the earth moves and that provides light and heat for the earth: The sun is the center of our solar system. Sun also means the light or heat that the earth receives from this star: Sit in the sun where it's a lot warmer.
And off course: The sun is 93 million miles from the earth. :D..But anyway seem to be often around Tushan Jing , and Xiao Yao (still Xiao Liu yeah yeah ;)).
Let me add this jungian interpretation of your first extract from ch4...Why? Because we see Xiao Liu ACTING in SEDUCTIVE way to Yeshiqi - so this part the male - female type, got to get a closer attention and CG jung as you will see in his linked key concept, could help us understand some more angles and perceptions :).
***-(ref.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carl_Jung ---->
Key concepts
Within the field of analytical psychology, a brief survey of major concepts developed by Jung include (alphabetical):[95]
- Anima and animus—(archetype) the contrasexual aspect of a person's psyche. In a woman's psyche, her inner personal masculine is conceived both as a complex and an archetypal image; comparably in a man's psyche, his inner personal feminine is conceived both as a complex and an archetypal image.
- Archetype—a concept "borrowed" from anthropology to denote supposedly universal and recurring mental images or themes. Jung's descriptions of archetypes varied over time.
- Archetypal images—universal symbols that can mediate opposites in the psyche, often found in religious art, mythology, and fairy tales across cultures.
- Collective unconscious—aspects of unconsciousness experienced by all people in different cultures.
- Complex—the repressed organisation of images and experiences that governs perception and behaviour.
- Extraversion and introversion—personality traits of degrees of openness or reserve contributing to psychological type.[96]
- Individuation—the process of fulfilment of each individual "which negates neither the conscious or unconscious position but does justice to them both".[97]
- Interpersonal relationship- The way we relate to other persons, is a reflection of the way we relate to our self. This may also be extended to relations with the natural environment.
- Persona—element of the personality that arises "for reasons of adaptation or personal convenience"—the "masks" one puts on in various situations.[98]
- Psychological types—a framework for consciously orienting psychotherapists to patients, by raising to consciousness particular modes of personality, differentiation between analyst and patient.
- Shadow—(archetype) the repressed, therefore unknown, aspects of the personality including those often considered to be negative.
- Self—(archetype) the central overarching concept governing the individuation process, as symbolised by mandalas, the union of male and female, totality, and unity. Jung viewed it as the psyche's central archetype.
- Synchronicity—an acausal principle as a basis for the apparently random concurrence of phenomena.[99]
*****OK , enough for keys, let's analyse the Tong Hua ch.4 text that Winny copyed here and explore it with jungian point of view :)
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" Xiao Liu didn’t bother with Lao Mu and was instead laughing at Shi Qi and inched over “A scion of a well born family, even if unmarried there must be pretty serving maids in the house. How were the maids around you compared to this girl?”
Shi Qi said nothing and was trying to inch away from Xiao Liu but he was already against the wall. Xiao Liu restrained his laugh and continued to be his evil self. He pressed his hands against the wall around Shi Qi and trapped him, much like a playboy trying to seduce a gentle lady. “What kind of girls do you like? An innocent fresh-faced type, or a girl like this who is passionate?”
In the sound of the woman’s moans, Shi Qi’s face was starting to turn beet red and Xiao Liu was laughing inside so hard he was about to bust a gut. His evil naughty side was in control and he pressed close to Shi Qi’s face and asked “You want some, too?”
Unexpectedly, Shi Qi raised his head and despite the faint blush, his clear eyes were filled with laughter. Xiao Liu was stunned and the only thought he had in his head was “A wolf in sheep’s clothing!”
Xiao Liu was so embarrassed and it was his turn to blush red so he vented his frustration out on Chuan Zi."
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A Jungian Analysis of this text:
1. Archetypal Symbols:
Shadow Archetype: In Jungian psychology, the "shadow" represents the unconscious and often hidden aspects of an individual's personality. In this scene, the shadow is vividly portrayed through the clandestine affair of Chuan Zi and the prostitute. The darkness of the alley serves as a physical manifestation of the shadow realm, where suppressed desires and societal taboos are explored.
Anima/Animus Interaction: Xiao Liu's interaction with Shi Qi reflects the anima/animus dynamic, representing the feminine and masculine aspects within an individual. Xiao Liu, with his playful and seductive demeanor, embodies the anima, teasing and probing Shi Qi's preferences. Shi Qi, in turn, displays a balance of both masculine and feminine qualities, surprising Xiao Liu with his laughter despite the seemingly compromising situation.
2. Integration of Opposites:
Sexuality and Repression: The sexual tension in the alley symbolizes the interplay between conscious and unconscious desires. Lao Mu's fury and Xiao Liu's laughter represent the conflicting emotions tied to societal expectations and personal inclinations. Shi Qi, caught in the middle, experiences a moment of integration, where he embraces both his composed exterior and the underlying sensuality.
Persona and True Self: Xiao Liu's initial laughter and subsequent embarrassment reveal the dual nature of the persona - the social mask we wear. Shi Qi's unexpected reaction exposes a more genuine facet of his character, challenging preconceived notions. This moment hints at the complexity of human identity and the constant negotiation between the projected persona and the authentic self. Yeshiqi's unexpected response to Xiao Liu's provocations indicates a level of authenticity in his character. Instead of conforming to societal expectations or reacting defensively, Yeshiqi remains true to himself. This suggests a level of self-awareness and a willingness to defy societal norms when it comes to matters of personal identity and desire.
- The sexual tension in the alley: symbolizes the interplay between societal expectations (represented by Lao Mu's fury) and personal inclinations. Yeshiqi's ability to navigate this tension and respond with laughter suggests a moment of integration, where he acknowledges and embraces both societal norms and his own sensual nature.
@ Conclusion and summary => the relationship between Yeshiqi and Xiao Liu, as depicted in this Jungian analysis:
is characterized by a nuanced understanding of each other's inner worlds. It suggests that their connection goes beyond surface interactions, delving into the exploration and acceptance of hidden desires, societal expectations, and the complexity of personal identity.
(to be continued)
Episode 6/related ch4, drama sceneries:
Xiao Yao and Yeshiqi are heading back from a long talkative and sharing thoughts moment by the river when suddenly: Xiao Yao slips and go to grab Shiqi's walking stick (better forget for a moment those psychological references...:D).... But he gently put it a side, and hop her in his arms,
...All the way through the gardens......................................(very loooong path! :D)............to home :D.
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Last image covering the scene :
***Same frame on the left Xiao Liu, on the right Yeshiqi. (You can even start to analyse deeper all the visual elements in the backgrounds- if it amuse you...it surely amuse me...!!! :D ...
green plant for her/baskets and coton tissues for him-ref.bandages/provision/carrying/food/ for her the vase/feminity/herbs/grow/maturity...the circle around her visage that look so much as the divine circle around spiritual beings vs...him having like a form that relates to wings be it butterflies or spiritual angels...It's Beautifull how with only all those simple details, one unique frame express so much meanings. I'm BLUFFED :D <3***
=> INDOOR = Xiao Liu tries to pull herself together by slapping his own cheeks
OUTDOOR =Yeshiqi savour happily and calmly the moment.
"Shi Qi’s eyes were clear with a hint of a smile, remaining calm and peaceful as if he was above the fray. Like he was one with the mountains and streams and wind and flowers."
This sound so much as a painting of Shen ZHou!
Shi Qi’s eyes were clear with a hint of a smile, remaining calm and peaceful as if he was above the fray. Like he was one with the mountains and streams and wind and flowers.
Tong Hua description of Yeshiqi that matches with paintings from Shen Zhou (1427–1509 :).
Chapter 4: Gathering is hard, Parting is easy
My Analysis Part 4
Perception and Overall Analysis:
Power Dynamics in Qing Shui Town:
- The revelation that Yu Shin, an employee at the jewelry shop, holds significant power in Qing Shui Town due to his connection with the wealthy Tu Shan family, adds a layer of complexity to the town's social structure.
- Xiao Liu's preference for living near water is noted, and this preference becomes significant when she learns about Ye Shi Qi's true identity, bringing a sense of sorrow.
Xiao Liu's Reaction to Shi Qi's Identity:
- Xiao Liu's ability to recall the names of Shi Qi's maids showcases her attention to detail and raises questions about her thoughts on Shi Qi's relationships. The repetition of asking about the maids' beauty might suggest a mix of curiosity and perhaps a hint of insecurity or possessiveness, jealousy.
- Her suggestion to Shi Qi that he can come back to her if things don't go well reflects her deep emotional connection and hope for their continued bond.
Symbolism of Sun and Moon:
- The symbolism of the sun and moon in Xiao Liu's bonds with Shi Qi and Xiang Liu is a poignant observation. Xiang Liu, associated with the moon, starts with fear and darkness but is bettering their connection.
- Shi Qi, associated with the sun, brings healing, hope, warm and light into Xiao Liu's life. The sun and moon dynamic adds depth to their respective relationships.
Intimacy and Attraction:
- Instances of intimacy, such as Xiao Liu being teased under the shadow of Chaung Zi and San Tian Er making out, Shi Qi combing her hair, and their moments basking in the sun, reveal the evolving nature of their relationship.
- Xiao Liu's desire to smell medicinal herbs on Shi Qi and make a sachet for him adds a sensual layer, emphasizing her growing affection and care for him.
- Xiao Liu's subtle expressions of jealousy, such as her inquiries about which maid is prettier and her precise recall of their names, suggest her emotional investment in Shi Qi. This adds a nuanced layer to their relationship, showcasing a reciprocal dynamic of attraction and interest.
Title Significance:
- The title, "Gathering is hard, Parting is easy," encapsulates Xiao Liu's emotional journey. It reflects her fear of losing those around her he deeply care for (the hostages) , and the difficulty she faces in forming connections, contrasting with the easier nature of parting.
Chapter 4:
Global Synthesis and Analysis of Ch.4-Drama & Novel covering
=> Power Dynamics in Qing Shui Town:
The revelation that Yu Shin, an employee at the jewelry shop, holds significant power in Qing Shui Town due to his connection with the wealthy Tu Shan family, adds a layer of complexity to the town's social structure. Xiao Liu's preference for living near water is noted, and this preference becomes significant when she learns about Ye Shi Qi's true identity, bringing a sense of sorrow.
Xiao Liu's Reaction to Shi Qi's Identity:
Xiao Liu's ability to recall the names of Shi Qi's maids showcases her attention to detail and raises questions about her thoughts on Shi Qi's relationships. The repetition of asking about the maids' beauty might suggest a mix of curiosity and perhaps a hint of insecurity or possessiveness, jealousy. Her suggestion to Shi Qi that he can come back to her if things don't go well reflects her deep emotional connection and hope for their continued bond.
Symbolism of Sun and Moon:
The symbolism of the sun and moon in Xiao Liu's bonds with Shi Qi and Xiang Liu is a poignant observation. Xiang Liu, associated with the moon, starts with fear and darkness but is bettering their connection. Shi Qi, associated with the sun, brings healing, hope, warm and light into Xiao Liu's life. The sun and moon dynamic adds depth to their respective relationships.
Intimacy and Attraction:
Instances of intimacy, such as Xiao Liu being teased under the shadow of Chaung Zi and San Tian Er making out, Shi Qi combing her hair, and their moments basking in the sun, reveal the evolving nature of their relationship. Xiao Liu's desire to smell medicinal herbs on Shi Qi and make a sachet for him adds a sensual layer, emphasizing her growing affection and care for him. Xiao Liu's subtle expressions of jealousy, such as her inquiries about which maid is prettier and her precise recall of their names, suggest her emotional investment in Shi Qi. This showcase a reciprocal dynamic of attraction and intimate interest.
Title Significance: The title, "Gathering is hard, Parting is easy," encapsulates Xiao Liu's emotional journey. She had this feeling that once all her Hui Chun family will be gone and she might be left alone. She wanted to cling onto Shi Qi, into his warmth by her natural desire. At the same time, she is scared of him leaving her. In Wen Xiao Liu's world, gathering is hard, and parting is easy.
Relationship Dynamics - Shi Qi and Xiao Liu:
The relationship between Shi Qi and Xiao Liu is characterized by contrasting symbols—Shi Qi as the sun and Xiao Liu as the moon. Shi Qi represents warmth, healing, and light, while Xiao Liu embodies fear, darkness, and initial vulnerability. This duality adds layers to their connection, illustrating a balance between light and shadow in their evolving relationship. Xiao Liu's acknowledgment of the rarity of keeping promises adds a layer to her perception of Shi Qi. The uniqueness of their bond is emphasized, hinting at the challenges and uncertainties they might face due to Shi Qi's identity beyond being just Shi Qi. Xiao Liu's reluctance to get accustomed to affection stems from a fear of Shi Qi leaving. Shi Qi's assurance, however, adds a note of hope to their connection, showcasing their delicate dance between intimacy and the potential for separation. The nightly walks by the river become a ritual, symbolizing the constancy of Shi Qi in Xiao Liu's life. The routine reflects their deepening connection, fostering a sense of familiarity and comfort even as the narrative hints at Shi Qi's eventual departure.
Xiao Liu's Coping Mechanisms:
- "The irreverent image in the mirror could be a symbolic transformation of traumatic symbols from Xiao Liu's past. Just as he had to endure captivity and torment by the Nine-tailed fox and the snake, he is now turning a potentially menacing figure, Xiang Liu, into a source of amusement and defiance." Analysis: Xiao Liu's use of humor, as depicted in the mirror, is a coping mechanism developed during past traumas. The transformation of Xiang Liu into a comical figure showcases his ability to redefine the narrative and regain control over symbols of fear. Quote: "Xiao Liu's coping mechanisms, humor, and irreverent depictions show resilience. Triumph over past traumas demonstrated by reshaping narratives and symbols." Analysis: Xiao Liu's ability to reshape narratives and symbols indicates her triumph over past traumas. The use of humor and defiance becomes a powerful tool for her to assert agency and control over her own story.
Xiao Liu's Vulnerability and Fear:
- "Xiao Liu’s fear of Shi Qi disappearing reflects attachment and vulnerability." Analysis: The fear of abandonment demonstrates Xiao Liu's vulnerability and a deep attachment to Shi Qi. This emotional element adds complexity to their relationship and emphasizes Xiao Liu's internal struggles with the potential loss of a source of warmth and healing.
Attachment to Water:
-"Xiao Liu's attachment to living near water symbolizes a desire for stability and connection." Analysis: The symbolic significance of water reflects Xiao Liu's emotional depth and a longing for stability. Living near water becomes a representation of her resistance to change and a need for a constant in her life.
Triumph Over Trauma:
Quote: "Xiao Liu's coping mechanisms, humor, and irreverent depictions show resilience. Triumph over past traumas demonstrated by reshaping narratives and symbols." Analysis: Xiao Liu's ability to reshape narratives and symbols indicates her triumph over past traumas. The use of humor and defiance becomes a powerful tool for her to assert agency and control over her own story.
Theme: - Gathering is Hard, Parting is Easy:
-"The title, 'Gathering is hard, Parting is easy,' encapsulates Xiao Liu's emotional journey. It reflects her fear of losing those around her and the difficulty she faces in forming connections." Analysis: The theme of gathering and parting captures Xiao Liu's emotional struggles, emphasizing her fear of loss and the challenges she encounters in forming meaningful connections. This theme resonates throughout the narrative, shaping Xiao Liu's experiences.
- "Shi Qi's eyes were clear with a hint of a smile, remaining calm and peaceful as if he was above the fray. Like he was one with the mountains and streams and wind and flowers." Analysis: Shi Qi's serene demeanor, akin to nature's elements, suggests a sense of stability and reliability. His calmness becomes a source of reassurance for Xiao Liu, contributing to the strengthening bond between them.
- "Xiao Liu smiled, millions made promises, it was hard to find one who kept them. If he was Shi Qi, it might’ve been easier, but he wasn’t just Shi Qi." Analysis: Xiao Liu's acknowledgment of the rarity of keeping promises adds a layer to her perception of Shi Qi. The uniqueness of their bond is emphasized, hinting at the challenges and uncertainties they might face due to Shi Qi's identity beyond being just Shi Qi.
-Novel Quote 1:
"You shouldn’t spoil me. If I get used to it, what’ll I do when you leave.” “I won’t leave.” Xiao Liu smiled..." Analysis: Xiao Liu's reluctance to get accustomed to affection stems from a fear of Shi Qi leaving. Shi Qi's assurance, however, adds a note of hope to their connection, showcasing their delicate dance between intimacy and the potential for separation.
Novel Quote 2:
"From then on, Shi Qi would always wear the same sack cloth robe and come walk with Xiao Liu every night by the river. The two of them would walk until Xiao Liu got tired and went back to sleep, and then Shi Qi would leave." Analysis: The nightly walks by the river become a ritual, symbolizing the constancy of Shi Qi in Xiao Liu's life. The routine reflects their deepening connection, fostering a sense of familiarity and comfort even as the narrative hints at Shi Qi's eventual departure.
Conclusion:
In this chapter, the narrative skillfully intertwines power dynamics in Qing Shui Town, Xiao Liu's coping mechanisms, and the evolving relationships between Shi Qi and Xiao Liu. The symbolism of the sun and moon, coupled with Xiao Liu's attachment to water, creates a rich tapestry that adds depth to the characters and their interactions. Xiao Liu's vulnerability and fear are laid bare, especially in her fear of Shi Qi's disappearance, showcasing her emotional strongest inner desires. The exploration of coping mechanisms, humor, and the triumph over trauma adds layers to Xiao Liu's resilience, making her a compelling protagonist.
As the plot thickens and emotions intensify, the stage is set for an enthralling continuation of this spellbinding tale of Xiao Yao and Yeshiqi that we are intricatly following.
On our way to chapter5 ! :)
Navigating LINKS:
Prologue & Chapter 1: https://mydramalist.com/discussions/lost-you-forever/122337-tong-hua-s-xiaojing-drama-novel-exploration-x1f49c?page=1
Chapter 3:: https://mydramalist.com/discussions/lost-you-forever/122337-tong-hua-s-xiaojing-drama-novel-exploration-x1f49c?page=2 &https://mydramalist.com/discussions/lost-you-forever-season-2/122339-tong-hua-s-xiaojing-drama-novel-exploration-x1f49c?p=2928519&page=3
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