Who do YOU think is the murderer?

 processus:

These are so fun to read! ^^

I get more and more confused every episode. I am currently out of ideas about who could be the murderer. lol

Well, aren't we pretty sure of most of the points now ? Clearly, the local member of parliament (fat, greasy, licentious pig that he is) and the local Commander of the Police (snivelling little failure...) are running a human trafficking and possibly also a drug ring, probably aided and abetted by Rungtiva, who seems to run some kind of spa cum massage parlour (I didn't quite get the precise details on that), which may serve as something of a front for the whole operation.

Not sure about Natty, who may have died after an illegal abortion and after having been enslaved and abused by the two b*st*rds above. This first death probably led Jane, who had been personally involved in the insalubrious doings one way or another, to want to come clean and shop everyone, hence she was eliminated. Pued, who was also involved in various ways, but probably simply because he was scared and wanted to preserve his career by any means, probably played along for a while, but then he also went into hiding and, possibly under pressure from Tan, was also about to reveal the whole thing. Why the reporter was killed is obvious.

And, of course,  now, the MP and the Chief of Police both want Tan and Bun eliminated. Not sure why they haven't killed That though.... perhaps he's too pretty....

As to who actually did the killings, there are quite a few different henchmen all around who would carry out the dirty work (after all, we clearly see Por's henchmen going after Tan and Bun at the former's home), but the guilty parties and the instigators seem to be coming very much into focus (notwithstanding some last-minute surprise....). Of course, perhaps one of the main parties actually did carry out one or other of the killings. As for the needles and the injection of various dangerous subtances, we can see already that there is lot of that around already in the drugged-up orgies with the captured girls. So, it could be done by anyone, it hardly seems to need the precise skill of a medical expert.

The one thing I am not clear about is the role and involvement of Por in all of this. Commander Tung mentions him almost as if he were some kind of accomplice, but if they were the ones that ordered / carried out Pued's death, then this connection is not likely to last...... Por is also very much a b*st*rd, but he apparently is viciously angry about the death of his full brother (he just couldn't care less about his half brother...).

Isn't the situation as we seem to have it at the moment? Or are we expecting some 11th-hour revelation that will throw this all up into the air?

And, of course,  now, the MP and the Chief of Police both want Tan and Bun eliminated. Not sure why they haven't killed That though.... perhaps he's too pretty....

Episode 10 finally revealed why they didn’t kill Thad. They knew he was Tann’s protege and someone Tann considered like his own family, so they kept him alive to use as leverage to manipulate Tann to do what they want. In the novel, it was Tann’s sick mother that was being leveraged by people to manipulate him to do dirty work, but since his mother is dead in the series, it looks like they replaced her with Thad for the “role” of leverage.

The one thing I am not clear about is the role and involvement of Por in all of this. Commander Tung mentions him almost as if he were some kind of accomplice.

Indications show Por is not likely to be involved in the human trafficking ring of Tung. Yes, Por is mafia and has his own illegal dealings, but this seems to be separate operations from Tung’s circle. When Tung mentioned Por, it’s more from the angle that he knew how Por would react to Tann being a suspect in Pued’s murder - as a corrupt police chief, he knows the shady ongoings in town including Por and his gang, and he lets them be (there may even be “arrangements”).

But so far Por has shown no sign he’s aware of why Jane was dead and is definitely furious that Pued got killed. So it’s not likely he’s part of Tung’s circle - they are more of separate rings of power within Viangpha Mork.

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As for Oat, the writers have clearly hinted that there is likely an insider in the hospital workingwith the murderer, if not the murderer himself.

They made it a point for Por to say that only Por and Tann knew that Pued had a heart condition. From a writing perspective when it comes to murder mysteries, these lines would likely not have been written unless it signified something. It was a subtle clue/hint.

Of course, even if Por and Tann were the only ones “in the general public” who knew of Por’s heart condition, that would “literally” not be accurate because Pued would have at least one doctor who diagnosed his condition and hospital staff who had access to his records (perhaps even helped him with his prescriptions, which he likely needed given that scene where he asked Tann to grab his medicine for him when they were fighting).

So while we cannot say for sure Oat is involved or not, he is still a strong possible suspect in Jane’s murder or at least possibly an accomplice acting as an inside man at the hospital for the prostitution ring.

This is especially an interesting angle considering that (MASSIVE SPOILER FOR THE BOOK) Jane had two killers in the book, Rungthiva and Pued. It seems they’re going in the direction of Rungthiva still being a killer but how they changed and set up the narrative for the show makes it unlikely Pued is still a killer on th show (it could still be, but less likely than it was in the novel). So if they still go the route of two killers and decided to change it up a bit to give a twist for those who read the novel, they may have replaced Pued with someone else like Oat, who is a new character they added just for the show.

At the very least, I’m guessing Oat may be involved in the illegal abortion clinic. If you go back to Episode 1, when they were doing the autopsy on Natty, Oat seemed spaced out, and Bunn has to call his attention for “daydreaming.” This is very subtle and something one might only realize in hindsight, but it was a directorial and script choice for that to have been shown onscreen (that Oat was spacing out in the autopsy). The director, who is fairly acclaimed and skilled, has shown to be very detail-oriented and meticulous, everything so far has importance. It’s unlikely he threw that in (Oat spacing out at Natty’s autopsy) for no reason. My guess is, in hindsight, Oat spaced out because he recognized Natty as one of those who got an abortion and he was agitated that she died because of the abortion gone wrong.

But again, just a speculation for now. But with someone out there knowing Pued has a heart condition, and with the prostitution ring having at least access to an illegal abortion clinic, and with people like Pat telling Bunn that the circle of power involves a lot of people of different levels of influence, and with the congressman able to pull strings to discharge Nam from the hospital even without her attending doctor (Bunn) knowing about it  - it seems like a no-brainer that the congressman and Tung would most likely have an inside man within the hospital.

And in murder mysteries, it would be bad writing for them to suddenly have a random previously unknown doctor/nurse/hospital staff member be revealed towards the end of the series as their inside man. My guess is they created the character of Dr. Oat for the series (he’s not in the novel) and planted him into the story right from the start to fulfill this role.

 tierzab:

I watched the episode again and paid  close attention to the preview trailer. Oat made the comment, " I did not think Dr. Bun would really die".  That statement right there spoke volumes and shed a whole new light on things.  So Allan, you are on to something with this character and he is there for a definite purpose. 

Correct. Whether he’s a killer or an accomplice (my personal prediction), or even if he’s actually on the “side of good,“ I feel Oat will regardless still have a bigger role to play as we reach the end of the series beyond just a background character who provides occasional comic relief.  It would just be too unusual for them to hire and pay an actor with BL clout to portray an entirely new character they created specifically for the series, then have him be highly visible in promotions - then suddenly not use him for anything impactful or important to the plot / main story.

With next week’s teaser re: Oat, maybe he is in on it but didn’t expect Bunn to be actual collateral damage.

Adding more thoughts:

Now that I think about it, Oat being in on Jane’s murder or perhaps even the murderer himself but not expecting Bunn to die along the way (implied by the teaser for next episode) would very much align with the book wherein...

... Pued, being one of Jane’s killers, only wanted to scare off Bunn so that Bunn would change the MoD to suicide on the report but did not want to get Bunn actually killed. Pued was very distressed when he thought Bunn was dead after Por ordered Tann to kill Bunn and they staged Bunn’s death. It turned out Pued was secretly in love with Bunn and was very angry with Por for having Bunn killed.

And if my theory is correct that Oat acts as a replacement for Pued as one of the killers on the series, then it would be similar: Oat may be secretly in love with Bunn (possibly a reason for his grief as shown in next week’s trailer), and Oat - while being Jane’s murderer - was not expecting Bunn to be killed.

So more and more I am really guessing now that Oat was created as a substitute for Pued’s part of being one  of the killers in the book.

 allancarreon:

Yes. That said, I can’t recall the female doctor who treated her depression. What episode was she in? I only recall it being mentioned that she was being treated for depression.

I can't recall the episode she was in, but Bun had asked her why she was treating Jane and what was prescribed. She is also shown in another episode though briefly. And now, she's also going to be shown on the new episode with Oat crying over Bun's death. 

 anchorenomore:

Here are some things I have been pondering since re-watching a few of the last episodes.

Whoever killed Peud, is someone he knew. The safe house that Peud was hiding in, has ONE way in and out (one door). At least from the angles I saw in the episodes.  Whoever killed him was let inside by him. So it is someone that not only he knows, but trusts. It also means that someone else knew his safe house, yet his older brother did not know? so with that in mind, who  knows? 

Since some of the spoilers from the book is that Pued and Jane's sister were having an affair then it might mean that she could have been let in or she could have told oat or even the female doctor where to find him. Either way, the place where they struck the needle on Peud, means that he was giving his back to whover was with him (showing TRUST) 

I'm so curious to see who  did Peud in...LOL

Por actually knew where the safe house was. In one episode, he told Tann he knows Pued is hiding in their father’s vacation house and that Tann has been bringing him food.

Definitely it was someone he trusted. In the book (massive spoiler), he was poisoned by drinking a cup of coffee prepared by Rungthiva. So it’s most likely a similar situation here even if the murder method is different.

 anchorenomore:

@allancarreon  

with Por knowing, I wonder if he has a mole (snitch) in his own group that is working with the police chief. It wouldn't be surprising if there is a double crosser among them. 

I’m guessing yes and probably even vice-versa (he also probably has a plant in Tung’s group because that’s how these guys tend to operate).

But I’m not sure that would much come into play onscreen but still a possibility.

Innocent Dr. Oat is the total mastermind behind the entire conspiracy!
He's the Councilman's long lost, illegitimate twin brother's only surviving family member, so he wants Tan's and Pued's inheretance! 
As good a theory as any :)

Seriously though this is one of the few dramas that has a good who done it out of Thailand. It's so nice to see Max and Tul in a serious, grown-up drama that addresses so much to be a mirror to society.