EP 14 - 15 an explanation of how parallel worlds/timelines work in KTEM (Discussion)

 diegosays :

Why, when he had both pieces, did LG not time travel back to just before the rebellion and stop LR? Instead he said that he needed LR to also enter with his half which will basically be the plot of episode 16. This would suggest that even with both pieces, there are limits to where you can time travel.

The show is kind of contradictory on the uses of the flute.

From LR point of view, and just from logical thinking the Flute allows you to travel anywhere in time, past and future. 

But according to yoyo boy, your only able to travel back to save yourself. Whether saving yourself means saving your life, or saving from failure or other ways of saving yourself.

Since the flute is cut in half and was stained with the blood of LG and LR. Each side of the flute chose an owner so to speak, so LR can't use LG's flute and vice versa. But LG will only be able to time travel to the point of the coup if both LG and LR's flute is in the time space zone at the same time. 

That is why he is telling Shinjae to escort LR, and once LR is in the time space zone. But plot twist, it will be TE who will be escorting LR, and both LR and TE will probably go to the night of the coup also.

We also see in Ep 15 that when LG was holding the flute, an obelisk with red colration appears. LR mentions that this is the obelisk he has been searching for, meaning this is LR true plan, to go back to another timeline, way before the coup, most likely when the grandfather of LG was choosing his heir perhaps.

LG enters here briefly,, and wonders where this obelisk would lead him. We noticed right away the time space zone here is very different from the shared time zone of LR and LG. It's importance hasn't been shown yet.

 diegosays :

That makes a lot more sense. You're right that this show can be contradictory. I feel as if it would have been better to have learnt this a few episodes earlier. But let's see what the final episode reveals

I could write a book report on the number of times the show contradicts it's own rules and defies logic. 

But the funniest one is when in EP 1, Maximus is referred as a "He"

But by the time he's in Korea, Maxumus is suddendly a girl horse now.

 diegosays :

I thought that was a typo by Netflix's translators so I brushed it off

it made sense in the context of the sentence though, but you could be right.

I dont get one part, anyone can explain it:

in episode 14, 1994 LR kill 2020 LR. So 2020 LR is dead right? So how is it possible that we can see 2020LR again in episode 15? 

 Can anyone explain it, it's so confusing. 

 Kimsamsoom:

This means that 1994 LR, never reaches the point where 2020 LR existed. 

ehh, you can't be serious?? are you saying Lee Gon inadvertently reversed the event where 1994 LR killed 2020 LR and that 2020 LR in ep. 15 wasn't a throwback but he's alive indeed?! WTF.

p/s can i also suggest that you correct your title? "EP 14 - 15 an explantion of how parallel worlds/timelines work in KTEM (Discussion) ". there is a missing 'a' in the world explanation :)

I understand, it's clear.

Let's  continue with this theory, LR hasn't reached the point he will die, so technically, he has not yet returned in 1994.
So tehnically, LG from the timeline Beta ( the one that TE hug during their first meeting)  didn't go back to 1994 too right?  So where is he now?
Or like as you said, the timeline alpha and beta merge and, once LG reaches april 1994, there will be one and only LG?
I don't know if you understant what I want to say.

Another outstanding issue:
When Lee Gon leaves the palace after saving Lee Gon as a child, he goes into ROC.
But there, time is stopped! On top of that, for a very long time (several days or more).
- Why such a long time?
My hypothesis is that the length of the timestop has not been reset, because it doesn't depend on a moment in time, it's an absolute datum.
But in this case, it will have a plot-hole afterwards. Because Lee Lim and Lee Gon will regularly change worlds, as in episodes 1 to 14. But then the timestop would be much longer. And this has not been mentioned.
- Why is there a timestop?
And yes, so far, I don't remember seeing a character enter a world, and provoke timestop himself and live it. (although that is logical). It's as if only the characters who are already there were undergoing timestop. As if the newcomer is kept in the in-between world until the timestop ends. You would have to review the episodes to see if you can see one character coming out of a portal while another is undergoing timestop.
- When Lee Gon returns almost immediately to ROK, it doesn't cause timestop! So that contradicts my previous assumption.

What the hell is all this crap?!!

If LG succeeds in killing LR, SJ will die as a child, because the mom was already forcing him to jump off the bridge.

Yes I agree the timestops do not reset, but as i've said in past explanations, time stops should already be lasting more than one year based on TKEM's own math.

Like in my analogy about cold air being in a room. When LG or LR leaves the time space world escorting someone, the person being escorted won't be frozen, but everyone in the world LR or LG is entering will have time freeze, as the time stop powers from time space world seeps out.

Yeah the way they use the timestops is a rule, but the show doesn't always show it when LG or LR are jumping gates left and right. It's already been established the show is very inconsistent, especially with it's own rules.

LR has really been relegated to be a dumb criminal. In the show, it's very clear that he realizes that his future self is correct, ONLY after 25 years has passed. 

The writing of KES here is that of an omnipotent hero. We just have to assume that LG is the smartest person in the whole world, and he figure things out and accurately calculates everything perfectly.

Yes, I agree the part in EP 1. Where did this future LG come from, if memories are being merged like we see with TE, how come LG doesn't know anything. I think this can be xplained if we assume there is another timeline not being shown, let's call i timeline omega, that all happened off screen.