Ancient Love Poetry Spoilers Discussion

I hope we don't get the second stab scene, one was enough, I don't want to cry anymore!

 Nana:

I hope we don't get the second stab scene, one was enough, I don't want to cry anymore!

its good. he deserve that after what he did to houchan.

 Ameer Hamza:

its good. he deserve that after what he did to houchan.

No, he doesn't. What he did to Hou Chi hurts him too. ONE stab is already enough. Just to say, that Hou Chi/Shang Gu isn't the only one hurting, but Bai Jue is too, if not more. 

 Ameer Hamza:

whatever he was doing that was for shanggu not for houchan. he even did not know Gu jun have pure soul of shanggu. lets suppose gu jun does not have pure soul of shanggu then houchan would have died along her son. he take that stab from houchan after knowing she is shanggu so he is culprit of houchan.

First, correction for you here, it's Hou Chi, not Houchan. 

Second, just like Bo Xuan is Bai Jue, Hou Chi is Shang Gu. Just with a different identity. 

Third, your reply here shows me you don't even understand the story, if you paid attention to the conversation between Gu Jun and Bai Jue, when Gu Jun went to see him, you would know that it was never in Bai Jue's intention to hurt Hou Chi. That's why what is happening now, and what happened between Qing Mu and Hou Chi, their love, and them getting together is making it inevitable for Bai Jue to be cold to Hou Chi, because he didn't want her to know about his plans and what he's planning to do, what he wanted was for her to stay away from the danger, and him sacrificing silently... The whole reason why he kept it platonic between Hou Chi and Bo Xuan back then. So she won't get involve with this relationship to get hurt now. What happened between Qing Mu and Hou Chi, was destiny playing with him/them. It's not Bai Jue's fault nor was it his intention, because he didn't want to hurt Hou Chi / Shang Gu... 

Yes, Hou Chi have her own character/personality, different from Shang Gu, but that doesn't change the fact that she is still Shang Gu, they are the same person. She is just different because she doesn't have the memories of her past life (as Shang Gu). This is the same case for Qing Mu being different to Bai Jue, because he doesn't have Bai Jue's memories. So under a different identity , they were able to be together and love each other, without the responsibilities that they respectively have as Qing Mu (for Bai Jue) and Hou Chi (for Shang Gu). 

Also, if you paid attention, in episode 41, when Hou Chi was awakening her powers, before she stabbed Bai Jue.... Tian Qi called her Shang Gu, but Bai Jue still calls and refer her as Hou Chi in that moment, to me, this is something subtle to show that he still cares for Hou Chi as Hou Chi despite she's under a different identity at the time (even when we know that Hou Chi is still Shang Gu), and just like how Gu Jun comes to care for Hou Chi as Hou Chi, Bai Jue (through his time as Bo Xuan and then Qing Mu) is the same too...Bai Jue knows Hou Chi is Shang Gu, because he was the one who named her "Hou Chi" back then when he saved her, and when the soul became the baby(reborn).. And when he sealed her immortal powers, because he wanted her to live a normal life, away from her destiny as Chief God (since he didn't want her to bear that responsibility in sacrificing herself for the three realms again...). That's all he wanted for her, for her to live a happy, peaceful life, to live her life as "Hou Chi", he wanted nothing then for her to be happy, that's why he was so kind to her back then when he was using the identity "Bo Xuan" to take care of her... He kept things platonic, and not enter this relationship, so she won't get hurt or make things complicated, everything that happened i.e. Hou Chi meeting QingMu and them falling in love, was not his intention, because he knows now Hou Chi is hurt because of it, although Qing Mu is Bai Jue, but after awakening as Bai Jue, he can't go back into being the carefree Qing Mu because he is determined to go along with that plan in replacing Shang Gu for her tribulations to protect her, and save the three realms... 

Yes, from Hou Chi's pov, she was hurt, and she have the right to stab Bai Jue for that, but from a viewers perspectives, anyone can clearly see that he was trying to save her, if he just stood there and did nothing then yeah sure, but he was like Tian Qi trying to save her and help her regain control, his expression on his face already betrayed him, anyone can tell that he was worried about her. Even that bitch Wu Huan knows. I am just saying this that,  honestly, in that moment, instead of stabbing Bai Jue, I rather she stabbed Wu Huan instead.... Because, she was the one who attacked her, which lead to Gu Jun sacrificing his life to save Hou Chi.

Anyways I am not saying I can't relate to her anger at Bai Jue because yes, he have hurted her, so in her eyes she hated him which is what Bai Jue wants, but honestly, if she paid attention to Bai Jue's actions and expressions she would be able to know that he cares for her. For me, while I understand why she's angry and yes she have the right to be but I still prefer she pull that sword on that bitch Wu Huan instead of Bai Jue.

Well, she stabbed him in the end, and that scar last a life time for him, never heal, so that serves as a reminder for him however, instead of ONLY looking at this from one side (Hou Chi / Shang Gu's) pov, try to see this from Bai Jue's pov too, to be fair. If anything hurting Hou Chi like this now, and then later Shang Gu, actually hurts him more if you try to understand him....  I felt Bai Jue is in more pain on his end, he have to bear the pain of hurting her, which also hurts himself and the pain of being misunderstood, not that he care what other thinks, but to be misunderstood by the one woman he loves and is doing this for (although he wanted her to misunderstand so she can stay away from the danger and be protected), but I still feel so sad for Bai Jue now having to endure all this, not to mention Bai Jue being told by Shang Gu as soon as she wakes up that she's glad that 60,000 years ago, she didn't get together with him... these words hurts.... And you can see how much it has hurted him....So Shang Gu/Hou Chi isn't the only one hurting here... Bai Jue is too, except for him, he is determined with this path he's walking on, even if it meant that Hou Chi/Shang Gu will misunderstood and hate him forever, to him, her hatred for him, can be her strength to live on at the end, when he's gone... 

Finally, you either side with the Female side or both sides (but judging from your reply, it feels like you're only see this from the female side), well, what is a story like this calibre without the angst side of things? It's just to build on our emotions and make it more touching right, we can all agree on that much.... Hou Chi is not going to die, even if Gu Jun doesn't have her pure soul, I am sure, 100% without a doubt Bai Jue will sacrifice himself, or prevent Hou Chi from dying because, I still say he cares for Hou Chi, as Hou Chi, the same way Gu Jun came to care for Hou Chi that way, despite he knows that Hou Chi is Shang Gu... 

 Ameer Hamza:

"KiKo Tsukino" brother take it easy maybe its just writer fault.

I am not blaming the writers here. I am just trying to put reasons into perspectives from both sides, not just one side here. At the end of the day, I don't hate the writer, because I do love Ancient Love Poetry on my end. What I don't like is people only sees it from the female side of things, and not understand the male side and his difficulties and the pain he have to go through to do this to the person he loves whole-heartedly. 

Well, I will just take it that we have different perspectives. For me, I understand Bai Jue, and I don't hate him like some people do. 

As long as the writer gives a happy/fulfilling ending for Bai Jue and Shang Gu in the end, then the writer have my thanks (lol), so peace. 

@Ameer Hamza, 

Since I can't quote, I will just @ your reply to me. 

To me, the "marriage" between Bai Jue and Jing Zhao, was for 'show only'. He made it clear to Jing Zhao that he will never love her that way. That much is clear. 

And what's most important is that, their "marriage" ceremony (just like in the novel) was interrupted so they never got married. Bai Jue and Jing Zhao did NOT do the three bow, so their marriage was not official. They didn't even consummate their marriage, so in the end, they are NOT married (lol). 

If a happy ending to you is that, then good for you. For me, if a pairing I love have been through so much obstacles and tribulations to show their love for each other (their love-journey), then a happy ending for me is for them to be together, happily in the end, to make up for their pain and suffering, because they both deserve to be happy. 

 KiKo Tsukino:

@Ameer Hamza, 

Since I can't quote, I will just @ your reply to me. 

To me, the "marriage" between Bai Jue and Jing Zhao, was for 'show only'. He made it clear to Jing Zhao that he will never love her that way. That much is clear. 

And what's most important is that, their "marriage" ceremony (just like in the novel) was interrupted so they never got married. Bai Jue and Jing Zhao did NOT do the three bow, so their marriage was not official. They didn't even consummate their marriage, so in the end, they are NOT married (lol). 

If a happy ending to you is that, then good for you. For me, if a pairing I love have been through so much obstacles and tribulations to show their love for each other (their love-journey), then a happy ending for me is for them to be together, happily in the end, to make up for their pain and suffering, because they both deserve to be happy. 

Yes, they have been through so many ups and downs already. They deserve their happily-ever-after.