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Replying to JinXia Dec 1, 2024
I have not come far in the drama yet, but historically Shu Brocade is invaluable, more than gold at some point.
Period dramas regularly follow unoriginal patterns and storylines, they are mostly watched because of the idol-actors involved, certainly not for the greatness of their script... I find period dramas interesting only if they contain elements of real history and/or are sufficiently original.
The production and trade of silk was treated in several dramas I can remember, Jiu Liu Overlord (trade), The Sword and the Brocade (that one was more about classical embroidery), The Destined (dyeing and trade), Marvelous Women (a hidden gem!), My Heroic Husband, Nothing Gold Can Stay... covering different periods of Chinese history and different regions. The payment in silk bolts (as a tribute, a tax or a reward for exceptional merit) is also often mentioned in other period dramas. There's a nice resumΓ© of the history of silk (and other fabrics using silk, such as brocade, damask etc.) on China National Silk Museum site https://www.chinasilkmuseum.com/gwgk/info_4.aspx?itemid=26485#:~:text=Silk%20was%20one%20form%20of,bolts%20of%20silk%20as%20tax.
I've liked a lot the opening of this drama: FL as a young girl telling "her story" (story of her dad) while introducing the audience to the real history of Shu brocade. But it is still too early to judge, lets wait to see at least 1/3 of the drama, if they will be able keep this pace and authenticity vibe
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Replying to JinXia Dec 1, 2024
I have not come far in the drama yet, but historically Shu Brocade is invaluable, more than gold at some point.
yes, brocade is a fabric woven with silk threads.
I don't know about the museum promotion, but (till this point) I appreciate how the drama treats this matter, recently we've seen other dramas trying to appear (read: "promoting a drama as") "historically accurate" and failing grossly in that effort (The Story of Pearl Girl) and we will soon see one treating the history of Chinese ink. As a history freak, I certainly love these ideas but get very dissapointed when they turn out to be inaccurate.
In BO, I've notice only one minor inaccuracy (locust tree, mentioned as an ingredient for dyeing in ep 6, is native to North America, so it's impossible its flowers could have be used in Tang China), but this tree was probably just mistranslated...
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Replying to JinXia Dec 1, 2024
I have not come far in the drama yet, but historically Shu Brocade is invaluable, more than gold at some point.
yes, Shu Brocade from Sichuan (historical Yu province, Yuzhou, in the drama) was famous and highly valuable throughout the history.
The "silk" here is referred to coloured silk threads used to embroider-woven onto a satin cloth using a loom.
Silk already was precious, a commodity used for exchange as silver or gold, a luxury good traded across Euroasian continent (Silk Roads take name after it for a good reason), emperors from all dynasties strove to keep knowledge of sericulture secret to maintain the Chinese monopoly on the continet. Brocade is on a higher level of luxury, silk threads served not only to represent certain motives and scenes (of course the variety and stability of colours were crucial for this art) but also to thicken the textile.
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Replying to IanuaCoeli Dec 1, 2024
😜....aaa they didn't use chemicals those days.... the colours were obtained from plants or insects only, that'd…
exactly. In ep 6, FL instructs her friend to add "locust tree flower" and "saffron flower". Saffron is a great spice for fish, I wouldn't mind to eat already saffroned fish from that water. Locust tree flowers are also edible (and good for digestion, fish would probably be thankful for it), what we know as "acacia honey" is actually a honey from flowers of pseudoacacia or honey robinia (another names for locust trees), the only problem is that all its varieties originate from North America, so they were completely unknown in Tang China
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Replying to Architectofnonsence Nov 28, 2024
Title Pretty Boy
The weird thing is the female co-stars are less pretty than him LOL
well, at least the drama doesn't betray the title "pretty girl"
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On Pretty Boy Nov 28, 2024
Title Pretty Boy
I think we can all agree the prettiest girl in this drama is the ML. If not for the Adam's apple, visible only when the camera takes his side profile, I'd mistake him for a girl myself.
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Replying to Fanchengchengkai Nov 15, 2024
Fun fact: both of sons were the emperor in the long ballad drama. prince Tan is the father of li chang ge (dilireba),…
I will, tomorrow.
I didn't change anything only because someone can read this nonsensical dispute: I did rate in a wrong way, I didn't know rating episodes on "ongoing" section would result in this mess, that's a fact, I admit it.
But if someone else reads this, it's better it stays like this for a day, than I'll change what I've done wrong
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Replying to Fanchengchengkai Nov 15, 2024
Fun fact: both of sons were the emperor in the long ballad drama. prince Tan is the father of li chang ge (dilireba),…
I don't feel embarassed at all. I've simply made my remark to @Fanchengchengkai's comment which implied the setting of this drama is during Taizong's era. It is not, the setting is supposed to be (roughly) in Tang (costumes, interiors etc. follow Tang-style) but if we refer to the persons and events of the drama - it is completely fictious.
After that, you've started to harass me.
I am actually glad you've noticed my rating so that another person in this discussion could explain me I was rating episodes in the wrong section, I'm not unwilling to learn from the others, sorry I've tought you'd appreciate learning from others as well.
What you'll do with the block button is up to you.
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Replying to Fanchengchengkai Nov 15, 2024
Fun fact: both of sons were the emperor in the long ballad drama. prince Tan is the father of li chang ge (dilireba),…
First I'll TEACH you something - you should use the verb "to teach" if you intend to make someone learn something. A person learns after being taught. No need to teach me how to use a block button, thank you, just get off.
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Replying to Fanchengchengkai Nov 15, 2024
Fun fact: both of sons were the emperor in the long ballad drama. prince Tan is the father of li chang ge (dilireba),…
you continue to be rude. First you've called me "a hater", which is an offence, and now you affirm I play a victim. Get off me, ma'am
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Replying to Fanchengchengkai Nov 15, 2024
Fun fact: both of sons were the emperor in the long ballad drama. prince Tan is the father of li chang ge (dilireba),…
I've written a review on the Rise of Ning, giving 7 as overall mark (only rewatch value for me is 1, check it, it's there and check the date when I've written it), why would I rate the drama differently in star section?
Now, thank you for the indication, I truly didn't know that when I've assigned "1" (for the ep in which Duanwu so incomprehensibly misunderstood that arrow) it will remain there forever. Very likely the same thing happened with the Rise of Ning, I've assigned "1" for certain ep I didn't like and later, when I've completed the drama, forgot to assign "7" in star section. I am not familiar with the tools on this platform, if I want to rate certain ep next time, I'll go to "episode guide".
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Replying to Fanchengchengkai Nov 14, 2024
Fun fact: both of sons were the emperor in the long ballad drama. prince Tan is the father of li chang ge (dilireba),…
So, now I've seen, I did rate the last ep 1, but I haven't rate the drama, btw. I've rated 9 some of the early eps.
Good, a leasson to me: never ever rate eps in the future, but this wasn't the topic of this discussion. I'm not a hater, I've simply objected a comment which didn't state the fact. If you have smth to say about it, say it.
If not, don't direct your rude witch hunt towards me, because I'll report you
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Replying to Fanchengchengkai Nov 14, 2024
Fun fact: both of sons were the emperor in the long ballad drama. prince Tan is the father of li chang ge (dilireba),…
This is not true, either.
I've watched many more dramas than I've actually "report" here.
My 1 means 1, as well as 9
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Replying to Fanchengchengkai Nov 14, 2024
Fun fact: both of sons were the emperor in the long ballad drama. prince Tan is the father of li chang ge (dilireba),…
so please be nice, where do you read my ratings, can you link it?
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Replying to Fanchengchengkai Nov 14, 2024
Fun fact: both of sons were the emperor in the long ballad drama. prince Tan is the father of li chang ge (dilireba),…
No, they haven't changed their names. The plot is fictious, fullstop
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Replying to Fanchengchengkai Nov 14, 2024
Fun fact: both of sons were the emperor in the long ballad drama. prince Tan is the father of li chang ge (dilireba),…
I'm a fair watcher. I never rate any drama till I finish to watch all eps.
In this drama, there were eps I've rated 9, but when I get bored, it's normal to rate the ep 1.
Btw, how do you know my rating?
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Replying to Fanchengchengkai Nov 14, 2024
Fun fact: both of sons were the emperor in the long ballad drama. prince Tan is the father of li chang ge (dilireba),…
I haven't rated the overall drama. I've rated some episodes 9 and some 1
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Replying to Fanchengchengkai Nov 14, 2024
Fun fact: both of sons were the emperor in the long ballad drama. prince Tan is the father of li chang ge (dilireba),…
It isn't true. Taizong (Li Shimin) in Long Ballad (and in history) never had sons named Tan or Ying, or having the titles "prince of Tan" and "prince of Ying".
Before talking nonsense, check the facts.
The conflict between these two princes is totally fictious, as is the 99% of this drama and, although the production hired some experts to make the props more believable, it still remains... just another costume idol drama
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Replying to Dedra70 Nov 12, 2024
So, we had our pageant today! These women are ruthless. Ripping up dresses, cutting up shoes...man, just to be…
Bridges of Madison County moment... πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚
But the storyline has been redundant for several episodes now, I'm terribly bored
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