The complaint isn't that she hasn't fallen by episode 13—it's that her emotional withdrawal is so absolute that…
You will notice in my first comment that I acknowledged that it can be frustrating when we don't feel rewarded of scenes we are waiting for. My rent is not about people not feeling frustrated, but people calling her name ( I even saw someone saying she was a cold hearted bitch) , or saying she is not shit without her family backing her up. We all have the right to vent our frustration. But this does not mean we need to go beyond measure and even shame the FL because she is not falling yet. Her character is consistent, and upfront about her motives. If she wants to change her ways, it will be only because she wants to , not because someone is forcing affections on her.
The complaint isn't that she hasn't fallen by episode 13—it's that her emotional withdrawal is so absolute that…
Does she not goes to her length to help him too? Yes she is not a warrior who can jump in fight to save him, but it was told she actively work to help him with his disease. She was the one who helped curing his eyes, while not knowing it was for helping her he got in this state. She constantly shows concerns for him, and even consider him as a good friend, to the point of hallucinating him when she misses him . Are those not enough to show that she is slowly leaving her original state and is just not aware or refuse to acknowledge those feelings she have? She is getting there. Slowly, bur surely. And about the man s confession, again it would be not realistic if she start to open and believe him. She has reminding him more than necessary that they relationship is transactional. So whatever he does, however convincing he is, that is none of her concerns. She is not searching for arguments to trust his love. She is just not interested in it, and told him from the start. The only reason she is with him is because of the advantages she see for herself, and she told him this already. She pledged to be a good wife to him and a good crown princess, but she will not give her heart away. That is her choice.
Can we normalize, or accept FLs who does fall in love because the script is romance coded, but when she wants too? I noticed that in series where the FL keep on rejecting ML s feelings because her own reasons, people get mad at her to the point of even calling her names and degrade her character. Can we not? Yes we are there for romance and to have butterflies flutter our hearts in the leads romantic scenes, and each time one of the lead is not ready to take this step, it is a missed moment for us. But can we at least trust the script because it is exactly the way they choose to carry their story? Up to FL in this drama. She clearly stated that she is not seeking for love or romance. Do we really need a backstory to really understand why after the little hint they gave us so far? How her family was described? How she retract when showed sympathy? That whole dynamic she has with her brother, and how emotional she got when she learned how her father loved her daughter ? Can we not see how she is herself slowly falling for ML, but at this point, does not want her feeling to develop in anything? She already lived a lifetime, so if she choose to keep this behavior, she is not wrong and from the start , she is open to everyone who is courting her. Now the ML, knowing from the start that she is not interested in romance, still is trying in his way to win her. He even at some point hide some of the things he did for her because he said if she does not have feelings for him, its not his deeds that will develop them. So why are we now saying that she should reciprocate after all the things he has done? He choose this path himself, and even gave her the free will to stand up for herself if in the future he grows resentful. Why are we more mad at her than he is? Yes she id arrogant and cold, but is nt it a story about her demise in love? Why are we in such a hurry to see her fall after only 13 ish episodes? And honestly, she is right in her arguments. The ML is a prince, heir to the throne at the top of it. Because he is ML and we viewers know he must uphold the moral and rightful ness persona of the ML til the end, AKA never turn into a bad person and love FL forever; but she does not know that. Yes flings exists, but how long they last is uncertain. He is bound to fight for power, take concubines specially if he end up on the throne, use the power of her family anytime he fits so. She is well aware she is a woman in historical Chinese, and we know that wether its the little folk or the noble ladies, their life was hard. Why should she pin all her hope on a man just because he loves her now?
So far, I like this. The first few episodes' editing was weird to say the least. It was like watching a compilation…
From the very first episode, each of the man who are interested called her cold. We can't expect her to turn into a cinnamon roll overnight lool. So yes, I am enjoying her as she is. And I love that empathic side of her who maker her care of those who are dear to her, or who cannot defend themselves. I think she is realistically portrayed, as someone who put her ideals before love, even when struck by it
Some thoughts:`1. Well played ML with the little brother. Well played.2. Is Prince Xin gonna throw his hat in…
When 2 episodes passed and sha was vibing with Prince Lei, I just knew it was the sign he will be out soon looool. I do think the competition will be between prince Xinnand crown prince at the end. I don't know about the marriage, but I have the feeling that if she will discover ML s real intents before the wedding, she will certainly not marry him. The show does feel rush, mainly because they jump straight to important scenes and actions. Maybe the montage was longer, and at some point they had to reduce some episodes? Maybe the real story will begin after, and they are rushing those parts just to bring it to this point? Anyway, I am enjoying the drama so far
I just kind of find it fishy because, given Ye Li's past schemes and her track record of the way she goes after…
I don't think the pool incident is that accidental. When the servent came to get her , YeLi s handmaid told her if she still needed to go by the pond. Then when she confronted the servent about knowing its her sister who wanted to see her, she told him to make her come by the pond.
Am I the only one feeling Jiu's character is not well written and looks like a second character and just a loyal…
I am more disappointed on him than the other characters, because it would have been an interesting Dynamic to have a ML being more a personal body guard to FL, after this wave of powerful aura farming ambitious generals who never sweat on battles and have the drama politic in their pocket. I like how laid-back they made him, more driven by his own desires and ambitions ( however little they are) than the greater good. The potential was there, but they gave him little to do, which makes his character completely dispensable plot wise. He could have been a faithful folower without being the love interest and the plot could have remained the same. I would love to see this dynamic between two leads in another serie, but with more stake and wedges
I don't understand why deng yi is fighting...he is already in highest rank ...chu zhao also promised to give him…
He is alne with no backup. And the noble families only respect him because of his status. Even Xie Yanfang throw a nasty comment about his lack of family now and then..he must be at his highest to be secured
I am seeing a possibility of CP between Den Yi and Chu Tang, and I am honestly not against it. Between the back and forth betrayals he is making, the shenanigans at court, the subtile battle with Xie Yanfang, and the strategy building with a child ghost, the man seriously need to get laid.
Not that this has anything to do with my business, but intimacy between them is going to be complicated, since one teleport at high heart race and things start to fly at any direction when the other is not keeping his control in check.
Just binged from episode 20 to 28, and I’m still not sure what it is about this show that keeps pulling me in.…
For me, it's because most of the time, you feel kike you are really immersed in their life. Last time I felt like this was in a dream of splendor. Its like the story really happened, and you are just there standing in a street looking at all of those drama happening lol.
I could not agree more! I think that we are so used to ML who are aura farming that anything different can feel…
What is interesting in his revenge plot, is that he is mainly going for it because the Tian family did not give a chance to his brother and aunt. The wealth they have acquired is still legal, since Luo father did leave his estates to them. And so far, there is no clue told that the Luo family s fall was part of another bigger scheme. So far, the fall is still on his father s shoulder, and even if he gets his revenge or not , ML will still be a fugitive with a death sentence hanging around his neck. I would love to see how they will sort this out, since is position is very sensible. But like you said, let s wait and see what it will be of it all.
It's nice to see the ML fail and actually not just magically have endless resources. Alas, I would have liked…
I could not agree more! I think that we are so used to ML who are aura farming that anything different can feel boring for a lot of people. I enjoy this ML so much! He is flawed, human, and is getting blows! We even saw him in a depressive state! And kudos to the actors for making the character feel real. I love how different he was before his family tragedy, how changed he is now, and how you can see the cracks of his past self when he is around of people he is open with. This said, the story could definitely give him much more to do lol.
Does it take this long to get rid of the 4th aunt? They wasted an entire episode on that ugh. I am glad the grandma…
Honestly, they did not suffer unnecessary. Even if the father did go alone and messd up with the tribute, they will still have the same problem with their reputation getting shredded, and paying their error in money for 10 years. maybe the dad could have died too, because he would be the one to get tortured. And let s not forget that it was granpa li who offered to get his branch severed from the family. That said, the aunt is surely dumping all her guilt on FL s branch, because she knows deep inside her husband would have not died if she did not press him to go. And the fact that FL s father s death that she provoked was not enough for her to feel even with FL s branch feels like she is indeed torturing herself through them.
Sometimes when i watch these historical dramas, there’s a lot of romance, not against that, the romnace helps…
I agree with you, but for ML s part, I would like to had that there was not much he can do. Its not like his Luo family was falsy accused, so he is still a deserter with a death sentence on his neck. He cannot expose himself too much. And the fact that he is backed up by the general make his position even more delicate, because him doing too much and getting too much unwanted attention to him will nit be a good thing. Lets not forget he took the opportunity of assembling money for his troupe to come to town an do his revenge. By the time he get back, the Tian family became so influencing that dealing directly with them is impossible. His plan about putting out the ugly ties between the tians and the ancient magistrate was simple, but effective. And if it was not good fortune, the Tian family would have been indeed crushed this time. After thia opportunity, there was honestly not much to to , since they got an even higher back up, one who even costed him his gambles on the Tribute ink case. So there is honestly nothing else for him to do than hanging out and get his redemption by gathering the rest of the money for his troupe. He lost his momentum with the Tian family, and can do nothing than wait for another one. And in my opinion, I think its not lazy writing. Yes, they could do more with his character, but i am okay with what they gave us so far.
The way those people made me sympathize with the villain aunt is outstanding. And seriously, I would have preferred to get those informations earlier, at least she would have appeared less greedy and unreasonable. But i think they did this do you can understand FL s decision in her final dealing with her. But i certainly won't regret her. Bye bye
i stopped at ep 14 because the comments here aren't good, saying it's repetitive. but i picked it up again because…
The pace we watch a story does influence your émotions. The anticipation, expectations, and the search for excitement you found in previous episodes. And honestly, if you have 1-2 episodes, its comprehensive to want to have the most of it.
Her character is consistent, and upfront about her motives. If she wants to change her ways, it will be only because she wants to , not because someone is forcing affections on her.
And about the man s confession, again it would be not realistic if she start to open and believe him. She has reminding him more than necessary that they relationship is transactional. So whatever he does, however convincing he is, that is none of her concerns. She is not searching for arguments to trust his love. She is just not interested in it, and told him from the start. The only reason she is with him is because of the advantages she see for herself, and she told him this already. She pledged to be a good wife to him and a good crown princess, but she will not give her heart away. That is her choice.
I noticed that in series where the FL keep on rejecting ML s feelings because her own reasons, people get mad at her to the point of even calling her names and degrade her character. Can we not? Yes we are there for romance and to have butterflies flutter our hearts in the leads romantic scenes, and each time one of the lead is not ready to take this step, it is a missed moment for us. But can we at least trust the script because it is exactly the way they choose to carry their story?
Up to FL in this drama. She clearly stated that she is not seeking for love or romance. Do we really need a backstory to really understand why after the little hint they gave us so far? How her family was described? How she retract when showed sympathy? That whole dynamic she has with her brother, and how emotional she got when she learned how her father loved her daughter ? Can we not see how she is herself slowly falling for ML, but at this point, does not want her feeling to develop in anything? She already lived a lifetime, so if she choose to keep this behavior, she is not wrong and from the start , she is open to everyone who is courting her.
Now the ML, knowing from the start that she is not interested in romance, still is trying in his way to win her. He even at some point hide some of the things he did for her because he said if she does not have feelings for him, its not his deeds that will develop them. So why are we now saying that she should reciprocate after all the things he has done? He choose this path himself, and even gave her the free will to stand up for herself if in the future he grows resentful. Why are we more mad at her than he is?
Yes she id arrogant and cold, but is nt it a story about her demise in love? Why are we in such a hurry to see her fall after only 13 ish episodes? And honestly, she is right in her arguments. The ML is a prince, heir to the throne at the top of it. Because he is ML and we viewers know he must uphold the moral and rightful ness persona of the ML til the end, AKA never turn into a bad person and love FL forever; but she does not know that. Yes flings exists, but how long they last is uncertain. He is bound to fight for power, take concubines specially if he end up on the throne, use the power of her family anytime he fits so. She is well aware she is a woman in historical Chinese, and we know that wether its the little folk or the noble ladies, their life was hard. Why should she pin all her hope on a man just because he loves her now?
I do think the competition will be between prince Xinnand crown prince at the end.
I don't know about the marriage, but I have the feeling that if she will discover ML s real intents before the wedding, she will certainly not marry him.
The show does feel rush, mainly because they jump straight to important scenes and actions. Maybe the montage was longer, and at some point they had to reduce some episodes? Maybe the real story will begin after, and they are rushing those parts just to bring it to this point?
Anyway, I am enjoying the drama so far
I would love to see this dynamic between two leads in another serie, but with more stake and wedges
Until we meet again.
The wealth they have acquired is still legal, since Luo father did leave his estates to them. And so far, there is no clue told that the Luo family s fall was part of another bigger scheme. So far, the fall is still on his father s shoulder, and even if he gets his revenge or not , ML will still be a fugitive with a death sentence hanging around his neck.
I would love to see how they will sort this out, since is position is very sensible. But like you said, let s wait and see what it will be of it all.
This said, the story could definitely give him much more to do lol.
That said, the aunt is surely dumping all her guilt on FL s branch, because she knows deep inside her husband would have not died if she did not press him to go. And the fact that FL s father s death that she provoked was not enough for her to feel even with FL s branch feels like she is indeed torturing herself through them.
His plan about putting out the ugly ties between the tians and the ancient magistrate was simple, but effective. And if it was not good fortune, the Tian family would have been indeed crushed this time. After thia opportunity, there was honestly not much to to , since they got an even higher back up, one who even costed him his gambles on the Tribute ink case.
So there is honestly nothing else for him to do than hanging out and get his redemption by gathering the rest of the money for his troupe. He lost his momentum with the Tian family, and can do nothing than wait for another one.
And in my opinion, I think its not lazy writing. Yes, they could do more with his character, but i am okay with what they gave us so far.
But i certainly won't regret her. Bye bye