Yooo wtf? I just started and I hate his granddad. Grandparents are usually sweet, why's this fucker acting like the devil incarnate to his own grandsonš I can't even stomach it. Like dude, itās not his fault he doesn't have a fatheršš And he works hard wtf
Let me guess, there's no season 2 and now I have to walk around with a big massive cliffhanger hanging over my headš I have sooooooo many questions. I love this show though!
On that note, we know as the audience that Tinn would die without Phob because he said as much himself, but would…
Exactly š¤·āāļø And Iāve seen that lot of fans will sooner call you an airhead who doesnāt understand politics or a fool whoās only obsessed with romance and canāt see the greater picture or emphasise that itās mostly based off true history just to shut you up (I saw comments like this on TikTok and Twitter when people talked about it)
But romance IS the core story, the politics is the subplot, we can talk about all parts of this show. As a lover, Phob isnāt the right choice but Tinn loves him to death so heād still choose him at the end. Phob is a good person to the nation, sure. But he might always put Tinn second. Iām completely certain that if Tinn were in Phobās shoes heād have found a way to overturn the govt without stealing from or using Phob. I bet on that!
Just because I point out the flaws in Phob as a lover or emphasise on the romance part doesnāt mean I donāt care about or understand politics, lmao. Just because itās about history doesnāt mean the choices canāt be questioned. Hell, during classes, during projects, we question history of our countries too, we debate it. So itās very lame that when you try to speak about Phobās nasty betrayal, they jump in with āItās based of historyā card. Okay, and???
I understand that yes Phob betrayed Tin and his family even though he was treated as on in the family. But that…
To add to my comment. Tinn came around, Tinn understood. Tinn kept saying āIām rooting for you,ā āI understand you're only doing what you believe in,ā and all that. Tinn understood that what has happened, has happened. Itās you fans that keep acting like he's the one at fault here because of his privilege and former wealth, as though we should ignore the betrayal or act like it didn't exist. My comment was directed at fansš¤·āāļøbecause most of yall suddenly donāt have empathy when it comes to Tinn but only the poor masses. So what if he was born privileged? He was hurt, heās human too.
I understand that yes Phob betrayed Tin and his family even though he was treated as on in the family. But that…
If you read my comment again, you'd definitely see where I said two truths can coexist. Stand with Phob, that's up to you, but fans should stop gaslighting us. He betrayed his lover, period. You didn't see me deny that he did what he did for the greater good. It's right there in my comment. But doing good doesn't erase what he did.
I'll say this again. I'll stand ten toes behind this: Just because Phob had the interest of the people at heart doesn't erase the fact that he betrayed Tinn, that he hurt Tinn and it might have even hurt less if Phob found a different way to overturn the monarchy without actively using Tinn.
Most of you all only see Tinnās āprivilegeā but privilege or not, he was a good student, a good person who worked just as hard and never half-assed his job. And I hate how y'all are so insensitive. āLet him taste poverty tooā āGood. He only lost his privilege, he won't die.ā But his privilege helped Phob be who he is today, his privilege helped lots of servant. Y'all only wanna hate on wealth and privilege so bad that you lack empath that you want us to feel for the poor masses, is empathy selective now? Smh
Phob wants to help the peopleāa very good cause fr! But he shouldn't expect Tinn to simply forgive. Hell, you fans shouldn't expect Tinn to simply let go.
Two truths can co-exist.
Helping the people isn't wrong. Betraying his partner was unfair.
Well phob nowhere thinks that military govt is better. He literally wants a democratic regime that serves in the…
Doesn't promote military govtā¦ right. Wonder which govt sold him the dream of āfreedomā and which people he kept defending, āweāre not rebels,ā āwe just want whatās best.ā If he didn't advocate and blindly support, he'd be guarded against the āhigher-upsā he wouldn't be so surprised towards the end of the episode when they started making shady moves. Truth is, he wanted better for the people and he believed the military was better, he had faith in what his boss was striving for, which in itself is promotion. Iām not saying he knew a dictatorship was coming and vouched for it, no. I'm saying he fought hard with them and legitimised them.
Btw, his stand doesn't seem wrong to me. Trying to help the masses can never be wrong. But good intentions can still birth disastersāhistroy is literally full of that. And imo the approach is wrongā¦ he's naive because he doesn't know they just went from frying pan straight into the fire (except the show tweaks how a military rule literally looks like)
This isn't a fictional story where the writer can choose who's right or wrong. It's based on actual historical…
Did you understand my comment? I even put a disclaimer and yetā¦
Of course I know all that. And the fact that itās coined from history doesn't mean it can't be debated. The point of internal and external conflict of a plot is to evoke emotions in the viewers and inevitably lead to conflicting opinions. I don't have to go along with everything that happens in the show just cause itās true to history. Wtf lol
Also, I never said the show portrayed the military as the ābetterā option. Fuckās sake, the show literally portrayed how they started stripping power AND I STATED THAT!?!
Please letās try to comprehend peopleās opinions before jumping to conclusions. The fact that I spoke about the characters and their actions and you twisted it to something else is baffling. Or did you think I was attacking the show? š This is literally one of my favourite 2026 BL shows, jsyk!
And just to correct you on somethingā¦ there are already FICTIONAL ELEMENTS in the show. Except Thailand has strict laws, the writer can absolutely choose to tweak history or not BUT that isn't the point of my comment. That isn't my business whether or not history was tweaked for the show. I am commenting as a viewer who has an opinion on the character and course of events on the show. Thank you!
Also, Prince Vasin is just a father who loves his sonāeven though he's way too rigid and thinks love means controlling your childās love life. But hey, he wasn't even wrong atpš Phop betrayed Tinn. As a queer person myself, I will never support homophobia. But the bitter truth is that being queer in 1932 was no easy feat. Heck, you get arrested in my country for being gay and itās 2026. So grateful Tinn has his grandmother š«¶š»š«¶š»
I also wonder if at some point he'd shown Chat a fraction of the love he has for Tinn. I know he loves Chat, heās just always mad at him and Chat is a hopeless case. One minute I feel sorry for him and the next, I wanna smack that mf in the face.
Before I dive right into what I want to say, Iād like to say I understand that the power struggle between the royal families, the military, and the masses is a topic that should be discussed with nuance and points can't exactly be black or white as every party has a valid reason for their course of action.
But imo and from my emotional standpoint, I can't help but be furious at Phop and his journalist friend. Lol, do they honestly think a military govt is better and cares for the masses????
I'm not even saying the monarchy is better, no. The masses suffered in their regime too. But you know the funny thing about military rule??? EVERYONE SUFFERS! Now Phop and the journalist can see how the military strips power from EVERYONE, even down to newspapers. Something even the Royal families didn't do even if they had their own faults! One thing about the Military? They don't give a fuck! And if this show is going to stay true to what a Military regime looks like, even the masses will suffer TEN TIMES MORE. Phob has been played lmao! It's not even funny cause Tinn is bearing the brunt of it all. Trusting the higher-ups in the military is like keeping livestock in a lionās den and expecting the lion to let it live! š¤”š¤”š¤”
Are there really men like the crown prince irl???? Cause damnā¦ he's literally the sweetest! Fierce and bold when needed and adorably sweet to his woman š„¹ I love how he loves her. And of course, the crown princess complements him so wellšš Her loyalty to him is quite touching! I love this showā¦
I love her friendship with Bu Shulin also š„¹
I can go on about things I love about this show but that will mean dropping spoilers lol
Lmao I knew her old habit (tapping her index finger) will give her away sooner than later š I love that tiny detail though!
Found my favourite side character though! The marquis daughter who is pretending to be a guy! I already love her relationship with FL!š ML is a hopeless romantic whether he admits it or not š Iām already enjoying this so much!
I mean she's mentally unstableā¦ itās not out of character.
First, an unreliable narrator can be written in various ways, especially in this chaotic manner. Also, I remember her working with a plan? Like I remember seeing that lol. Her plan is bound to be thrown off a little because both princes have the same enemy as her. Her plans are bound to be countered, sometimes. And she doesn't do the plans because sheās mentally unstable, I didn't see that in the show, thatās not what they were trying to portray. She has a mental illness AND has a revenge plan to carry out.
His mum is just as annoying too š
But romance IS the core story, the politics is the subplot, we can talk about all parts of this show. As a lover, Phob isnāt the right choice but Tinn loves him to death so heād still choose him at the end. Phob is a good person to the nation, sure. But he might always put Tinn second. Iām completely certain that if Tinn were in Phobās shoes heād have found a way to overturn the govt without stealing from or using Phob. I bet on that!
Just because I point out the flaws in Phob as a lover or emphasise on the romance part doesnāt mean I donāt care about or understand politics, lmao. Just because itās about history doesnāt mean the choices canāt be questioned. Hell, during classes, during projects, we question history of our countries too, we debate it. So itās very lame that when you try to speak about Phobās nasty betrayal, they jump in with āItās based of historyā card. Okay, and???
Most of you all only see Tinnās āprivilegeā but privilege or not, he was a good student, a good person who worked just as hard and never half-assed his job. And I hate how y'all are so insensitive. āLet him taste poverty tooā āGood. He only lost his privilege, he won't die.ā But his privilege helped Phob be who he is today, his privilege helped lots of servant. Y'all only wanna hate on wealth and privilege so bad that you lack empath that you want us to feel for the poor masses, is empathy selective now? Smh
Phob wants to help the peopleāa very good cause fr! But he shouldn't expect Tinn to simply forgive. Hell, you fans shouldn't expect Tinn to simply let go.
Two truths can co-exist.
Helping the people isn't wrong.
Betraying his partner was unfair.
Btw, his stand doesn't seem wrong to me. Trying to help the masses can never be wrong. But good intentions can still birth disastersāhistroy is literally full of that. And imo the approach is wrongā¦ he's naive because he doesn't know they just went from frying pan straight into the fire (except the show tweaks how a military rule literally looks like)
Of course I know all that. And the fact that itās coined from history doesn't mean it can't be debated. The point of internal and external conflict of a plot is to evoke emotions in the viewers and inevitably lead to conflicting opinions. I don't have to go along with everything that happens in the show just cause itās true to history. Wtf lol
Also, I never said the show portrayed the military as the ābetterā option. Fuckās sake, the show literally portrayed how they started stripping power AND I STATED THAT!?!
Please letās try to comprehend peopleās opinions before jumping to conclusions. The fact that I spoke about the characters and their actions and you twisted it to something else is baffling. Or did you think I was attacking the show? š This is literally one of my favourite 2026 BL shows, jsyk!
And just to correct you on somethingā¦ there are already FICTIONAL ELEMENTS in the show. Except Thailand has strict laws, the writer can absolutely choose to tweak history or not BUT that isn't the point of my comment. That isn't my business whether or not history was tweaked for the show. I am commenting as a viewer who has an opinion on the character and course of events on the show. Thank you!
I also wonder if at some point he'd shown Chat a fraction of the love he has for Tinn. I know he loves Chat, heās just always mad at him and Chat is a hopeless case. One minute I feel sorry for him and the next, I wanna smack that mf in the face.
But imo and from my emotional standpoint, I can't help but be furious at Phop and his journalist friend. Lol, do they honestly think a military govt is better and cares for the masses????
I'm not even saying the monarchy is better, no. The masses suffered in their regime too. But you know the funny thing about military rule??? EVERYONE SUFFERS! Now Phop and the journalist can see how the military strips power from EVERYONE, even down to newspapers. Something even the Royal families didn't do even if they had their own faults! One thing about the Military? They don't give a fuck! And if this show is going to stay true to what a Military regime looks like, even the masses will suffer TEN TIMES MORE. Phob has been played lmao! It's not even funny cause Tinn is bearing the brunt of it all. Trusting the higher-ups in the military is like keeping livestock in a lionās den and expecting the lion to let it live! š¤”š¤”š¤”
I love her friendship with Bu Shulin also š„¹
I can go on about things I love about this show but that will mean dropping spoilers lol
9/10 for meš«
Found my favourite side character though! The marquis daughter who is pretending to be a guy! I already love her relationship with FL!š ML is a hopeless romantic whether he admits it or not š Iām already enjoying this so much!
Also, I lām not even sure I could survive HALF of what she went through š