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Replying to aow Jan 27, 2021
Title The Rebel Princess Spoiler
If you don't like how things are now, I think you're probably not going to enjoy the rest of the show either;…
I don't like the way they killed her off simply because that sword appeared out of nowhere and literally among the 100 people around her no one stopped her :)
The editing is getting worse. One minute the PM is inside the Crown prince's residence,, the next he's outside. Similarly, one minute Xiao Qi is forced to retreat from the Crown prince's residence, the next he surrounds the Prime Minister and the Crown prince. Sigh.
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Replying to Mileruichi Jan 27, 2021
So how accurate it's this adaptation compared to the novel? I really want to know.
major events are still there but the order might be jumbled up or events are combined. Characterization changed quite drastically for some characters. I'd just treat it as its own thing, separate from the novel
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Replying to pewpewmew Jan 23, 2021
Title The Rebel Princess Spoiler
I think it was episode 28 or 29, when it was raining and Xiao Qi was waiting for A'wu to come out from the palace.…
It's not at all explained, pretty sure they will hold back this info for suspense.
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Replying to NNN Jan 23, 2021
Great explanation! I don't think people who point out the Mary-Sueness of the characters necessarily hate them…
Yeah totally agree!
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Replying to 7436814 Jan 23, 2021
I see what you're saying, I seen lots of her ranting because I love to rant myself....... but I must say.....…
Also the info about the caliber of the crew was informative, and her view on ZZY being an arrow-type of actress resonated with me, having seen her other works. I think it's fair if you disagree with her (I do, many times) but calling it pointless seems like a really strong blanket statement?
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Replying to 7436814 Jan 23, 2021
I see what you're saying, I seen lots of her ranting because I love to rant myself....... but I must say.....…
I thought she listed out the mary sue quality quite clearly though? And I don't think what she said about English reviewer (I don't remember that part but I'll take your word for it) is that deep, let's not assume bad intents if it wasn't explicitly stated.
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Replying to 7436814 Jan 23, 2021
Oh yeah LOL she was harsh as hell. I didn't agree ZZY only matches playing the strong wuxia girls. She played…
This! Our enjoyment is greatly affected by our expectations. Historical "serious" dramas have a different level of expectations from idol dramas. High value production and talented crew also set up different expectations. She did give the drama one gold mind so I don't know why people reacted so negatively to her very smart and we'll articulated (and subjective) review :/ I too am disappointed by the drama for certain reasons but I am enjoying and watching it - those are not mutually exclusive (and Avenuex said she would continue as well!)
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Replying to Chibi Jan 23, 2021
Are the leads here Mary Sues?> Mary Sue is a stock-character, often female, who is defined as somebody being unrealistically…
Great explanation! I don't think people who point out the Mary-Sueness of the characters necessarily hate them (I don't!) It just seems like these immensely talented cast could do a whole lot more - more complexity. So rather than hate, it's a feeling of "if only". And modern fiction sensibilities have turned to more morally gray and complex characters, even in period drama (Yingluo in Yanxi, Ming Lan - she's not morally gray but she's definitely complex). I think as viewers we are entitled to hoping for more, and some viewers like myself like to consider what they watch a bit more critically. All in all, I think they're still enjoyable characters, with a lost opportunity to be great characters.
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Replying to tsutsuloo Jan 19, 2021
Title The Rebel Princess Spoiler
You've touched on one of my mild critiques of the show so far: the ML is nearly flawless. He's so clever, noble…
This! This is what I meant by being eager to see them (our leads) fail a little bit. She totally got plot armour in that arc, and many others. Sure, they lost a lot of people during the war but at no point did we feel that she was in real danger.
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Replying to tsutsuloo Jan 19, 2021
You've touched on one of my mild critiques of the show so far: the ML is nearly flawless. He's so clever, noble…
I think she proved herself enough as a strategist in the Huizhou 2nd arc (ep 15-17) that she could just stay behind and help with strategizing - that would be super fun to see!
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Replying to tsutsuloo Jan 19, 2021
You've touched on one of my mild critiques of the show so far: the ML is nearly flawless. He's so clever, noble…
Yup exactly! That's what I meant by circumstances. A flaw in characters or a quirk or a trait that's neither good or bad when standalone but can be bad certain situations- those are the things that can create drama, and it's not always the character's fault that they have these flaws. We as people are very much born out of our circumstances as much as we were born from our parents.
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Replying to tsutsuloo Jan 19, 2021
You've touched on one of my mild critiques of the show so far: the ML is nearly flawless. He's so clever, noble…
Loool hero syndrome! Love it!
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Replying to tsutsuloo Jan 19, 2021
You've touched on one of my mild critiques of the show so far: the ML is nearly flawless. He's so clever, noble…
True! I would love to see AW having to face difficult decisions from now on living with a hero like that, and how this trait - in and of itself not a flaw but could be a flaw when it comes to relationships- affects their marriage!
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Replying to tsutsuloo Jan 19, 2021
You've touched on one of my mild critiques of the show so far: the ML is nearly flawless. He's so clever, noble…
I love quirks, but I'd argue that GTY's core character flaw (that makes him very interesting) is he has trust issues - which is why he always wanted Ming Lan to show more affection. It's a lot clearer in the novel but essentially in the end, n the novel, he apologized to her, he knew she had trouble expressing her love because she too had trust issues (due to her dad), but he kept pressuring her to express and affirm her love for him. So his "wanting her to be jealous" while cute on surface, has deep-rooted cause in his personality formed by circumstances, and that's what makes him super interesting.
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Replying to rloeun1 Jan 19, 2021
Thank you for these translation!!!! At the end of episode 19, I heard his soldiers mention “Wang Fei” after…
haha I think there's total value in watching raws! You can pay more attention to the actors without having to read subs lol
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Replying to NNN Jan 19, 2021
*Ep 14 cont*: She's packing up, he said where you going, she wanted to go with him to the south (war stuff), he…
I'm off by one episode in the previous post too haha - edited! hope that helps :)
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Replying to NNN Jan 19, 2021
*Ep 14 cont*: She's packing up, he said where you going, she wanted to go with him to the south (war stuff), he…
oh yeah you're right I'll edit! thank you!
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Replying to KJCTdramafan Jan 19, 2021
What I love is she met him as a hero. He has not been anything other than a great man. He has not forced himself…
speaking of accidental one night stands, there's one too many in this drama lol I'm not bothered by it, it's just funny.
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Replying to NNN Jan 19, 2021
*Ep 13*: XQ calmly pacing (if that's a thing ?) outside of AW's room. Maid said he has been waiting outside 4…
np! I was doing this for a friend and thought might as well post here. And it gave me the perfect excuse to rewatch these scenes hahahaha
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Replying to rloeun1 Jan 19, 2021
Title The Rebel Princess Spoiler
Thank you for these translation!!!! At the end of episode 19, I heard his soldiers mention “Wang Fei” after…
haha sure! So the army is running dangerously low on food, they can only last a few more days. This is because other nobles that have lands/castles in provinces that they need to pass through to get to the South (to battle the King's brother who's trying to overthrow the throne) are not letting them through and not providing food. His subordinates were debating - some of them thought that these nobles hated XQ since he became the Duke/Prime Minister's son-in-law (that means XQ has both army - the physical power - and status - the soft power; plus in cahoots with the PM family who's currently seen to be controlling the King, which is considered unsavory), so the female subordinate said it was AW's fault, but her brother said it is not her fault, and she is XQ's wife, our Wang Fei (Prince Wife), has great contributions to our victories, so he warned her not to say silly things.
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