Gosh! My favorite screenwriters. Empress Ki ones. Incarnation of money, Giant, History of the salaryman. AND.... with Jong Suk?!! wow! With the director of "While You Were Sleeping"?!! I can't see a way how this drama won't be great. There will be a lot of good comedy I'm sure. Just the title give an idea of that.
ML: It was me. I never imagined back then that I'd do such a thing.ML: can not move beyond my origin pointNow…
Thanks, good resume. I don't like the thing about "replace themselve", not accurate in this kind of SF. I feel it's a short-cut to not complicate too much and focus more on the other points. So I can understand why the writer makes that. Now, we can just accept it's the rules of her universe and stick with that. "can not move beyond my origin point". It was something I guessed before but without any proof. Or maybe there was an hidden clue in the drama before that made me think that, without remember what.
The problem is I can't see a woman fall in love with Manok. So maybe. But now I think more about that... Manok is a criminal but he don't look like a raper. Or I missed something before. I don't remember the list of his previous crimes.
I think it's a bait to catch the ghost because they put a tracking device in his clothes. I don't think they are…
lol, I saw the tracker too, but forgot too at the end of episode. I was thinking about a lot of other things at this point. I was asking myself: why the ghost don't help him in the building after the prison break. Then remember they said before: the ghost probably do nothing, because now the ghost know they set-up a trap for her, in the previous timeline. Yeah, we have to think about a lot of things during the episodes, and during this time, we miss other things.
See the cliffhanger. Manok escape but miss the FL car just for two seconds. Then the ghost is on a moto and sees…
Yeah, and anyway, it's more the kind of plot we could see in a kmovie, something like old-boy. Not a plot of kdrama. Too harsh. And I was wrong about the DNA thing too. As SB is fully related to Manok. It's more like he could be her brother.
See the cliffhanger. Manok escape but miss the FL car just for two seconds. Then the ghost is on a moto and sees…
Oh s..t, you are right, I forgot something : the ghost said the time she comes from. Was something like 2090. So it needs one more generation. Grandparents. The attitude of SB during the episode and the cliffhanger gave me a wrong idea.
From my understanding. Saebyeok and Manok don't have to go together to create Ghost blood line. Even though Saebyeok…
It's probably that, so it avoids the writer to set-up a rape scene. (see my comment later). But in another way... it's weaker and far less provocating.
Episode 9 is good. Of course, as I expected, it don't answer to some holes in the time travel process, but go…
See the cliffhanger. Manok escape but miss the FL car just for two seconds. Then the ghost is on a moto and sees that. Logic is next episode: Ghost come back in time and help Manok so he escape right in time to go in FL car. Then, it's a bit like a date... It depends if the writer have the balls to do that. But with what we get from the story before, Manok and FL have to have sex and have a girl... the ghost. Or at least, have another child and this child will give birth of ghost. Basicaly, the ghost organise a rape in this case. But because the DNA test isn't sure 100%, maybe there is a plot-twist (that's help the writer to do something less immoral), and the ML is involved in the birth instead of Manok. I don't know yet, we'll see.
lmao saebyeok manok and ghost are related. Ep9 ended with more qstns how gonna they tie up all in last ep?
For many reasons we got before, it was obvious than ghost and janitor son was related. It's even a thing we guess since the start, even without clues. What is nice here, it's with who else he's related. Answer in episode 9.
My mind is strange. Every time I watch an episode of this, I don’t really have trouble following or understanding…
Some points are still confusing, or just it's easy to miss a line or forget a line. I'm a bit in the same case than you. Then someone talks about the DNA test. And when watching I think it was obvious, but then the comment say it's a probability (and quite low), so I know I missed something in the line. The line wasn't catchy enough to say it loud.
Episode 9 is good. Of course, as I expected, it don't answer to some holes in the time travel process, but go all in... about the family and character stuff. It start with a very long dialog scene. Objectively, not a good one. Not enough visuals and flashbacks, and should have been spread before, with some voice over or anything. Still, it's the best thing could do the writer at this point. We can have a good resume and understand everything at this point. So later... the mind-blowing scenes or twists have a strong basis and are entertaining. I have an idea of what the cliffhanger could lead, but can't tell it here, need a spoiler tag.
Yes it's a mess because the screenwriter made many mistakes I won't recap once more, but one of the bigger one…
You really don't understand anything... I explain clearly that it is not a time paradox. It's just logic. But the screenwriter doesn't care about logic. Do I really have to explain again? - Lee Gon goes back in time and saves the child Lee Gon. - Lee Gon uses the strange dimension to go to the future by successive jumps. - During this time Lee Gon as a child grows up and becomes an adult little by little. As far as I know, the royalty is still working properly. And even the bodyguard confuses Lee Gon traveling in time, with the other Lee Gon, during a scene. - Lee Gon arrives in the present... Lee Gon as a child is now an adult too. - So there are logically two Lee Gon at this moment. By what sleight of hand is this not the case? The child Lee Gon has his own life, his own history. He is an independent being now. And suddenly, HOP, he disappears? No paradox here, just a fact that the scriptwriter voluntarily chooses to forget. She chooses not to talk about it because it makes no sense, it's taking the audience for fools. Except that any intelligent and logical spectator would not let something so crude pass. The only thing that comes to mind is just... Another plot hole in this endless series of nonsense. The only way to make such nonsense stick is... difficult... A divine intervention? Some sort of esoteric scene in which we see the two Lee-Gons merging into one? I mean AT LEAST to validate some concept, even if it's wobbly.
And I don't explain again why the scene of the first discovery of the strange world don't stand. Damn-it, I explained all, with any of the confusions that such a thing trigger in the audience brain.
I can't see a way how this drama won't be great.
There will be a lot of good comedy I'm sure. Just the title give an idea of that.
I don't like the thing about "replace themselve", not accurate in this kind of SF. I feel it's a short-cut to not complicate too much and focus more on the other points. So I can understand why the writer makes that. Now, we can just accept it's the rules of her universe and stick with that.
"can not move beyond my origin point". It was something I guessed before but without any proof. Or maybe there was an hidden clue in the drama before that made me think that, without remember what.
I was asking myself: why the ghost don't help him in the building after the prison break. Then remember they said before: the ghost probably do nothing, because now the ghost know they set-up a trap for her, in the previous timeline. Yeah, we have to think about a lot of things during the episodes, and during this time, we miss other things.
It start with a very long dialog scene. Objectively, not a good one. Not enough visuals and flashbacks, and should have been spread before, with some voice over or anything. Still, it's the best thing could do the writer at this point. We can have a good resume and understand everything at this point. So later... the mind-blowing scenes or twists have a strong basis and are entertaining. I have an idea of what the cliffhanger could lead, but can't tell it here, need a spoiler tag.
- Lee Gon goes back in time and saves the child Lee Gon.
- Lee Gon uses the strange dimension to go to the future by successive jumps.
- During this time Lee Gon as a child grows up and becomes an adult little by little. As far as I know, the royalty is still working properly. And even the bodyguard confuses Lee Gon traveling in time, with the other Lee Gon, during a scene.
- Lee Gon arrives in the present... Lee Gon as a child is now an adult too.
- So there are logically two Lee Gon at this moment.
By what sleight of hand is this not the case?
The child Lee Gon has his own life, his own history. He is an independent being now.
And suddenly, HOP, he disappears?
No paradox here, just a fact that the scriptwriter voluntarily chooses to forget.
She chooses not to talk about it because it makes no sense, it's taking the audience for fools. Except that any intelligent and logical spectator would not let something so crude pass.
The only thing that comes to mind is just... Another plot hole in this endless series of nonsense.
The only way to make such nonsense stick is... difficult... A divine intervention?
Some sort of esoteric scene in which we see the two Lee-Gons merging into one?
I mean AT LEAST to validate some concept, even if it's wobbly.
And I don't explain again why the scene of the first discovery of the strange world don't stand. Damn-it, I explained all, with any of the confusions that such a thing trigger in the audience brain.