Imagine if you watch a film and all the action scenes you see in a film has closeup shot of an actor whereas stuntman/stand-in…
Yea. Tong is really the kind of lazy actor who probably only show up for his closeup shots and make Joe do all the hard work 😂 reminds me of some hollywood actors really
Imagine if you watch a film and all the action scenes you see in a film has closeup shot of an actor whereas stuntman/stand-in…
I think that is kind of the beauty in this tragedy is Ming's stupidity and his stubborness to realize who is the real person in his heart, his idealized fantasy of Tong or the real kind Joe who treats him well
I feel so sad and not fair to Joe really but I have a question why Ming cannot recognized Joe from his back???I…
Imagine if you watch a film and all the action scenes you see in a film has closeup shot of an actor whereas stuntman/stand-in actors are often not first bill, second bill, not even to the level of supporting characters, they are hidden, their faces are not supposed to be shown. How would a young high school Ming even know the existence of a stunt actor named Joe 😅 I think it's easier to understand it if we think of it like having a crush on an action movie star, you'd like the actor because of all the beautiful action sequences he stars in but does anyone really care if that actor is the person who do the action scenes or did someone else do it for them
in the novel they have a 9-10 year age gap, ming is supposedly 20 and joe is around 29/30. i'd say that the series…
hehe glad to be of help! i think the series is already trying their best to make ming more palatable and digestable to a wider audience while at the same time retain the most classic traits of a bad boi male lead in the novel. i hope you keep watching because in the second half of the series, ming will have to do a lot of trying to win back joe's love
in the novel they have a 9-10 year age gap, ming is supposedly 20 and joe is around 29/30. i'd say that the series…
sure thing! it'd have to be a whole essay but in to summarize it in briefest terms novel ming: VERY BAD temper, VERY arrogant, very cold, has god-like beauty and is wayyyyyy more beautiful than joe who is average looking in the novel, does not give any regards to anyone else in the world other than his precious brother in law tong
series ming: still hot temper, more spoiled brat than cold, series ming doesn't emphasize his attractivenesss and beauty, is shown to be more complex in terms of relationship with his family, has a loving bond with his sister (different from novel where his sister is kind of a bitch and they dont care about each other at all), is generally more considerate to joe after they have spent 6 months living together
-> i think series ming is more humanized and he feels more realistic than novel ming, novel ming is like... the kind of over the top bad temper typical arrogant ceo male lead who verbally use female lead like crazy yet fl still like them that you often see in soap operas if you know what i mean
novel joe and series joe are basically the same except novel joe is more emphasized to be more mature, coax ming A LOT more whenever novel ming gets illogically jealous about sol and the age gap is more visible bc of ming's childlishness temper in contrast with joe's maturity in the novel. i do think series joe falls in love a little bit quicker than novel joe, but personality-wise they're the same. novel joe is shown to be more experienced tho (he gets invited to a threesome and turned it down before ming calls joe up for their first dinner together) even tho the series make joe seem a bit naive and golden retriever innocent.
someone wrote on my TL, ming and Joe has huge age gap but I'm not aware of it since the series doesn't really…
in the novel they have a 9-10 year age gap, ming is supposedly 20 and joe is around 29/30. i'd say that the series probably doesn't emphasize it perhaps because it wouldn't be very believable to say so considering how the actors look? for me, i headcanon that the age gap for mingjoe is like 4-5 years considering how they look in the series but to each their own.
but yea i do think the series is intentionally not emphasizing on the age gap because the characterization of series and novel are very different so it may not make sense to keep the same age gap if the characterization is already different from the novel
Actually in the novel, i think ming does beg for forgiveness and cry a few times in the second half of the novel…
and it's not that he barely changed in the novel. he still gets jealous and possessive easily but only for joe once he realizes that joe is the person he loves. the only thing that is mildly manipulative in the second half is him trying to make joe 2.0 his fwb bc he misses joe 1.0 (they're the same person of course but ming doesn't know that)
Sorry, one more thing. Did Ming look sadder here than in the novel? Because from what I've heard, Ming barely…
Actually in the novel, i think ming does beg for forgiveness and cry a few times in the second half of the novel but i think the series will emphasized it much more because its a live action adaptation
i was only here for boss/saya story. god boss is so charming and i forgive all his noble idiocy moves because he was OH SO CHARMING... saya gurlie blind as hell. i love my coward x coward dynamic.
i was only here for boss/saya story. god boss is so charming and i forgive all his noble idiocy moves because he was OH SO CHARMING... saya gurlie blind as hell. i love my coward x coward dynamic.
Correction : Yada is not a newbie but has previous works. Wonderful they've casted mostly experienced actresses…
It feels like the goal of the Dhevaprom series is to have more experienced lakorn actresses paired up with the CH3 rookie actors who are to become the core/most pushed/main CH3 actors in the coming years. I think with the exception of Peak and Gulf who both had one previous CH3 lakorn as main actor, for the other three Jutathep Jr boys (Mike, Kao, Tate) Dhevaprom is their first leading role at CH3 I believe.
The first two was ok,but I don't think i can continue watching it not because the drama is lacking(as only one…
I think what separates Joe from all other 188 main characters (a series of novels by the same author in which features a scum male lead who hurts the main character and has to chase them in the 2nd half of the novel (often badly)) is his inability to hold a grudge against the people who hurt him in his past life and his determination to start anew in his second life as Joe 2.0, it just so happens that his streak of miseries keep hitting him.
I fully support you dropping the series if you think it's not for you though because as novel readers I think we both agree that Ming is pretty much irredeemable but a friend who also read the novel once said:
"you're supposed to hate yan mingxiu allegedly but i just couldn't, not even in his scum era, because he was so obvious and so oblivious and so set in his own ideas he kept gaslighting himself into not noticing things. this could have gotten frustrating pretty easily, but again, everything feed into the delicious, delicious suffering. that being said, and because it doesn't seem to be a popular opinion... i think it's important to empathise with both of them, or at least sympathise, for maximum enjoyment of all that angst. you cannot cry over yan mingxiu's pain if you want him to get hit by a bus. "
and i think they're right in saying that the story can only be enjoyed if we can empathise with both characters.
that's a very good start I really wanna know how it went downhill from there... literally🤭. I have a question…
No they just had him in such a different hairstyle, which is usually something that can define your entire look. you can see him in daily life with his hair down and his glasses like this and i still think he looks the same as he did 3 years ago tbh https://twitter.com/Arin14tt/status/1784467951753871668/video/1
I think it's very important to note that this story is NOT of bodyswapping genre but transmigration genre. I won't go into detail as not to spoil the series but if you think a bit deeper about the difference between these genres, I think the way the series is executing this transmigration is already very good and it makes a lot of sense
novel ming: VERY BAD temper, VERY arrogant, very cold, has god-like beauty and is wayyyyyy more beautiful than joe who is average looking in the novel, does not give any regards to anyone else in the world other than his precious brother in law tong
series ming: still hot temper, more spoiled brat than cold, series ming doesn't emphasize his attractivenesss and beauty, is shown to be more complex in terms of relationship with his family, has a loving bond with his sister (different from novel where his sister is kind of a bitch and they dont care about each other at all), is generally more considerate to joe after they have spent 6 months living together
-> i think series ming is more humanized and he feels more realistic than novel ming, novel ming is like... the kind of over the top bad temper typical arrogant ceo male lead who verbally use female lead like crazy yet fl still like them that you often see in soap operas if you know what i mean
novel joe and series joe are basically the same except novel joe is more emphasized to be more mature, coax ming A LOT more whenever novel ming gets illogically jealous about sol and the age gap is more visible bc of ming's childlishness temper in contrast with joe's maturity in the novel. i do think series joe falls in love a little bit quicker than novel joe, but personality-wise they're the same. novel joe is shown to be more experienced tho (he gets invited to a threesome and turned it down before ming calls joe up for their first dinner together) even tho the series make joe seem a bit naive and golden retriever innocent.
but yea i do think the series is intentionally not emphasizing on the age gap because the characterization of series and novel are very different so it may not make sense to keep the same age gap if the characterization is already different from the novel
I fully support you dropping the series if you think it's not for you though because as novel readers I think we both agree that Ming is pretty much irredeemable but a friend who also read the novel once said:
"you're supposed to hate yan mingxiu allegedly but i just couldn't, not even in his scum era, because he was so obvious and so oblivious and so set in his own ideas he kept gaslighting himself into not noticing things. this could have gotten frustrating pretty easily, but again, everything feed into the delicious, delicious suffering. that being said, and because it doesn't seem to be a popular opinion... i think it's important to empathise with both of them, or at least sympathise, for maximum enjoyment of all that angst. you cannot cry over yan mingxiu's pain if you want him to get hit by a bus. "
and i think they're right in saying that the story can only be enjoyed if we can empathise with both characters.