I like this drama, but I find it strange how some Korean dramas "talk" about abuse... The artist was abused as a kid, yet the drama tries to resolve this issue strangely, something along the lines of "I abused you because I loved you" It does not work for me. Yes, people have hard lives but there is no excuse for abuse, if the mother was brought back into the picture she should have put her son first, preached him by saying sorry and recognizing her bad actions, then asked him to slowly accept a few meetings in a public space so they could talk, give him a chance to vent out his feelings. The abuser in this drama acts clueless, and usually, they are not.
Yes, families need to get along and heal, but it does not always work. Both sides must deserve the relationship; there is no such thing as "the parents are always right, so the child does not have a right to an opinion" Parents and children should communicate! But in this case, the mother did what she wanted... whatever drama she had in her life, the kid paid the price. The main girl is a good person, but she should not see the mother just as a victim and discard the kid's experience; it takes time for them to heal and resolve things. The guy would contact the mother when he feels ready.
Yes, I understand. I did not think about gaining something. I am not a big fan of his and I don't have anything agains Sae Ron. The reason why I wrote a lot here is because I saw similar cases before and untill there was an official investigation no one knew all the truth and how things went down (untill then there were multiple naratives, speculations, and the intentions of each party were not clear) but still I saw vishos comments and just a lot of hatred from both sides in the comment section. Depending on what was said I tried to call out certain acusations. But I am aware that people are sensitive to the subject, and I know people come from diffrent places... Many would look at my country in a bad way, because just like in Korea, in my country underage teens can date over-age people, and it happens a lot and it's not because gassliting or manipulation. So I obviously did not jump with hate at this news, but I though a lot that there was a person that died. No matter how I look at this I could not blame only KSH on her death, that is my opinion, because from my point of view her life was so hard that there are multiple reasons why she did it... Everything in her life is part of the situation, I can't just signal one thing out.
Yes, I think people have the right to point fingers call out the bad behaviour that they see, but there is more happening here, they are attacking him (wiching for his death and so on). I saw horrible comments.
Yes I saw the time line, I saw the Chinese fans talking about stuff, but I was again their word . I prefer to not point fingers, ask questions and wait for an investigation before I write mean things. But I do like people discusing things and going back and forth in a civilized manner.
Yes, this I undestand. But this is more than that, people are accusing him of being a "serial killer" and the way they speack is insane.I saw some horrible things written.
I would want the police to verify the evidence shown. So, if they take all the pics and they say they are not fake and they say the dates... same with the messages. Also, I would appreciate it if they would show the entire conversation so I could see the context. Because for me, it's a she-said-he-said situation. They came out with pictures, and they said they are lovers, he said they are not. The picture in which they were kissing was from 2019, and they dated then. Having a selfie with someone does not mean a relationship. The texts were sent from her cousin's phone... Handwritten things are better, that way they can prove who wrote them. So if the police investigated, they would have to affirm what is real or not. Because the family has a narrative and the actor has another... And usually, the truth is somewhere in the middle. He went to the digital forensic analysis and showed that the texts shown are not conversations with him or even with the same person... but again that is his word... those papers can be fake. I need an official investigation to go through both sides and say what is real and what is not. I will not believe what is circulated on the internet. I said so from the beginning. Why didn't the family go to the police from the start? Their main accusation is that KSH had something to do with her death. That is serious, they would have asked for them to investigate.
I am still not sure they dated from when she was 15. They broke up in 2020 the DUI was in 2022 he had nothing to do with her by then ( she was dating someoen else then)... so she was just an employee. They helped her out and she got 3 years to pay back. "Soo hyun has been touting Gold Medalist as his company." This I never saw, I always say others saying that but not him.
"He said during the conference he felt responsible for the cast and crew on QoTs." Yes, because he was directly implicated in this, he did not want to pull down the production.
Yes, I saw this but still I don't take them as credible at all. Because the source has an agenda. This is not an objective third party... I even saw a more detailed "evidence list".
But she was not his employee. People keep saying it's his company, it not. On paper the company is under his brother's name and he is an asociate... Also if it's such a huge company there are more people involved in running a company, executives and so on. You would be kind in helping, but no company running a bussines would. No company would want to lose money over someone. Also it's Korea, I think things are better now but from the majority of case if celebrities f-up they a kicked out. I do think your view is about kindness, because in reality I saw idols kiked out for less. Now, he did not answer her (he said it was because the company told everyone not to) and no noe answered... this could be selfish but at the same time they do have a lot to lose so they have a reason to stay away. It's similar with the scandal of Blake and Ryan, people now say the Jackman will probably trow them under the bus, even though for a dacade they were "friends"... Maybe it's instinctive to celebrities to be hiper focused on staying away from things that can turn into something complicated or problematic. He said so himself, he was thinking of his career... Yes, that can be seen as selfish, but they all think like this...
That is your opinion, for me is not enough. I can easely eddit mesages and fake pics or invent a narative. And obviusly because it's just one sided and not offcialy confirmed and prooven everyone is required to use the word allegedly....
That damage control consultant must be fired. Absolute trash.ETA: He should have not involved her family in his…
But the contract was with the company... People keep saying he asked her, no, he did not. He is an asociate, he is not a big boss, not even on paper. The main share holder is his brother. And the asking money part was after 3 years and it was by the legal team. There is no way you owe money to the bank or a corporation and you can not pay it back... Also from what I know the company helped her while she was under them, they always coverd the hospital bill when she did self harm...
Yes, circumstantial evidence. You see when someone with a motive says something a third party should confirm it (proper investigation) to prove the evidence is true. Because a pic of a text or pictures can just be taken out of context and changed. The technology is crazy today. I can't trust any version fully. I already saw a similar story all proof... But the truth came out after the "victim" was sued. A lot of the text was manipulated, taken out of context (cut in a way to change the narrative or conversation), and it was found out the "victim" was not a "victim". I think the case was 2 years ago or something. The guy kind of lost his career, he is active but lost his company and work. Only for people to find out he was innocent. A third party should investigate in my opinion. He has things to fight for (so he has an angle) but the family is the same.
He came out and gave interviews and so did her Husband... both guys spoke out
After 2020 when KSR and KSH broke up Sae Ron had a boyfriend for 2 years (the guy is one of her best friends) and then later in 2024 she met her husband (a guy that works in New York and the guy is the pictures with the caption "marry") they got married in 2025 for 1 moths then annulled the marriage. (there are 2 narratives about this guy as well) People are not talking about this because it goes against what the family said, and it's a narrative that KSH supports.
Why do yo think if he is innocent he would embrace the family? It's not his responsibility to do anything... Maybe if he would like to do something out of the kindness of his heart then yes, but he does not have to. She was drinking and driving and the consequences were that she had to pay in 3 years but she did not manage to do so. It does not matter if it was KSR or not the procedure would have been the same, with the legal team. Would you ex help your family if something would happen to you? Because in many case there is no contact after a breakup. After an official investigation we will find the truth, which I believe it's somewhere in the middle.
That damage control consultant must be fired. Absolute trash.ETA: He should have not involved her family in his…
Not invasion of privacy more like defamation... As for him, he said the version the family narrated is not true, so he is suing them on the same thing, defamation. But after an official investigation we will find out. I think the truth is somewhere in the middle... The idea is he did nothing illegal, maybe he should have been a kinder person, but it's hard to prove that because let's be serious tons of exes ban the other after a breackup and there is no communication left. It was not his responsibility to do anything for her, objectively speaking it was her and the company (it has nothing to do with him). If there would not have been an accident she would have not been in the station. She was dating already another guy... so I think people are emotional and want to get KSH, so they blame everything on him (it does not work like that).
Makes sense :)) The other side constantly told their version he has the right to do the same. You can get pissed and so on. When the official investigation will be over people will know facts, until then we only have 2 versions to a story.
That damage control consultant must be fired. Absolute trash.ETA: He should have not involved her family in his…
He is not being sued at all, there is not case agaisnt him. The family is suing the youtuber. And KSH open a case againt the family , "aunt" and Garosero.
A video sent by Kim Soo-hyun to Kim Sae-ron... It's a video of him talking about 'I'm looking at panties and bras…
It seems like? :)) It sounds like such a fact. He is a pedo I get it, but it's funny how people keep thinking they know what he was thinking. To me this looks like locker room talk, because clearly he was with other people (guys). So he sent this to her? We know this from where? and why would she keep this? Sry, but sometimes not everything on the internet is true....
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Yes, people have hard lives but there is no excuse for abuse, if the mother was brought back into the picture she should have put her son first, preached him by saying sorry and recognizing her bad actions, then asked him to slowly accept a few meetings in a public space so they could talk, give him a chance to vent out his feelings.
The abuser in this drama acts clueless, and usually, they are not.
Yes, families need to get along and heal, but it does not always work. Both sides must deserve the relationship; there is no such thing as "the parents are always right, so the child does not have a right to an opinion" Parents and children should communicate! But in this case, the mother did what she wanted... whatever drama she had in her life, the kid paid the price.
The main girl is a good person, but she should not see the mother just as a victim and discard the kid's experience; it takes time for them to heal and resolve things. The guy would contact the mother when he feels ready.
I did not think about gaining something. I am not a big fan of his and I don't have anything agains Sae Ron.
The reason why I wrote a lot here is because I saw similar cases before and untill there was an official investigation no one knew all the truth and how things went down (untill then there were multiple naratives, speculations, and the intentions of each party were not clear) but still I saw vishos comments and just a lot of hatred from both sides in the comment section. Depending on what was said I tried to call out certain acusations.
But I am aware that people are sensitive to the subject, and I know people come from diffrent places... Many would look at my country in a bad way, because just like in Korea, in my country underage teens can date over-age people, and it happens a lot and it's not because gassliting or manipulation.
So I obviously did not jump with hate at this news, but I though a lot that there was a person that died.
No matter how I look at this I could not blame only KSH on her death, that is my opinion, because from my point of view her life was so hard that there are multiple reasons why she did it... Everything in her life is part of the situation, I can't just signal one thing out.
Yes, I think people have the right to point fingers call out the bad behaviour that they see, but there is more happening here, they are attacking him (wiching for his death and so on). I saw horrible comments.
Yes I saw the time line, I saw the Chinese fans talking about stuff, but I was again their word .
I prefer to not point fingers, ask questions and wait for an investigation before I write mean things. But I do like people discusing things and going back and forth in a civilized manner.
But this is more than that, people are accusing him of being a "serial killer" and the way they speack is insane.I saw some horrible things written.
So, if they take all the pics and they say they are not fake and they say the dates... same with the messages. Also, I would appreciate it if they would show the entire conversation so I could see the context.
Because for me, it's a she-said-he-said situation.
They came out with pictures, and they said they are lovers, he said they are not. The picture in which they were kissing was from 2019, and they dated then.
Having a selfie with someone does not mean a relationship.
The texts were sent from her cousin's phone... Handwritten things are better, that way they can prove who wrote them.
So if the police investigated, they would have to affirm what is real or not.
Because the family has a narrative and the actor has another... And usually, the truth is somewhere in the middle.
He went to the digital forensic analysis and showed that the texts shown are not conversations with him or even with the same person... but again that is his word... those papers can be fake. I need an official investigation to go through both sides and say what is real and what is not.
I will not believe what is circulated on the internet.
I said so from the beginning. Why didn't the family go to the police from the start? Their main accusation is that KSH had something to do with her death. That is serious, they would have asked for them to investigate.
They broke up in 2020 the DUI was in 2022 he had nothing to do with her by then ( she was dating someoen else then)... so she was just an employee. They helped her out and she got 3 years to pay back.
"Soo hyun has been touting Gold Medalist as his company." This I never saw, I always say others saying that but not him.
"He said during the conference he felt responsible for the cast and crew on QoTs." Yes, because he was directly implicated in this, he did not want to pull down the production.
This is not an objective third party... I even saw a more detailed "evidence list".
You would be kind in helping, but no company running a bussines would.
No company would want to lose money over someone. Also it's Korea, I think things are better now but from the majority of case if celebrities f-up they a kicked out.
I do think your view is about kindness, because in reality I saw idols kiked out for less.
Now, he did not answer her (he said it was because the company told everyone not to) and no noe answered... this could be selfish but at the same time they do have a lot to lose so they have a reason to stay away.
It's similar with the scandal of Blake and Ryan, people now say the Jackman will probably trow them under the bus, even though for a dacade they were "friends"... Maybe it's instinctive to celebrities to be hiper focused on staying away from things that can turn into something complicated or problematic. He said so himself, he was thinking of his career... Yes, that can be seen as selfish, but they all think like this...
And obviusly because it's just one sided and not offcialy confirmed and prooven everyone is required to use the word allegedly....
He is an asociate, he is not a big boss, not even on paper. The main share holder is his brother. And the asking money part was after 3 years and it was by the legal team.
There is no way you owe money to the bank or a corporation and you can not pay it back...
Also from what I know the company helped her while she was under them, they always coverd the hospital bill when she did self harm...
You see when someone with a motive says something a third party should confirm it (proper investigation) to prove the evidence is true. Because a pic of a text or pictures can just be taken out of context and changed. The technology is crazy today.
I can't trust any version fully.
I already saw a similar story all proof... But the truth came out after the "victim" was sued. A lot of the text was manipulated, taken out of context (cut in a way to change the narrative or conversation), and it was found out the "victim" was not a "victim". I think the case was 2 years ago or something. The guy kind of lost his career, he is active but lost his company and work. Only for people to find out he was innocent.
A third party should investigate in my opinion.
He has things to fight for (so he has an angle) but the family is the same.
People are not talking about this because it goes against what the family said, and it's a narrative that KSH supports.
It's not his responsibility to do anything... Maybe if he would like to do something out of the kindness of his heart then yes, but he does not have to.
She was drinking and driving and the consequences were that she had to pay in 3 years but she did not manage to do so. It does not matter if it was KSR or not the procedure would have been the same, with the legal team.
Would you ex help your family if something would happen to you? Because in many case there is no contact after a breakup.
After an official investigation we will find the truth, which I believe it's somewhere in the middle.
As for him, he said the version the family narrated is not true, so he is suing them on the same thing, defamation. But after an official investigation we will find out.
I think the truth is somewhere in the middle...
The idea is he did nothing illegal, maybe he should have been a kinder person, but it's hard to prove that because let's be serious tons of exes ban the other after a breackup and there is no communication left.
It was not his responsibility to do anything for her, objectively speaking it was her and the company (it has nothing to do with him). If there would not have been an accident she would have not been in the station. She was dating already another guy... so I think people are emotional and want to get KSH, so they blame everything on him (it does not work like that).
The other side constantly told their version he has the right to do the same.
You can get pissed and so on.
When the official investigation will be over people will know facts, until then we only have 2 versions to a story.
And KSH open a case againt the family , "aunt" and Garosero.
He is a pedo I get it, but it's funny how people keep thinking they know what he was thinking. To me this looks like locker room talk, because clearly he was with other people (guys).
So he sent this to her? We know this from where? and why would she keep this?
Sry, but sometimes not everything on the internet is true....