Renata MJ

I know the content and what they said. But they did not say they are love letters and I was saying I did not consider them love letters from the content (this is just my oppinion).
I wrote I love you and I miss you to my friends as well, I actually did write letter and I have some right next to me :) and it was not in a romantic way.
He said he wrote to multiple people and I nkow that while being isolated and while writing people can get emotional. I also imagine you would write "I miss you and I love you" to people you care about, after being isolated for a year or more.
This is just my opinion, but if people what to give a dirty twist to something they can, and the same thing dependiing of the story can look inocent.
The reason I say this is because when I was 10/11 I was very close to a teacher, he was obviously way older than me. He actually died a few year ago.
He was an art teacher and he was my inspiration, I learn alot of things from him and he encouraged me (in the end I chose to study art thanks to him). But everyone else was afraid of him.
I used to spend more hours in school with him and the took pictures of me, and I ended up having a lot of paintings. My parents liked him a lot.
But the kids in school kept making stupid jokes, "ooo you are his girl friend"... very stupid!
The idea is that this man never did anything wrong and I was never hurt. But people could have interpreted things wrongly.
Yes, I understand that in some countries people that are not the parents can't get close to kids, but in my country it's normal. The entire comunity raised me, not only my family. Even this art teacher, took time off of his programe because he recognised I enjoyed art and without money he helped me learn.
So in this situation I just what to see an official investigation before I point the finger (but that is just me).

Yes, I understood. What I meant to say by this is that from what I know people saw them but no one saw the nas dirty. Now that someone said "Hey these are dirty" without an official investigation, people still agreed they were.
There was no "innocent until proven guilty". At this point, we just had the accusation, and people just condemned him.
There are stories behind pictures but maybe not the stories we were told.
There are already 2 narratives on the internet, and the internet started creating more, even suggesting the actor is some type of serial killer (I don't know if you heard that part)... Things are going crazy.

I understand what you mean.
Teen usualy can't navigate complicated situations, but I think it differs from country to country. The reason I say this is because, there must be a reason the age of consent of each country is diffrent (the society is diffrent, the maturity is different and maybe even what is required by teens is diffrent).
I wrote in the comments that in my county the law are similar to the Korean laws. I also mentioned that teens are more mature and are sexualy active and some do have relationships with overage partners.
And I know for a fact, they were not groomed of forced. I saw with my own two eyes the teen persuing older people, and in some of the case they got married have kids and are happy. Teens can also drink alcohol with parental aproval/supervision, they can get married at 16 with parental aprooval, and some do get married at a younger age (the majority of the girls I know, even from highschool, by 27 they were married and with kids). The rate of divorce is not high is only 26%... So things somehow work fine under diffrent laws or rules. Dispide these diffrences between lets say US laws and my country... in my country we still function well. Not a lot of cases of crime (if I remember right my country has one of the lowest crame rates in Europe), even with teens drinking from time to time, there are not a lot of cases of overdrinking...
I also what to be clear that, pedophilia exists and is seen as bad, but it is defined diffrently, and I guess it is like this because teens are sexualy active. In my country we do consider grooming and taking advantage bad. But the law sayis it like this, it is illegal only is an over the age person tries to corrup and sexualize an under age person that is innocent and is not alredy sexualy active. So is someone under age is sexualy aware and active and they want to be with an older person, that is not seen as bad. Only if an adult person tries to pray on someone that does not understand sexuality (is still inocent) and they try to sexualize that person, is considered illegal. The oppinion of the under age person is the most important and a psychologist is always consulted in this cases.
If this guy had bed intentions and he did dirty stuff, he will pay one way or another, it's the way of the universe, no noe escapes. But if this situation was not like that, I hope he will not be another victime and take his life.
I nkow 100% that Sae Ron was not a usual kid, and that her life and circumstances can not be compared with a simple normal kid. She was always interacting and working with adults and she was living like one. She worked as a model from 1 years old and transitioned in to acting in 2019 at age 9. She at 15 worked more than a lot of lazy adult do. She was mature and admirable. But unfurtuntly she was bullied froms school from a very young age and she did not fave a stabile family situation. This is why I did not automaticaly think that her being around adults makes it in a dirty situation.
But this youtuber you said is bad did exactly the same thing Garosero did. So that is why I thought non of what was showen is 100% and that the carative could have been twisted.
The famly even said that they are not exactly going aste the actor, they want the youtuber and the lawyears. They said they kind of need the scandal with the actor to get to the other 2.
I thought both sides are a bit shady in a way. I don't want to point fingers without the official investigation because I saw both outcomes before, some were actually bad but some were victimes.

No, legally he can't be in trouble for grooming. Legally he did nothing wrong, because the age of consent was 13 in 2015 in Korea. The parents didn't even accuse him of that. They accused him of cutting her off when she was very low morally, and pushing her to despair.
Their lawyer said they want to get the youtuber (that said that Kim Sae Ron was married with a guy from New York, even aborted a baby) because the parents said they want Sae Ron's name to be cleared of such rumors. The Lawyer also said they want to get the layers that sent her those letters.
They sued the youtuber for now. They did not open an official case directly against the actor. Now people looking at this they say it's hard to open a case against him. The dating thing was not illegal at that time (the law change only in 2020 making the age 16 now), everything on the company is not on his name, it's on his brother's name, he is just an associate/partner. So on paper no one needs his approval or signature, no action is his decision or under his control.
The internet spiraled with the stories, now some people even indirectly call him a serial killer, blaming other suicides on him.
And all this story has 2 narratives on the internet, and no official investigation, so it's a situation of he-said -she said, the evidence is circumstantial, it would not hold up. One needs to prove without a doubt something.
And in my opinion both sides have good points but also shady points.
Anyways I will never say anything bad, but I do put questions because that is how I digg for more info to understand better both sides. And I am waiting for an official investigation for facts.

I watch a guy on YouTube who is usually very objective and calm and never bashes on anyone. In this case, he said he was a fan of the actor but he tends to believe the family.
Anyways, he is Korean worked in the Korean media but is now independent. And he speaks flawless English, so he presents everything to foreigners. The name is Seoulite TV.
He usually is not pointing fingers and he keeps calm and objective presenting all the sides and also interacting and trying to answer questions from the comment sections and addressing concerns. He just dropped a video. And I found out that one of the reasons that the fans might have been bullying her and her family is that apparently, the family was not stable. The mother is known for having some issues, apparently, she tried to take her and her family's life once, and she was stopped. and the father was always in and out, so not constantly there as a stable parental figure.
So the haters just always found reasons to bash them.
Also, it is said that Sae Ron, because of her being an actor, spent a lot of time with adults. So for work purposes, she was always surrounded by "stranger" adults. But I am curious who were the adults that were there on her off time? Because if no one was there, that meant she had to fend for herself alone the majority of the time.
This information just makes me think this case may be even more complicated to figure out because even that base situation is not normal, so the reasoning behind decisions can be also unusual.

No, I knew of GS before this scandal. He was one of the channels spreading things on BTS... inventing stories about their military and he was the one taking New Jean's side in that scandal.
So even before this story, I thought he was shady, even more, when by official investigations his content was proven fake.
He has an agenda and he is very politically charged, he has extreme views. Did you see his videos? He has propaganda.
Anyways, he has hits and misses as well... that is why in my eyes for now this story can go any way. I do want an official investigation.

I don't think it's easy to be a child celebrity, even in the west, a lot of them had spiraled out of control.
I imagine in Korea where there is such intense competition, people target the ones that seem to be successful.
She was young and incredibly talented.
As for the famly I don't know (I though there were strange things in the story, but because there is not official investigation for now, we don't know) after the DUI, people said Sae Ron was spending too much and had a money problems. Others asked where her money is and complained that the family were muching off of her (she was the main bread winner). But again these are just rumors. I even saw some say that her mother is young and maybe she did not know how to handle the situation.
Anyways. When I herad the news of her death I got pissed at the industry, too many die very young. I am traumatized. But still I don't want to attack another person before 100% official investigation. Too much pointing the finger on the internet.

Yes. I read this.
They had a contract of 3 years when they covered her. And since they had a paper trail, they said they had to send the letter as protocol.
If I remember it was also mentioned in the media that they had a verbal agreement, that she could pay everything back slowly. That is why in her text she mentioned something similar.
The idea is, that they are saying they sent the letter as protocol.
There are 2 versions circulating on the internet. Because I saw some say there never was a 3-year contract and that they sued her for not paying and increased the sum (but in the other version, it's not like this).
That is why I want an official investigation because it's a he-said-she-said situation, and the internet keeps adding stuff.

No, is because legally they can get in trouble for defamation. People can not accuse others without proof.
And everything shown is circumstantial.
Until investigation, it's innocent until proven guilty right? And he was not proven guilty.

Baseline of what? You can't apply the same rules to every country.
In the West suicide is seen as a sin... in the East not so much. In Japan, suicide can even be seen as something that can bring you honor in some cases. The baseline in Asia is 100% not the baseline in the West. It's not rare at all.
"Korea has the highest suicide rate among OECD countries, with suicide being a major cause of death among those in their teens, twenties, and thirties. Korea's suicide rate (per 100,000 population) was 25.2 in 2022, and varied from 1983 to 2022 with economic crises and social issues."
Culturally is a huge choice.
In my country, if one takes their life, they don't even get a church burial. In Christian countries, people see suicide as something unforgivable.
So the statistics of a country do not match the ones in others.

I just foud out that she was a baby model from 1 year old, and she modeled all her life and transitioned to acting in 2009.
Got this on her bulling from an young age.
"In an episode of Knowing Bros, Kim Sae Ron revealed how she was bullied when she was young. How she dealt with being an outcast when her projects started to gain popularity. How she was treated so badly because she was a celebrity. How someone called her, asked her to come out, only to find no one outside. How she would go home barefoot because they always hid her shoes for fun. How it felt going home, passing through a playground, reading the mean scribbles about her. How some kids would invite her to birthday parties that never existed.
When asked if she ever regretted being a child actress because of the unpleasant things she endured, Kim Sae Ron expressed how hard it was for her at first, but she loved acting so much that she decided to continue.
“The moment the ending credits came, and I saw my name, I felt huge joy.”
Also I found out that she had a project in 2024 but then she steped down because of health issues.
You can also look up her official pages and post, to see what people wrote, but after her death maybe some people deleted their posts.

I never save links. I remember being in the comment sections and seeing haters. But I think people just envied her. It's Korean society they are such perfectionists, they can find any reason.
Sulli was bullied for not wearing a braw. Isn't that retarded?
Mayne, I will find articles. If I find them I will post them here.

Lol love letters? What part of them were those love letter?

What? :))) I know for a fact Garosero is controversial and untrustworthy because he alredy lied and invented stories about other entertainers, plus he has an agenda he is an extremist. lol
There is a reason why a lot of people don't like him.
The parents should have went directly to the police.
There is not better proof for any of them, it's also the reason everyone talking about this is using the words "allegedly" because there is no good enough proof. It's her word agains his and everythnig is circumstantial and hearsay.

There are fans who posted pics with him in 2022 saying he still has a mole there... So again 2 stories.
As for the items, still does not explain anything.
I have clothes that are 30 years old and I am still using. So how can using items for a longer time prove the date of a picture or a relationship?

There is litteraly no evidence :))
Only hearsay and circumstantial, that is why everyone making content on this use the word "allegedly" because nothing was prooven.

But they say it was an "open secret" and these pics were not under the radar, they were on the internet, it's just that people did not have a story to get mad at. They sure love to attack people on the internet.

Suicide is rare? Not in Korea and Japan, at one point these two were competing as the countries with the highest numbers of suicides in the world.
Sulli and Goo Hara were bullied but they were also victims of the Burning Sun guys, I hope you know that.

From what I know she was bullied even before the DUI. There were rumors on the internet bad-mouthing her and her family.
I think they came from envy, she was on the screen from when she was 9, and she was an S lever child celebrity. So I guess people envied her. I can't find any other reason.

The story about the 6-year-old relationship is strange.
First, they say it was an "open secret" but somehow the parents only found out when she was 19, even though the actor was sending letters openly to their house from when he was in the military (2017-2019). So I find the story strange, and it makes me question it.

They did not forget the loan... it was a contract. They gave her 3 years to pay back, but she did not.