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They're all supposed to be protagonists. Some more than others. Truth is no character was flesh out like Non, Tan and Tee. And Phi isn't more developed than Jin. What people don't seem to understand is that it was never a story about PhiJin, TeeWhite and the others; it was about Non's hardship and demise and how the guys had a hand in it. I can understand if we point out that a bunch of characters weren't developed enough cause they spend too much time on Non and the bullying, but I don't get why all the criticism is toward Jin specifically.
I don't care about what BOC said and how they promoted the series. Once the series airs we should be able to understand what we're watching and let go of whatever promises the production house told us.

Funny how some of you are dragging Copper's character for "being under developed", "not existing" and so on when Fluke, White and Top were the same but I don't see you complaining about them... The level of hate Jin is getting is insane.

What did Sammon say ?

Exactly! Well said.

I agree. I didn't see it as a redemption arc cause he did nothing to help Non. Yes, he prevented him for getting killed by his uncle but then what ? He still didn't go to the police, still didn't help Non to escape. He had remorse but was still playing safe by following his uncle's orders. Tee is the dumbest character ever: how come you deliver Non to you criminal uncle and still expect nothing bad to happen ? Please!
With this episode we know Tee feels guilty but it doesn't change shit: Non would be alive if he hadn't scheme against him.

I love this drama but I agree with you, the romance part ain't it. Either by choice or they failed.

I shouldn't have watched this after Back From the Brink and Till the End of the Moon... The pacing was a bit uneven with 12 good episodes, followed by the boring shards arc. Then it picked it up and finished strongly. The Heaven Emperor was a bit cartoonish, like there was no nuance in his thought process. I couldn't care less about his apologies at the end.
I liked the main couple (especially the strong FL) cause they really acted like lovers.
Overall it was good but I was expecting much better.
8/10.

Lol, well said. I feel like teenagers with no brain are watching the show. There's zero nuance in their comments.

Finally a good episode. Soga is so cute when in love. I appreciate how he's learning and growing each time. Saeke too but I still don't like him much. He initiated this whole relationship but I find him a bit cold toward Soga. I think that what is missing : the MCs lack chemistry and warmth but I don't know if it's deliberate to show the characters have nothing in common, aren't supposed to be together, of it's just the actors fault...

Let's keep hoping. Ossan's love had a season 2 five years after so who knows.

What an odd watch. Great acting, good storyline but somehow it was boring and unmemorable. I've watched worse series that gave me more emotions.
7.5/10

No cause they both were kids: Qian a teenager and Yuhan 4 or 5 years younger. There's nothing weird or creepy.

Same. Stubborn and passive. I didn't get the narrative choices concerning Tharn, he acted like a spectator in his own story. Quite disappointing.

Agree. The story is interesting and the actors are great but the directing is all over the place, confusing and overdramatic. I hope it'll get better now that we're in the present time.

Non made mistakes but he's still a victim. I don't get why you can't understand that. Non being dumb and making mistakes doesn't erase the bullying, the grooming, the beating he received from Tee's uncle and the life of slavery he's apparently living now. You're fighting this point like your life depends on it.

Tee is evil. He knew Non was alive. Let him work as a slave for his uncle. His character is unredeemable.

Did OP say that ?

I wouldn't want a boyfriend like Sakae who's unable to speak for himself, to make choices and stick to them. Very unpleasant.

I don't trust Phi. Something was strange this episode. The whole scene where he explained Tan's plan ain't it. He was too calm when Jin confessed about the video and too sweet when he took Jin's hand and promised to protect him. I don't know. I was waiting for him to laugh hysterically and hit Jin with the machete... I wouldn't be surprised if he's the real mastermind behind all this.

"this was made for an audience that I don't relate to and I'm mad about it" -> Nobody says that. Usually criticism comes with arguments but y'all rather sums it up just like you did with your sentence above... And if you think expressing dislike is being mad I can't help you here...
"annoy others" ? So reading comments you don't agree with annoy you ? Lol. Then why not join a discord or fan private group if you only accept like-minded people ? I'll say it again, MDL is not a fanpage, you don't dictate who should watch and comment here.
It's one thing to disagree with people respectfully, it's another to look down on them. I've been watching jbls since Takumi-Kun, in fact my favorite bls are japanese and I'm sure I'm not the only one. Saying " you don't deserve JBLs" and rewriting comments to fit your narrative (" whining about them not making out 25 minutes straight") doesn't make OP smarter, on the contrary...
But I'll stop here cause I've been reading you for a while, and I've noticed you're one of the people always telling others to go away, you don't accept sharing this space, so this convo is sterile. Have a good day.