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Oh woahhh. Where have you been? I remembered we argued back and forth about this show on this very page when ep 1 dropped.
I remember you passionately insisted you weren't gonna watch it because you hated omegaverse.

None of them aside from Babe have a personal issue with Tony but they have a team's issue with Tony because his car racing company is their competitor and Tony have been sabotaging them.
These guys are a ride or die for one another.

Sympathising with Way and Tony so much by claiming they are Tony's "victims?"

Charlie, Jeff, Pete and Babe are all Tony's victims, including every other kid that Tony has adopted and sold off.
From what I gathered from the show, Charlie was known to not "have any powers " even though he is an alpha. If anything, he suffered more than Way who is an enigma. This means he was deem inferior and defective.
Way has left Tony's side for 10yrs but "chose" to remain Tony's mole.
Kenta "chose" to be Tony's assistant and right hand man.
Jeff and Charlie chose to say "enough is enough."
Babe and Pete "chose" to leave and try to take Tony down.
These are the choices they made for themselves. AS YOU MAKE YOUR BED, SO YOU'LL LIE ON IT.

So coming around to expect sympathy for a character that literally immobilised his "supposed bestie of 10yrs" and tried to rape him while hiding under the "I did it for us" speech is absurd. We all know he didn't try to rape Babe for Tony. He did it to fulfill his selfish desires because he desired Babe for himself. He literally said he was going to "revenge" on Babe.
You want me to feel sorry for Way? Heck No.
Why did his twisted mind not have any desire to "revenge" on Tony? But it's Babe he wanted to do that to, for what reason exactly? Because his feelings were not returned?
Forgive me for not buying the " I want Tony to leave us alone" so I tried to force you to have sex with me even though you clearly didn't want to and don't worry "I'm sure our baby will be safe with us when you give birth"...😂😂
Pwleeeaaaseee...
Trying to gaslight me? Not going to work.😏😑

Because they all want to take Tony down and finding out Way SA Babe wasn't the only reason they ignored Way at all. They ignored Way because they found out Way was a "mole" all along. He had lied to them from the very beginning. Remember Alan liked Way alot and was always encouraging him, only to find out he lied from the very beginning and have beem telling Tony all their plans.

SA or attempted rape is not a joke. So even if they refused to forgive him for that, I don't blame them. HE WAS BABE'S FRIEND FOR 10YRS BUT HAVE BEEN LYING ALL ALONG AND THEN TRIED TO RAPE BABE. That is not something that's easy to forgive. That was a crime against them all!

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Yeah..I enjoyed this show a lot and I'll miss it. It was the only show that never made me anxious while awaiting an ep because I was confident that every ep will be beautiful.

Raw and agonising. I'm really proud of Pavel

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Well, I don't know what Nut would have liked but I've always said that hating on Pooh won't change anything. Even if Nut was made to play Charlie, he would have had to also follow the script.

I honestly feel people are more critical of Day here too, when like... what do people WANT him to do?//

It's sad that they expect Day to just miraculously cope with his new situation and accept everything and be okay with them.
What happens if tomorrow Mhok is simply exhausted from looking after Day? What happens if he wants to leave but is unable to due to guilt of abadoning a disabled person? Would he force himself to remain at Day's side knowing fully well he doesn't love him anymore? If he breaks up with Day then, won't people drown him in spit and call him heartless?
This is why they both need to figure out themselves. No one should feel burdened or caged in a relationship.

A lot of people value independence and you would think that they'll understand Day.
I don't understand how this can be called Lazy writing.

Exactly.

I think people are too idealistic sometimes.
The word "love" and the expectations towards it are much too dreamy in shows.

It's funny that they think Day being blind and Mhok loving him is enough. They don't know that life is hard for "everyone" and for young adults who are just about starting their own lives, throw in a "loss of sight", there's going to be mighty big adjustments to make.
None of them are established yet. Day is still under his mom and Mhok doesn't have a stable job yet.
Day just lost his last hope at regaining his sight and although he's acting strong, he is feeling shitty inside. It'll take him time to accept his new situation. He sure as heck does not want to be a burden to Mhok.
So they both need to figure out their lives to some extent before attempting to actually be together.

What if Zee were to pretend to be Sprite and look at First exactly the same way?😁

Do you know there are real cases of twins pretending to be the other in front of the other's lover?😂

No..more like prejudice against the roles Babe and Charlie played in the show.

Love is beautiful but at the end of the day, love is never enough.
Believing that just because they love each other is enough for a happy ending is "very idealistic"
Being disabled is not easy, especially not for someone who just lost their sight. Imagine day finding out his boyfriend had an offer to work abroad, did not tell him but lied to him either, and when confronted, he says "he doesn't want to leave him and went on about how his sister died".
Very touching and understandable, but as Day, do you know what's going on inside his head? He's going to be wondering if this his how his life is forever going to be..."being treated like an invalid, being lied to and not being able to see or even read their faces. He's gonna wonder if he's dragging Mhok or somehow blocking him from achieving great things". Personally, I don't wanna be the reason someone sacrifices something that could have meant a lot to them or changed their lives.
Day made what he thinks will be the best decisions for them both. He set Mhok free. Do I like it? No, but I definitely understand him.

Coming to Day's mom, she had made clear since last ep that she doesn't hate Mhok but only wants whats best for her son. This is a woman who was hurt in love, struggled to raise her boys herself and now, her son suddenly lost his sight. It's understandable to be very protective of him regardless whether he is an adult or not. She hired Mhok to be a "caretaker". This is a job role. Relationship ain't the same at all.
Remember she wasn't with Day and Mhok every step of the way and never went out with them, so she doesn't know Mhok at all. Remember Mhok wss the boy who previously would resort to violence to settle problems. Remember Mhok once went out with Day, left him and went to fight someone else. Can you really blame her for being protective over Day?
In this ep, she spoke with Mhok and tested him to see how much he loves Day because she can tell that Day loves him. She believed in Mhok's sincerity and as a mother of a boy who just became disabled, she understood the challenges Day and Mhok are going to face in the future. This is why she was worried for Mhok. Even if anything happens to them both, Day can always fall back to his family but what of Mhok? The love of a mother exists in different forms.

See how Mhok freaked out when he couldn't find Day at home? This is just a snippet of how life is going to be for them in the future until they have established enough trust in each other and have created a stable home for themselves.

I love this writing and this is the first time I think the "misunderstanding trope" was used properly.

Ehmmmm. Nope. I'm not confident. 😀

Because they don't like the guy playing Charlie.

Goodluck, cos you're gonna need it. LT is sad as well

You sure? Okay

Like.... even though I suspect that the accident and death were faked, Babe's grief is palpable and him going through the stages of grief and portraying them so clearly is amazing.
I could feel his loss and I was deeply saddened.