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yes it is (I'm on ep12), but the point is he isn't doing it bcs he loves her he doesn't, he is doing it first bcs of his lust second bcs he want to take revenge on FMLs brother.
I HOPE he understands in later eps what he is doing is wrong and he has to respect FML.
so for bcs there is NO love then these force kisses aren't shown as an OK thing to do they are just some hot scenes to attract attention. when he finally loves her and he still doesn't respect her that's a really bad red sign.

I had problems with this drama but I was ok with it UNTILL EP33 when FML is looking for a good way to cut ties with ML forever and in EP34 ML begging to be loved and no one's gonna love him :))
when will this girl boss era in c-dramas end?
honestly girl bosses are cool too nothing wrong with them but overdoing it to the point men barking like dog for them, that's really disturbing
p.s. I finished the drama it's interesting for me how in ESPECIALLY historical dramas the show men priorities romance and love, throw their future out of the window and women priorities career, so this is the balance you're looking for?
somethings used to be wrong to correcting it you should balance it not do the EXACT opposite.

so couple weeks later she slept with a stranger and you call that someone who knows her selfworth :)))
she LOVED him?? what is your definition of love exactly? what she did doesn't exactly define as being in love with someone, go look it up in dictionary
some of you women are really scary

it's funny how I say she should've communicated with him you say he should've been more understanding of her, I guess Men Are from Mars, Women Are from Venus after all, aren't they? :))
conflicts in relationships are normal we just know they had a couple of them before nothing more than that, you say she reached saturation point, I don't think so. if that is true then tell me why did she wanted the marriage?
if the relationship was strong enough for her to want the marriage it doesn't make sense to me she throw it ALL away for that reason alone. in the drama they kept saying he was a guy who would do whatever she wanted for her
look I'm looking for an answer I put myself in his showes, what if I put my energy and emotion in someone she gets bored (in this case she really gave me the feeling she was bored she just used what he said as an excuse to break up ) call it quits, then what? what's the point? the sleeping with someone else part is just icing on the cake

Is your mentality men are the problem and women are victim? At this point I'm just keep repeating my words
I did say he made a mistake, I didn't put all the blame on her.
Don't put words in my mouth, I didn't say women ONLY want communication and understanding. He is simple, if she wants something I'll give it to her, even if he is not himself ready for it.
Now what did she do? You know it!!
If you want something tell your man WHAT you want, men are not mind readers. If he can't provide it for you HEAR his reasons it's either acceptable or not, then decide what you wanna do, THIS is communication. (Absolutely the opposite is fine too, I mean if a man wants something from a woman)

one question, did you even read my comment thoroughly?
he is not a jerk who after dating a woman says sorry marriage is off the table, I told you he has a problem. instead saying why you feel that way or what's the problem she breaks up with him and sleeps with someone else. reminder he is not just someone who she met for couple months, he is a man who she was planning on marrying, means they were in a deep enough relationship.
In relationship didn't women want understanding and communication? now is it sooo hard to ask what's the problem in these situations? Or you are the exception?

did I say she didn't? but over what and why? it was her FIANCE and he WAS a good guy
I completely explained in my comment why what she did is morally wrong

about the second couple I saw an edit on insta and how women were all cheering for SJS (first crush of ML) for her new relationship and bashing NJS (brother of ML), but why exactly?
a man who is mentioned AGAIN AND AGAIN in the drama would do whatever she wants for her.
one of them said he talked about marriage like he's doing her a favor, no it wasn't at all like that from pov of a man, he said it like that because he wasn't ready for it the way he said it wasn't pleasant, I agree. she should've cancelled the wedding, again I agree. BUT breaking up with him over this and sleeping someone else just a few weeks after her cancelled wedding is REALLY TOO MUCH.
she was right, she indeed cheated on him and he didn't deserve that. I just can't imagine if the roles were reversed and a man did all the things she did and instead of communicating with HIS FIANCE and talking to her he just gives up everything and sleep with someone else. how would everyone react???
NO ONE is perfect he made a mistake in telling his fiance how he actually felt, what happened after was not fair.
if something is wrong, it is wrong for everyone just because she is a woman , it doesn't give her the excuse to do whatever she wants, this is morally wrong.
(I'm in ep8 I don't know what is gonna happen later for NJS I just hope he meets someone better)

I liked the villain and that's weird.
Although liking villains has become a trend nowadays but I was always against it. in THIS drama I couldn't.
I was practically begging Lin Xirou in my head PLEASE do something bad so I can hate you but when the writer tried to show her as a villain it REALLY felt like it was a fake and forced plot. I honestly didn't like the hunters they were more like pretentious

I'm on EP 13, it REALLY feels like Lin Xirou genuinely cares for Yan Tuo. I really hope it would actually be like that. I like that

I KNOW forgiving mass murderers and villains and all kinda evil people is a TREND in c-dramas but this one is TOOOOO MUCH
two people almost ALL their lives KILLED, TORTURED and MASSACRED innocents, and they were forgiven JUST LIKE THAT? why? just because they are parents of ML and FML? this is beyond RIDICULOUS.
GOLDEN RULE in c-dramas:
ANYONE can getaway with anything as long as they are friends or relatives of the main leads.
beside that and a couple of loopholes I liked the plot generally I think it doesn't deserve 6.5, I've seen literal TRASH with a score higher than 8.5. this already shows how some people are on MDL and you can never really trust the scores here.
I'll give it a 10 not because it deserves a 10 (I think it's a 7.5) but because 6.5 is tooo low for it.

it's rare , but it's sooo good to see girls like you. thank you

First of all
Yes the drama talks about sexual assault and menopause and all that, it's good did I say anything against it? But this drama didn't throw men out of the window, like that they don't exist like other so called female centered plots. This drama didn't show men as evils and women as angels. THIS is the good parts of this drama that I'm talking about and I like.
Awareness of womens problems are important and I know that.
Second
In my dictionary a misogynist is someone who hates women.
You make fun of me when I talk about men being heard and frustrations of a man in a relationship, you talk about men as xys. NOW am I supposed to believe you don't hate men? So are you NOT a misandrist??

sadly , you're right :)

I don't know if those so called domineering women are in china or not, but from what I've seen online from Chinese people so far it doesn't look like they are few at all.
one more issue is that are dramas going to show us an equal dynamic in their roles between women and men or superiority of women over men? where every needs of women are fulfilled their emotions are heard and ML keeps sacrifices himself for her whereas men keep to themselves they're not heard , keep being misunderstood by FML or being like puppies around FML. when there is a sacrifice or a risk ahead the women are told but you have a career or a whole life ahead of you you can't throw it all away for a MAN! yet in the same situation the man with absolutely NO doubt will take the risk and do everything in his power to protect the girl she loves.
these examples may look cool to you but it's not for us
if women CAN'T give men the same or even near the same energy that men gives them, then they don't deserve that man. it's like that if the roles are reversed TOO, men should give the same energy back too.

if you don't respect others, you can't expect them to respect you either. and if what I'm talking about is a joke to you then you're no better than the misogynist that you despise

this drama has something that NO C-DRAMA EVER DONE:
1_ women admitting they're at fault
it's interesting that in c-dramas WHENEVER there is a problem in relationships the fault ALMOST ALWAYS is on men. and even if it's not, the man somehow apologizes for everything.
2_ actually listening to what men has to say.
in c-dramas women ALMOST NEVER listen. NO it's the mans job to listen and always be there for his GF or wife, the existence of women alone for men is an honor which they forever must be grateful for.
c-dramas nowadays are fairytales specially design for women who are looking for a prince charming.
I'm thankful for this drama that showed a little world of men too, it showed men can get hurt too, men can get frustrated in relationships too.

one bad mistake in c-dramas that is getting trend these days is in this drama too
Ling Bo had a suiter, he liked her but she liked him as a friend and ignores him. he had selfrespect and respect her decision and backs down. so far everything is good and ok.
the way mother of LB explain is NOT, she says you saw him as friend he understood and ignored you, we respect HIS decision what a pity
Ladys if you have a good suiter and you like him too, DO NOT play hard to get , life is not a fairy tale like this drama where whenever a woman wants she can find a good match. some of you may not believe it but men have pride and selfrespect too. in c-dramas where FML keeps rejecting ML and he keeps coming back that is not love, that is obsession.
don't throw your mans pride under your or others feet and THINK this is norm, like FMLs these days.
(P.S. I later found out about his actual motive in approaching her, but even if that is the case, my comment remains correct in a general, public sense.)

A c-drama where the woman is at fault in divorce??? Wow, This new! After watching so many c-dramas the unbreakable rule was in divorce ALWAYS men are at fault and women are the victim

the reason I started the drama was him, you don't know how much I was disappointed in him, thanks for clarifying that