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On When the Stars Gossip Jan 5, 2025
Cringe. At least we now know why it's been sitting in post production for a year - the reason we all feared but dared not ask.... is it a turd?
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Replying to lalawuuhaha Jan 5, 2025
Episode 2 and it's on fire!!!! Im so excited what's next!!ML and FL never disappoint. As usual the acting was…
Do you work for netflix?
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Replying to Sophia Jan 5, 2025
Are we going to have to put up with the cringy English speaking and English speaking actors the entire 16 episodes?…
It's so basic, so awkward, I'm frequently looking away from the screen in secondhand embarrassment. This is not made for us fans and not for South Korea either. It looks like it's going to end on 2% viewership in 7 weeks. Woeful.
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Replying to etoks21 Jan 5, 2025
"...the words indicate deception." lol And you know this because you are a full-time detective and forensic language…
Great work, the organisers took responsibility without ambiguity, gaslighting, etc. well done. If I was a 'quester' I'd be satisfied with that. Were you telling the truth? - it looks apologetic and truthful to me. Lusi, however, is hiding something, at best she's giving a portion of truth that supports her position.
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Lily Alice Jan 5, 2025
Lee Min-ho's doing a stellar job so far, I cried when he delivered those babies... but Ask The Stars what exactly? It's Netflixy. The multiple foreigners are all terrible actors. Fast forwarded back story, literally. Base humour. Korean staff at ground control look as uncomfortable and disengaged as usual in Netflix-controlled dramas. And the documentary-style intro to each episode is nauseating - I almost switched off episode 1 at the start, as if we need an introduction to space, besides which, there's credible doubt surrounding the first moon landing in 1969.
This should have been a piece of solid science fiction, set in the future - to lend artistic licence to the narrative.
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Replying to etoks21 Jan 5, 2025
"...the words indicate deception." lol And you know this because you are a full-time detective and forensic language…
If it was believable I don't care how long it is. I was insinuating the length of the statement was a red flag - taking into account the wording, I didn't say I didn't read it. I just don't believe her.
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Replying to HankoPanko999 Jan 4, 2025
Idk what jpop u listen to, but jpop is just as saturated with pitch correction. At the very least, what i listen…
Right, totally... I think we should try though - all the power's in the hands of the producers, they even alter melodies outright when they want to. At this rate, we won't need singers and they'll disappear, it's such a pity when we can't appreciate a great vocal performance. It takes away the value of talent.
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Replying to atom951 Jan 4, 2025
It's manipulative.
There was a story on MDL of a statement posted by her friend followed by a denial from the accused man, then this, where she alludes to it. Are you gaslighting me? Besides, what would a clinical doctor advise her to do in this situation, given her (clinical?) diagnosis? I think it's inadvisable to make any statements like this one. The situation makes her harder to employ, is it possible she's now trying to mitigate the fallout? Generally we have to deal with the hardships that go with our jobs, the high paid jobs tend to come with greater hardships.
One other thing - those that go through oppressive upbringings set out to over achieve later in life, they're driven relentlessly to prove themselves. You can't have it both ways.
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Replying to HankoPanko999 Jan 3, 2025
Idk what jpop u listen to, but jpop is just as saturated with pitch correction. At the very least, what i listen…
I know. Some sing live over pre-recorded and corrected tracks, and use it all the time in recordings definitely.
But... I'm talking about the national attitude towards it - the Japanese music industry, especially the artists, don't like it. If you watched the red and white contest few days ago, it's predominantly the live voices. Same on music TV shows. So j-pop groups that can't sing (a lot) use auto-tune or backing tracks live and pitch correction in post production. In Korea it's the opposite, I hear it almost all the time. A few months back I was raving about the fabulous voice of Park Eun-bin, taking it at face value - then on listening more carefully I was wrong. Then another, and another. You have to go back to singers like Baek Ji-young on the Secret Garden ost to hear a real voice. I'm generalising now. There are great singers whose performances are being spoilt by post production nerds that manipulate tracks with their eyes instead of using their ears - I'm quoting a guy called Fil from Wings of Pegasus on YouTube there. His channel is both great and devastating at the same time.
Edit - there's an exposé by Fil on a Korean (maybe) channel that claims that all its artists' voices are unaltered, he proves it's a lie, it's titled 'the biggest fraud in history' or something like that.

Edit2 .. whoops, the channel Fil exposes is actually Japanese!! It's called The First Take and claims not to use any corrections. So I can't account for the whole of Japan, but on TV music is rarely mimed or corrected when it claims to be live.
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Lily Alice Jan 3, 2025
May I Love You by Jae Yeon is pretty, more my taste, and Numb by Lim Yeon (although it uses well established harmonies, it's nice)

Edit, I'd like Korea to return to the natural voice, pitch-correction is distancing, makes it harder to connect. Lately I'm being drawn to Japanese music for this reason, it's real and extremely refreshing.
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Replying to atom951 Jan 3, 2025
It's manipulative.
She's using pathos to appeal to your emotions, instead of facts, there are no verifiable facts ("If someone,..." begins a statement so full of conditions she's wary of legal retaliation - and speaks on behalf of a group, instead of herself, to make her argument appear stronger).
Humble-brag ("I'm not as tolerant a person as I thought" she's informing you she's tolerant;
"I sincerely apologize for taking up public resources...", she's not sorry).
Inserting superfluous truth words like 'truly', 'sincerely' (why would we think she's not being truthful or sincere?).
Making vague points and omitting details not in her favour (such as "neurological issues").
Over-explaining.
Shutting down her critics ("only a doctor....").

Is this the statement of a person abused or a list of mitigating circumstances to explain her own behaviour?

All conflicts have 2 sides, I just wondered if anyone had heard the other side of it.
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Replying to atom951 Jan 3, 2025
Start your own website if you don't like it
I don't love AI subs, yet I maintain they're better than Viki's Actual Unntelligence. Any subtitle unrelated to necessary translation is graffiti. There's an art to subtitling, Viki doesn't have it, it has no taste, it makes me physically sick. Last year there was a drama that only Viki carried, so I briefly went back - and felt sickened immediately. Overt, collaborative displays of group ignorance are not acceptable, I don't watch Viki, I can't stand it - if that's ok with you, as long as I have your permission to choose what I want to watch.
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