"problematic" đđ€Łđ What's problematic would be Akira dead by suicide if Kanda hadn't come along.Your…
All Iâm reading here is that if you were hired as a tutor for a 13-year-old and that child came out to you, youâd think it was fine to start a sexual relationship with them. Obviously you donât see what this show did as problematic or disgusting because you are evidently a pedophile yourself. Nothing I can really say to that except I hope you get help. Itâs very rare to encounter someone so brazen about their desire to see children sexually abused. Trump on Epstein island level of perversion. I really hope you donât have regular contact with children.
"problematic" đđ€Łđ What's problematic would be Akira dead by suicide if Kanda hadn't come along.Your…
I am queer and I did live the experience of being a terrified closeted queer middle and high schooler. And thatâs exactly why I know that queer kids deserve better than adults who take advantage of their sadness, isolation and desperation to sexually abuse them. Sexual abuse isnât âthe icing on the cakeâ of an otherwise supportive mentor-mentee relationship. Itâs a horrifying experience that casts a shadow over the way that victims experience love and sex going forward into adulthood.
Itâs genuinely shocking that you - a person claiming to be a grown adult - are still going to sit here and say that you would have been grateful to be groomed and abused as a 14-year-old child. You really think that someone needs to be a ânaive church girlâ to believe that promoting sexual abuse of kids is wrong?
"problematic" đđ€Łđ What's problematic would be Akira dead by suicide if Kanda hadn't come along.Your…
Thereâs a pretty dramatic difference between writing about an abusive/immoral situation in an ambiguous way and writing an abuser as an unambiguously good person. This series did the latter. For the record, no it isnât good for adults to meet minors who are going through difficult things emotionally and exploit them for sex. Even if talking to them helps (or âsavesâ) them, forming a sexual relationship with them isnât necessary. Based on your replies to everyone here you seem quite young, so I just hope you will someday understand this.
Oh wow! I didnât even realize this was already airing! The current rating is a bit concerning đ Gelboys 1 is my favorite BL drama of all time, so I really hope I wonât be disappointed by the sequel.
Just thought about this drama and got pissed off again. Such a wasted opportunity. Iâve never seen a gay story so transparently ashamed to be a gay story.
Iâm almost done with episode 7 but honestly I donât even feel inclined to finish the series anymore even with only one episode left.
Iâm not a person who needs dramas to spell out the morality or immortality of situations the characters are in. Ambiguity and morally complicated characters are fine. But in this series the production seemed to go as far as to make excuses for Yoichiâs behavior at every turn. Heâs written as if heâs a good person who did good things for Akira and the story doesnât even remotely touch on the problematic nature of their relationship. They act like the central issue is the fact that their relationship was casual and not the fact that heâs an adult man who started a sexual relationship with a 14/15 year old middle school kid.
Itâs so unsettling whenever a production doesnât even seem to grasp why thatâs problematic.
Age of consent in Japan is 16, so all these pearl clutcher, virtue signalers just want something to complain about.…
Legality doesnât equal morality. A man in his 20s very obviously took advantage of a lonely, vulnerable *child* who confided in him. Thatâs sick whether itâs legal or not.
I donât hate this drama by any means, but I wonât lie, it confuses me how itâs so highly rated when the leads had basically zero chemistry. Did that not bother other people?
Not even exaggerating when I say that this drama fundamentally changed how I watch BL. It lowkey ruined me for many other series because it was so unique and amazing đ
The world of Thai BL is chock full of plot-driven stories where they cram so much action and drama into ~8-10 episodes of a series. I personally adore Gelboys because itâs the opposite of that.
The actual plot is extremely minimal. Just a bunch of queer boys in situationships going through life, going to school, being artsy and chronically online and getting their nails done. But the characterization is so rich and authentic! None of the characters are basic stereotypes or melodramatic caricatures. They feel like very real people who do real things that teenagers do.
It has some of the same general themes of other BLs - first love, miscommunication and misunderstandings, desire, heartbreak - but itâs written in a way where none of these themes feel like tropes.
I get what some people are saying about being bored with the lack of plot/action in the early episodes, but as someone who loves character-driven media more than anything, I loved it! Immediately my all-time favorite BL drama. I just hope season 2 manages to live up to the standard season 1 set!
This series has 8.6 rating - very high. Is it so good? I watched episode 1 - young kids painting their nails and…
Itâs a character-driven drama rather than a plot-driven drama, so if thatâs not your cup of tea, then maybe itâs not for you. Personally thatâs my favorite kind of media so I adored it all the way through. But the story does pick up a bit around episode 4 once you get out of the episodes that are fully centered around Fou4mod and Chian. So from there youâd probably enjoy it more!
Istg at first it was "they'll come around, just wait a bit, it's only the beginning", then it was "it's a slow…
This! Thank you!
Not to mention all the people saying things like âthey didnât need to kiss (or have any physical intimacy) for it to be gay! You all just wanted porn! This is realistic!â
As if gay teenagers in conservative societies arenât just as sex-motivated as straight teenagers and as if they donât crave physical intimacy just as much.
Because yeah, like you said, many teens are going to be way more invested in school and activities than in relationships in high school, but to the extent that they are interested, they absolutely do want to kiss and have sex. Itâs insulting that people are trying to pretend that this isnât an important factor in young gay peopleâs relationships just because âKorea is a homophobic society!!â
Honestly, I donât get why people are hating on this. Sure, there was no kiss. Sure, there were no explicit scenes.…
Because the writing was bad and the changes made to the characters and action in the manhwa were clearly intended to appease straight people so the result was an insult to queer viewers. Nobody thought it would be explicit. We just expected it to be well-written! But I know thatâs too much to ask - sorry!
Could someone pls recommend me some similar kbls?? it's my fav one but I couldn't find anything like it đ
Not exactly sure what about it you love and are looking to replicate, but Blueming is a good one if you havenât seen it. Itâs got a kind of similar enemies to lovers vibe and is also in a university setting. Itâs definitely one of my top 5 KBLs (along with Semantic Error of course)
feel like i'm the only one who both adores and detests seungwon's character. he's very calming to look at. but…
I agree with you, and itâs all down to the terrible writing on this series. His character and his relationship with Heesu could have been handled so much better to actually consistently build towards something instead of stagnating. But he was written to be blank-faced and emotionally unavailable throughout several episodes of the drama seemingly specifically because they were trying to drag it out to 10 episodes and had no idea what else to do with his character over that time đ
The way some ppl defending this show prefer very waterdowned version of gay romances with straightness front and…
Iâve been seeing so many people praising this drama that I have to assume are both straight and very ignorant of gay/queer people and our lives.
Itâs quite clear to me that many creative decisions in this drama were made with the goal of making straight people comfortable, so I guess on that front it was a success! So many ignorant straight people love this trash lmao
I know this was based on a manhwa, but did anybody else feel like they couldâve expanded on some things and…
I honestly donât even think it needed to be longer. I just think they didnât utilize the time they had well enough. They could have cut out so much (the blackmail texter, the two older sistersâ relationship drama, the carrot juice girl, etc.) and then used that time on other subplots to make them more interesting. Instead we got about 7 superficial subplots when we could have just had 2 or 3 more deep and well-integrated subplots.
Itâs genuinely shocking that you - a person claiming to be a grown adult - are still going to sit here and say that you would have been grateful to be groomed and abused as a 14-year-old child. You really think that someone needs to be a ânaive church girlâ to believe that promoting sexual abuse of kids is wrong?
Iâm not a person who needs dramas to spell out the morality or immortality of situations the characters are in. Ambiguity and morally complicated characters are fine. But in this series the production seemed to go as far as to make excuses for Yoichiâs behavior at every turn. Heâs written as if heâs a good person who did good things for Akira and the story doesnât even remotely touch on the problematic nature of their relationship. They act like the central issue is the fact that their relationship was casual and not the fact that heâs an adult man who started a sexual relationship with a 14/15 year old middle school kid.
Itâs so unsettling whenever a production doesnât even seem to grasp why thatâs problematic.
The actual plot is extremely minimal. Just a bunch of queer boys in situationships going through life, going to school, being artsy and chronically online and getting their nails done. But the characterization is so rich and authentic! None of the characters are basic stereotypes or melodramatic caricatures. They feel like very real people who do real things that teenagers do.
It has some of the same general themes of other BLs - first love, miscommunication and misunderstandings, desire, heartbreak - but itâs written in a way where none of these themes feel like tropes.
The style is so refreshing. Like a true cinĂ©ma vĂ©ritĂ© - which is something that I never expected to see in the landscape of Thai BL! Itâs genuinely groundbreaking and I think/hope that it will be a landmark piece that progresses the genre as a whole going forward.
I get what some people are saying about being bored with the lack of plot/action in the early episodes, but as someone who loves character-driven media more than anything, I loved it! Immediately my all-time favorite BL drama. I just hope season 2 manages to live up to the standard season 1 set!
I highly recommend Gelboys for an amazing Thai BL! Itâs a first of its kind in the genre - cinĂ©ma vĂ©ritĂ© style and so modern and realistic in themes and content.
I Told Sunset About You and I Promised You The Moon are from the same filmmaker/production team and have incredible production value as well.
Not to mention all the people saying things like âthey didnât need to kiss (or have any physical intimacy) for it to be gay! You all just wanted porn! This is realistic!â
As if gay teenagers in conservative societies arenât just as sex-motivated as straight teenagers and as if they donât crave physical intimacy just as much.
Because yeah, like you said, many teens are going to be way more invested in school and activities than in relationships in high school, but to the extent that they are interested, they absolutely do want to kiss and have sex. Itâs insulting that people are trying to pretend that this isnât an important factor in young gay peopleâs relationships just because âKorea is a homophobic society!!â
Itâs quite clear to me that many creative decisions in this drama were made with the goal of making straight people comfortable, so I guess on that front it was a success! So many ignorant straight people love this trash lmao