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Not Grandma grinning like a Cheshire Cat listening at the door!!!! She's the cutest grandma I think I've seen in any show - if something truly bad happened to her, I'mma riot

I am not a crier. At. All. Like, I hate it. But Phoom and Vicha's story had tears just rolling uncontrollably down my face. This is my favorite episode by far, and probs my favorite ForceBook pairing yet. Then I went from tears to full on gasping at the end. Maybe this means we'll start to see Uncle Kid and Attorney Yai start getting their comeuppance. I hope. 🙏

Also, looking at Kan after this episode - she absolutely has ulterior motives against Home's family. Which was probably evident after she went snooping and found that one file when Uncle Kid found her, I just didn't realize then. They mentioned old cases and potential new lawsuits as a result of Home and Peach's past accident - I'm thinking she's a family member of one of those old cases... Maybe...

OK, you don't seem to like Home because he is the perpetrator. Completely fair. Take him out of the equation, then. What Kan did was self righteous because she did it without thought of the victim's feelings. If she actually wanted justice for the victim, she should have gone to Peach herself, told him the truth, and offered to help him moving forward - be that suing the sh!t out of Home and his family, or just helping him cope as a friend. Instead she went straight to the media, and now Peach's greatest trauma is being hashed out on a national stage. He is justifiably devastated, and is being forced to see his trauma being viewed and discussed by strangers - right after he had just started to heal and move on, so now he is reliving the trauma rather than healing from the trauma. She wanted the truth to come out, which is a correct desire, but she went about it wrong. She's more interested in exposing the cover up than helping the victim, and that makes it more of a selfish act to me rather than a compassionate one. But again, it's a TV show. I'm not trying to get into a debate/fight/conflict about a TV show. I was just trying to give some insight into why people were so up in arms about what she did. Kan is a very stoic and static character (so far, at least), so it's only natural that people resonate with Home and Peach more - they're more developed characters with more interesting personalities.

I think the main reason people are so upset that Kan did it the way she did was because it prevented Home from being able to confess himself first. He was ready with "forgive me" pancakes when he was hit with the news that it had been leaked and Peach found out in a way that was not from Home. Which also makes it doubly hard for Peach because he thinks Home knew all along that he was the perpetrator in the case, when in reality Home only discovered it in the previous episode. I, for one, do think it needed to come to light, yes. It's just the timing that Home didn't get to be the one to tell Peach. I wish it had been Kan giving Home an ultimatum of, "I know the truth, and if you don't tell Peach by X time, I will tell everyone." Because in the end, the way Kan did it also genuinely hurt Peach and Pang, as well as Home. I don't think anyone in the comments saying they hate Kan for what she did is saying they don't want the truth to come out, it's just that she prevented Home from being able to talk to Peach personally.

All that being said, it's also just a TV show that needed a big dramatic event to keep the show moving forward since we're only at the half way point lol. Overall, the real villains are Uncle Kid and Attorney Yai who coerced Home to leave the scene when it actually happened, and then covered it up.

Kan out here blowing everything up, damn. I do think she thought Home wouldn't be allowed to say anything once she heard he wanted to talk to his family, though. She sees more of the duplicitous nature of Uncle Kid and Attorney Yai than Home does, so you just know they would have found a way to get Home to not say anything to Peach. I mean, they shut everything up when the accident happened to begin with, of course they're going to do the same when Home wants to confess. While I think Home should have had the opportunity to confess first, I can see why Kan did it. Even if it was a bit skeevy of her....

You know, it's entirely possible to see a name you don't care for and just say, "huh. I don't like that." and leave it at that without denigrating someone's name - chosen by them or otherwise - and cultural backgrounds.

You also mentioned Bible - his father chose that name for him because he is devout and knew that if he named his child that it would be a constant reminder to read the bible and be faithful.

So, yes, there is usually a reason behind Thai nicknames. A story. A purpose. Just because you don't know or like it, doesn't mean it has no significance to that person and/or their family. Being kind does take work, but it's not *that* difficult.

When Sun's mother was walking them down the stairs to see the painting, you'll never convince me the railing of those stairs is not just a bunch of d!cks 🤣 I haven't cackled this hard about something in a hot minute, and I need that railing in my house someday!

I did! It's a little strange to me because I've heard it in a couple other show as well. I'm wondering if it has to do with there not being a copyright on it so they don't have to pay to use it...?

So I really enjoyed this show. It's just a soft story of friends and lovers without too many complications throughout. I like that it's straightforward and simple. Simple, to me, is not boring, just fluffy - and I am a sucker for fluff. (Though, major shout out to Satang for that scene when Q finds out Toey is Milk Frappe Boy and cries so devastatingly hard - that was some top tier acting, and my heart broke for him.)

My main issue is the art. I was an art major and am an artist, and the way they handled the supplies and finished "artworks" was just so bad lol. No way any art student is hauling a massive canvas around campus, much less too and from home and in cars and such. Canvas is heavy. And expensive. I don't know anyone who would have moved their canvas out from the studio where accidents could happen. I do understand that was the whole initial catalyst for Peem and Phum to meet and be at odds, but still. And leaving your art supplies sitting somewhere outside while you go to lunch?!?! Yeah right! Supplies are hella expensive - no one is going to leave their stuff lying around. Not to mention the obvious artworks just being prints on canvas and then stretched so badly you can see the wood slats from the front. Why, oh why, did they not just go to some local universities and say, "Hey, we're doing a show about art students, would you be willing to have some of your students make some works to be displayed and we'll give them credits and they can list it on their resume?" That would have been so much better *le sigh*

I think we also tend to forgot he literally *just* turned 21 a couple weeks ago. He's still young, and may not be super experienced. It's also very likely he was directed how to kiss by the acting coach and director since NLMG was not like that to my recollection. Actors get to choose certain things, but directors often make them adjust to their vision instead. And if it was discussed during workshops and such how the director and acting coach wanted it to be, that's how they played it.

I swear if we don't get an Our Skyy 3 with some additional Yoryak and Wandee, I'mma riot lol.

Was this a perfect show? No, of course not. There were little plot holes and some rushing through here and there, but it is still so good and so well done. I adore that real world issues were brought up and discussed (Thailand's new marriage equality, trauma and healing, vaccine importance, and different forms of sexuality), as well as being intermingled with the story in a way that made it accessible and understandable. I love the chemistry between Great and Inn. I love that they root for each other to succeed so deeply. I just really loved this show as a whole. It's just sweet and fluffy enough without being over the top or cringey. This show made smile so much, it's easy to overlook minor issues. Definitely rewatchable, and definitely one of my favorites 🥰

OK, I'mma need them to delve into the dreams more to give some deeper plot to this as a whole. I love fluff, but this episode was a bit of filler fluff and definitely lacking. It had its high points, but there weren't many. And Khun Dad is the worst nickname he could possibly have come up with! Nicknames should be organic in nature, not forced lol. "Hey, Mister Dad, I'll see you after work!" Blech. And Nu-Lin is not much better - especially since it's something he has already been called and Nu is kind of like kid or child. Mister Dad and Kid Lin. Barf-o-rama to that weird father/child sounding kink...

I see so many people commenting not to watch past episode 9 because the last couple episodes ruin a beautiful story. To me, that's crap lol. Life is messy and hard and absolutely imperfect, so for a series to show that imperfection and heartbreak before reconciliation, makes it feel more real to me. This story should be watched in it's entirety, not because it has a happy ending, but because it shows the struggles and growth before finding the happy ending. It's also infinitely better watching the last few episodes back to back rather than having to wait a week in between - I feel like the waiting is where people got butthurt. But this story, this whole story, is beautiful and one of my absolute favorites.

I watched the episode this morning, then in the afternoon I was helping my mother look for costume jewelry for an event she's going to - and lo and behold! the exact "antique" necklace Sun took Lin into the secret room to see was on Temu for like $14 USD 🤣 I could not stop cackling about it!

I do think this is cute, despite the obvious flaws of mediocre dialogue and such. It's just fluffy enough, though, to keep me coming back and enjoying it. I'm a sucker for fluff, and this is Fluff+. I'm hoping they'll dive more into these mysterious dreams to give a little more umph to the show as a whole. We're only a couple episodes in, so I know more is to come, I just hope it stays fluffy 🥰

I laughed so hard when I saw that one! It's become a game among all the Thai shows I watch to see what the most ridiculous English t-shirts are! Pat's "Baseball Mom" in Bad Buddy and Nuer's "Texas, where farting is a competitive sport" from Cutie Pie 2 You are my top favs 🤣

Do you have the link to the interview or quote from the author? I'm curious to read it. And I get the author said that, but, honestly, I like the way my brain worked it out better 😂 Mostly just because it makes more sense - in as much as any of this choas of a show can make sense lol. At least to me. It may be a translation thing, but the words Lady Lu said at the end are, "The blue substance comes from the power of black stone. Once you break the black stone, the blue substance inside will appear. But if you damage the black stone, blue substance will also forever be gone." If the stone was damaged by Tai for him to get to Kram in World 1, how can the blue substance shine in World 1 for their second Ash Exchange since Lady Lu said it would forever be gone if the stone was damaged? Everything was so convoluted in general in the show, my brain needs this one piece to make sense 😅 Is the name of the novel the same as the show? Do you know if there's a decent translation of it? Do you know if the novel author had any say or input in the screenwriting of the show? Cause I know sometimes showrunners do things differently than the books lol. I'm just curious because I didn't even know there was a novel that it was based on, so if you have any of that info, I'd be greatly appreciative 😊

Lol I feel like this was pretty convoluted script across the board. I enjoyed it - as purely a fluff show, because it can't be taken without several grains of salt.
1. Most Thai dramas will film the trailer separately and earlier than actual filming, or even scriptwriting, so not all shots from the trailer are in the final product. So, no, the scene with the waterfall did not happen in the final show.
2. I think they ended up in World 2 (Tai's world) because World 1 Tai was a wanted criminal, and because travel from World 2 to World 1 is impossible since Tai broke the stone in World 2, but that doesn't mean the stone in World 1 was broken. So it's like a one way door now instead of a back and forth. And it's been 10 years by the end, and if Phupa was remembering World 1 Phupa's memories of loving Kram, it was probably easier to sever ties so he could move on with Run. Not to mention Tai and Kram just live in the woods and Phupa lives in the city and is a business man - totally different life paths.
3. Kram being sad about World 1 Tai's death is understandable because he was the last link to *his* Tai.
4. Poop fruit hunting was definitely filler for time lmao.
5. The snake bite was sloppy writing for sure - rushed and the easy route. And yeah, I think he did leave his dad. Which, again, sloppy writing since his dad was the "reason" he decided to go back to his world to begin with smh.
6. I'm super disappointed in how they played out WayuJao. It was so sudden and then just "and then they were together forever" - just on the back burner.
7. A valid and frustrating question that I have no answer to, unfortunately 😑

I honestly think they were able to go back to World 2. Tai broke the stone in World 2, but that doesn't mean the stone was broken in World 1. So the blue light during their second Ash Exchange happened, they jumped, and ended up in World 2 - likely specifically because World 1 Tai was a wanted criminal. So travel from World 1 to World 2 is possible, but because Tai broke the stone in World 2 there's no way back again. So it's like a one way door now instead of a back and forth. Otherwise, how would the blue light have happened in World 1? I don't think the black stone would have emitted the blue light without the possibility of travel between the two worlds. And I totally agree that Max and Nat deserve better scripted projects. I really enjoy them both, but their projects just seem to be lackluster, unfortunately.

So I think everything you said was correct, but I think they ended up in World 2. The connection *from* World 2 to World 1 was destroyed when Tai broke it to get to Kram again in World 1, but the stone in World 1 was not broken, so travel from World 1 to World 2 is possible, but travel back from World 2 to World 1 is no longer possible. Hence why the blue light happened again during their second Ash Exchange in World 1. And since Tai in World 1 was a wanted criminal, it would only make sense that Tai from World 2 does not stay in World 1.

I think Phupa not seeing Kram and Tai again would be simply because they didn't tell him they came back. Severing ties would be easier, especially for Phupa who started having World 1 Phupa's memories of loving Kram. That or they're just so lovey dovey obsessed with each other they just never went to visit Phupa anymore and lost touch over the 10 years lol. Wouldn't surprise me 😂

I don't know if he actually knows about the trafficking part, though. He just says, "I told you not to get involved in Tony's business," and not to worry because Red Racing will win, but with only him as the champion. Tony *just* took over Red Racing - do we really think he's gonna let some newb who only cares about racing cars and being the champion into the inner workings of his illegal business? Winner knows Tony does shady sh!t, obviously, but how deep does his knowledge go? And yes, there were kids at the place where Kim was being held, but they're not restrained, just guarded, so it's entirely possible he's unaware. Because he's oblivious and dumb in his desire to be better than Babe. So, yes, I think he knows there's illegal activity, but I'm not convinced he knows that Tony is raising and selling kids like cattle...