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On Rebirth Apr 27, 2026
Title Rebirth
Douban remains at 3. The number of reviewers increases, but the percentage stays the same. It looks very suspicious to me. Still 89.1% disliked or hated it. https://movie.douban.com/subject/36809858/

Douban score 3.0
22860 revieweers

5 stars 3.6%
4 stars 2.5%
3 stars 4.7%
2 stars 19.3%
1 star 69.8%

Meanwhile, the MDL rating decreases each day.
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Replying to Zizz Apr 27, 2026
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6 7 ...dayum
6.6 and dropping rapidly
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Replying to Lidia Apr 27, 2026
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It's 6.7 now if you can believe it. Still 3.0 on Douban though.
I'm not sure how they update o. Douban; the % doesn't change, only the number of reviewers... strange.
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Replying to wookipoo13 Apr 24, 2026
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what, why , sad ending ?
Chu Qiao and Zhuge Hue become the king and queen of a northern kingdom in the mountains. There is no slavery. They have two children and one adopted child from Li Ce. The second child of Li Ce is raised as the future emperor with strong support from Chu Qiao. It takes some time before they live together. They marry after they become a couple. (meaning they had sex before they married). Their sex life is very happy (lol) and Zhuge Yue never takes a concubine or another wife.

So indeed happy ending for them.

Yan Cun remains alone in his huge palace. He's an emperor. He married and has an empress he doesn't care at all, and he also has hundreds of concubines, many of whom look very much like Chu Qiao physically (sleep with them once and trash away). He ends up lonely, with mixed feelings of regret for his choices that drove Chu Qiao away, but he also understands that his desire for power, revenge, and jealousy took precedence. He never loved anyone else but her. His love was selfish and possessive. He placed her on a pedestal. They only ever shared one memorable, unique kiss. Some people see it as obsessive, but I see it differently. I saw a man who lost his soul after the slaughter of his family, and only Chu Qiao was his savior. His lieutenants, jealous of Chu Qiao, fed him lies, and his jealousy took over… pushing her away. She lived 2 years alone in yanbei and when her own army was in trouble because of Yan Xun, she left yanbei and never return.

All the events in PA and Rebirth are inspired by the novel, reflecting common practice. They borrow elements, and the scriptwriter adapts them for each celebrity cast in the dramas. What they notably failed to do in Rebirth was to show how emotionally broken Chu Qiao was when she left Yan Xun for good. She loved him as her first love, remained faithful and loyal, but after their escape to Yanbei, he lost his humanity and turned his genuine love into possession. He also got jealous when she gained popularity and respect from his army (except his closed lieutenants who had an agenda). The more he pushed her away with his actions and love, the more he became a selfish tyrant. He was a broken man. Zhuge Yue fell for her because she was his favorite main servant. In the novel, he never taught her martial arts, but love developed later. When she left his house, she was about 9 or 10. She stayed confined with Yan Xun for 8 years, then they escaped to Yanbei. That age difference makes both dramas quite different, as Zhuge Yue waited 10 years before confessing his love.

PA incorporated supernatural elements. Rebirth included fabricated events and storylines. PA was supposed to have a second season and not end with a bittersweet ending. Rebirth offered no satisfaction in the romance and sad, unsatisfying ending, killing both FL and ML.

They completely missed the mark with the rebirth project—wrong casting, wrong scriptwriter, wrong director, wrong narrative. The PA audience expected logical continuity after the lake ending, with romance, a happy ending, and genuine chemistry between the leads. Instead, they cast a 17-year-old and a lead who is a decade older, with only a few scenes as a young teen in PA that probably took just two days to film. Their choice wasn't based on her talent but rather her connection to Zhao Lying and PA. ML was hired for his popularity, and Yan Xun was cast based on his looks. There was absolutely zero chemistry between them.
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Replying to WM Apr 24, 2026
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Do you remember or just know about any other highly awaited show ending on Douban below 4.0? Or at least 5.0?
That will be interesting to revisit Douban for this show in a couple of months.
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Replying to 15949042 Apr 24, 2026
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This drama had quite the potential but somehow just lacked something throughout the whole series but I liked the…
Lacks everything… romance, chemistry, a happy ending, cast (basically casting another FL), a script that is very different from PA (sect, spider cold powers, no empress, no sense). So it is NOT a sequel at all. Everything went wrong with this series…
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Replying to LindarosaMeiarosa Apr 24, 2026
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A 3.0 rating on Douban for a high-budget drama with so much promotion is honestly shocking—and not in a good…
The most wow part is adding up the percentage...

Near 90% of 20,808 reviewers (as of 2026.04.24) gave it a 1-star rating (69.8%), and 2 stars (19.3%)

90% disliked or hated it... It is a complete disaster
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Replying to CostumeHEA Apr 24, 2026
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From 3.2 to 3.0…Douban score 3.019,880 revewers5 stars 3.6%4 stars 2.5%3 stars 4.7%2 stars 19.3%1 star 69.8%https://movie.douban.com/subject/36809858/
Same score 3.0

20808人评价 (1000 increase since yesterday 19,880)

5星 3.6%….. 746
4星 2.5%….. 520
3星 4.7%….. 977
2星 19.3%….. 4015
1星 69.8% ….. 14524

No change yet in percentage, still close to 70% voted 1 star. This adds up to 89.1% dissatisfied (1 star and 2 stars), 4.7% find it average, and 6.1% liked or loved it.

Nearly 90% of 20,808 disliked or hated it. This is a major flop.
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Replying to Nuttika Apr 24, 2026
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And it has a chance to be more lower. It deserve it.
70% voted 1 star. That is a lot. 13,916 out of 19,880…
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Replying to Blackberry Apr 24, 2026
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Seeing the 3.2 rating on Douban with over 17,000+ ratings can really feel overwhelming at first, especially when…
Indeed, it's okay to have differing opinions and enjoy a drama even if the consensus is negative. Currently, Douban gives it a rating of 3.0 with 19,880 reviewers, and I wouldn't be surprised if it drops to 2.8 or lower.

The drama has too many issues, which the Asian audience is well aware of. I believe most viewers never watched Princess Agents before the first two episodes. Many on this forum repeatedly ask if they need to watch PA, which is no coincidence.

The story has been significantly altered from the novel, making it, in my opinion, a completely different story. The lack of romance also likely contributes to the low ratings, and the romance depicted in the series is often twisted or bittersweet.

Even on MDL, the rating has dropped from 7.5 to 7.4 based on 643 reviews, compared to Douban's 19,880. It's easier to find 320 fans than 9940. Pursuit of Jade has a 6.4 rating on Douban. The same people watch costume dramas. I always thought Douban was very harsh on ratings. However, they rarely lie. If the rating is under 5… then the drama has major issues. MDL is, and never was, relevant to me (sasaengs are everywhere lol).

The magic just didn’t work for me. Issues with the cast, script, directing, lack of chemistry, and romance. The scenes had too much screen time in some moments and not enough in others. The chemistry between the leads makes all the difference, but here it felt like they barely even said “hello” outside the set. It was a cold flat unconvincing bunch of actors and actresses forced to interact with each other. Maybe some are great in other dramas and good for them, but not here.

I will remember the name of the director and scriptwriter... so I won't watch another series by them anytime soon.

The only positive aspect I see are some secondary characters, who were well cast to showcase their acting skills.
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Replying to CostumeHEA Apr 22, 2026
Title Rebirth Spoiler
Still 3.2 on douban https://movie.douban.com/subject/36809858/Over 18, 246 rated the dramaHere are some reviews…
This is the best review I've read so far. Bear with the English translation (Google).


Brothers and sisters, it's been nine years. Nine years! From "Laoyu Wenyue" to the whole network's rotten stalk, from the ice lake crying to insomnia, we old fans are like widows looking forward to the sequel to let out that evil anger, just like widows looking forward to their husbands coming home. What about the result? As soon as the dual platform of iQIYI Tencent Video was launched on April 8, 2026, "Ice Lake Rebirth" directly pressed us into the ice lake and made up for it again - this is not rebirth, this is ** collective social death.

Let's talk about the casting first. Is this a collective cerebral hemorrhage for the crew? Huang Yangtian Tiantian plays Chu Qiao? Please, her baby fat little round face, always staring at the white and cute expression, wearing beautiful military armor looks like a primary school student who sneaks on her mother's high heels to participate in the kindergarten sports meeting. The original Zhao Liying version of Chu Qiao is the female god of war who climbed up from the bottom, and her eyes are full of blood, tears and murderous spirit; what about her? The whole process was "the baby was wronged but the baby didn't say it". After losing his memory, he was coaxed by Yan Xun to play the queen. Do you really believe it? When I woke up in episode 1, I laughed directly: This is not a female general with amnesia. It is obviously a little Internet celebrity who is in love who is shooting a vlog. Yan Xun (played by Zhang Kangle) was prepared for her, and she blinked her eyes as "dejà vu". Cheng Yuan tried her several times and still looked innocent - his acting skills were all based on staring and roaring, and her emotions were zero. Netizens called "Baby General" and "Earring Sister". It's really not black, it's true. Huang Yangtian's previous controversy has not yet disappeared. The crew still insists on her as the heroine. If she can't support her, she relies on filters and close-ups? Director Li Haojiji, are you filming the ancient costume "Sweet Pet"?

Li Yunrui's role as Zhuge Yue (formerly Yu Wenyue) was originally the only life-saving straw in the whole play. The shape of war damage and the sense of broken snow are indeed interesting. In the passages of Episode 4, saving people in the cave and Secretly Sending "Hua Tuo Qiushui" in Episode 5, the deep affection is finally a little original. What a pity? In the first 9 episodes, he had very few scenes. Most of the time, he wore a mask as a mute "Moon Seven", and ran away with poisonous hair. He was simply a tool man + bodyguard. Is it in the same frame as Huang Yangtian Tian? The age difference of 11 years is not a problem. The problem is that the chemistry is zero, and the uncle and nephew are almost the same. When Chu Qiao was kidnapped, hung upside down, and forced to kill each other by Chun'er, their interaction was all about their eyes - pulling my goosebumps. The original "Xingyue CP" is a turbulent era to kill the enemy side by side. What about this version? One is amnesia, the other is poisoned as a shadow, forcibly sadistic love routine, and the heroine is turned into a love brain tool.

The plot is even more outrageous. The document is clearly written: After the Battle of Ice Lake, Chu Qiao lost his memory and was saved by Yan Xun. Episode 1 directly jumped for 3 months + Yan Xun brainwashing, Episode 2 Chun'er poisoned and kidnapped, Episode 3 wedding assassination + Yanqi was used, Episode 4 Mysterious Man (Zhuge Yue) saved people + Xueshang Blood Poison Trading... The first 9 episodes were full of information. , but the rhythm is as bad as an unedited squir. At least one-third of the first episode is spent recalling the original version. Director, are you afraid that the audience will not remember "The Biography of Chu Qiao"? Or are you afraid that the new audience can't understand it? The fighting scene is all slow-motion stacking Luohan, and the ice lake battle is like a kindergarten skating competition; what about the power line? Yan Xun was inexplicably blackened. Poor soldiers and civil unrest all relied on letting Zhao Che go. Bian Tang's line was even more of palace fighting + male pet + tentative ancient dolls. Zhan Ziyu, Luo Wang and Empress Bian took turns to check their household registrations. Chu Qiaofu pretended to be a princess, which made me embarrassed. In the original work "11 Agent Concubines", Chu Qiao is the iron-blooded heroine of revenge + calming down. This version is directly changed to the sweet pet template of "being saved by a man after amnesia, and finally secretly guarded by Zhuge Yue". Yan Xun changed from wolf ambition to crazy criticism, and Chu Qiao changed from the leader of the beautiful army to a weak little flower who needed "Hua Tuo Qiushui" to cure his eyes - is this called rebirth? It's called "consumption sentiment"!

What's more disgusting is those so-called "advanced" lenses. Chun'er was humiliated, Chu Qiao was hung upside down, and his arm was scratched... The director's male perspective was full, close-up + blower + slow motion, shooting the female pain into a visual feast. The original "The Legend of Chu Qiao" is bloody. This version of the abuse makes people physiologically uncomfortable. It is also called "Real Qinghai minus 20 degrees shooting". The picture is good-looking, but the plot is empty, the editing is sparse, and there are a lot of logical bugs (Cheng Yuan sometimes loyal dogs stabs the back, and He Lianling provokes like AI-generated branch lines). This is not a movie-level production, but an assembly line ancient doll cover.

What has been waiting for nine years is not a continuation of Yi Nanping, but a bad film of Dog Tail. Producer Zhang Meng cried and begged for forgiveness live? Don't cry. Let's change the heroine, rewrite the script, and change the director to a storyteller. Yan Xun, you continue to blacken, Chu Qiao, you continue to lose your memory, and Zhuge Yue, you continue to wear a mask as a shadow - we old fans, just want to say: Don't be reborn in the ice lake, let Yu Wenyue continue to soak at the bottom of the lake, at least in the memory, he is still the cold and bearant general.

After chasing episode 9, I gave up. It's not that I don't love Chu Qiao, but that this drama is not worthy. After complaining, it's purely a personal poisonous tongue. Welcome to sit down. Douban's one-star is given to all the audience who still have fantasies - wake up, there is only a chicken feather left after the killing of feelings
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On Rebirth Apr 22, 2026
Title Rebirth
Still 3.2 on douban
https://movie.douban.com/subject/36809858/

Over 18, 246 rated the drama
Here are some reviews (Chinese viewers, google translation)
Note….. No mention of the age gap so the low rating is not about this

****

It's like two male protagonists with a child, and it's guilty to knock on anyone... Forget about the fake set, the new armor... Since it's a sequel, not a prequel, shouldn't the character also be a little longer? Zhuge Yueshu is too angry, Yan Xun's belly is not strong enough, and every major character of Zhen Equality is not as good as the original.
****
Too many scenes of the hero have been deleted. Nowadays, many dramas are really more and more crooked. Obviously, they have a good subject and good actors, but they have to take the most stupid path:

In order to support the heroine, promote the supporting actor, and promote the supporting role, crazily cut out the hero's scene, cut off the hero's highlight, disrupt the main logic, and dismantle a good story.

It is said that the heroine and the group portrait is outstanding, but in fact, it sacrifices the texture of the whole play to force the sense of existence of a few people.

What about the result? The main line collapsed, the character setting was broken, and the audience could not watch it any longer. The play fell silently. In the end, no one picked it up, leaving only a semi-finished product with a bad ending.

This is not how the traffic is used, and the actors are not consumed like this. The core of a drama is always the story and characters, not who has more scenes and whose camera is beautiful. Relying on the plot of suppressing the hero, cutting the main line, and feeding the audience's garbage plot will only make the drama worse and worse, and push the audience further and further away. A drama that can really be popular and stand up is never based on "eccentricity", but on fairness, completeness and worthy of the audience's creation.

Don't use traffic as a tool anymore, and don't destroy the story and complete selfishness, otherwise what will be destroyed in the end will only be the trust of the whole industry
****
Garbage plot

Martial arts power plot, all go to love, not to mention anything else, just say that the opening plot can't be watched at all. Xiaolin is really pitiful. The hero and heroine have no sense of CP, not to mention, the setting of the plot can't be watched at all. The heroine: 'If you dare to kill him, I will die with him.' I'm really convinced. What was Chu Qiao before? What's it? Hasn't she seen it? Or is it a problem of screenwriter and director? Anyway, the garbage plot can't be popular. I feel that if there is more than 4 points, it's a sailor
****
Well, in fact, the original plot was okay. There was a base of the original novel, and 1 star was given to the plot, but it was filmed into a piece of 💩 by the director. It was really bad. Many places filmed by the director were inexplicably uncomfortable. It's crazy. The director himself doesn't understand what we want to see. How to present this drama well? What does it mean that smoky horse riding over Chun'er's head? What the hell? And is there too much slow-motion scene in the play? Besides, I feel that Chun'er in this film has become a vicious supporting actress, which is very different from Chu Qiao's biography. The feeling between Yan Xun and Chun'er has not been filmed. My expression ability is limited and I can't say clearly.

And the hero and heroine really have no sense of cp. It's strange for the two of them to stand together.

The casting failed, and the heroine is like an AI. This heroine can't stand the drama, but it's hard to imagine why so many people like her in the play, and I can't see how strong she is. She deserves to be liked by so many people. All episodes are reading lines. I really feel that she can be replaced by AI. It's just that there is no drama in the eyes, staring dryly.

Compared with Sister Zhao's eyes, there is more sense of story in her eyes, which does show that feeling, because I like Chu Qiao.

In addition, not only the casting of the heroine is not good, but also the casting of other characters is not as good as Chu Qiao's biography. Compared with Lin Xincheng, Li Yunrui is less fierce than Yu Wenyue's fierceness, and can only see a sense of brokenness, so I played the face of Chu Qiao's biography when I watched this play
***
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Replying to CostumeHEA Apr 22, 2026
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Douban rating….. 3.2https://movie.douban.com/subject/36809858/Douban score 3.217,423 people commented5 stars…
820 additional voters… no change in rating, still 3.2

18,243 people

5 stars 4.0%
4 stars 2.5%
3 stars 6.6%
2 stars 24.2%
1 star 62.6%
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Replying to LeiCastrudez Apr 22, 2026
Title Rebirth
That's why the title is Rebirth, after the frozen lake battle, they got reborn ( figuratively okay, not literally…
She played just a few scenes on top of a hill, that took probably 2 days max to shoot. Is that how you praise an actress for understanding her character better than anyone else? She probably never met the crew at that time. Come on... Thanks for the laugh here 🤣🤣
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Replying to MadelineMaureen Apr 20, 2026
Title Rebirth
okay Chu Qiao went from slave->General->Queen of Yanbei->Empress Dowager of Biantang->Queen of XimengAnd…
The main issue was definitely casting her, as she doesn’t suit this role at all (as many said before, she looks like a young teenager trying to wear mommy clothes). The second major problem was trying to make a sequel without revising the entire storyline, which could have given us more time to connect with the characters. The third problem was the lack of chemistry among the main cast. The fourth issue involved adding unnecessary secondary characters. The fifth problem was ignoring the fact that, in TV dramas, love stories should come first. All the female audience just wants to be wowed by couples so they can relate to the female lead. The sixth issue is the disorganized script and direction, with a focus on certain scenes to give screen time to some actors and actresses rather than spending enough time on others.

The script is a mess. The casting is poor (individually probably okay, but definitely not together). The story isn't as engaging as it should be. It's a completely flat drama.
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