Ep22 : who setup ML ... seems someone also targeted him along with Gu family and grand secretary... is it his teacher , because he found he likesFL and because he rejected his niece he set him up also in this case.... ofcourse , his fellow disciples of his teacher seem to be fully involved in this
Concubine Song , her daugther and her Nanny consider minor things happening to them as great injustices. But they never think what they did to FL (sending her off when just a month old) , or trying to kil her mother as anything at all. injustices can happen to only them . Their atrocities doesnt matter , and doesnt allow any one to consider them either and cry victim if any one blames them
so FL's mother didnt visit her at all in all those years? werent wives allowed to visit their parents in those era? No one from FL's family - parents , brother visited? how cruel!
FL's mother should have lived for the sake of her 2 kids..if not for her mother and extended family. an indifferent husband should not have mattered more than her children and her maternal family..she left so many loved ones behind in sadness with her death . .. how could 1 person trump and push you to death over so many others that loved you.... she should have stayed back , fought for her daughter, given some good advices to her son.. should not have saddened her mother with her death.. couldn't she tolerate little blame (though undeserving) from her husband.. when he is known to her as a useless person
she owed FL so much , owed her her time , love that she couldnt give before.. owed her presence ... she cannot choose easier exit and leave everyone like that
The problem with Gu Lan is , she is a concubine's daughter but raised like a legitimate daughter hr whole life . nevether understanding her real status in outside world . thats the reason she thinks she has a chance at Ye Xian and hates Mu young master's marriage proposal. Concubine Song thought she is doing her daughter a favor by sending off FL to her grand mothers house when just 1 month old , to ensure her children gets to be raised like legitimate children . but that only harmed their thinking and misunderstand their place and make bad decisions
Does friendship mean I have to understand everything about the other person? When people often fail to fully understand…
Also, engage with the actual point i made (that using knowledge gained through friendship to undercut someone, or treating a friend primarily as a rival, is not true friendship). Instead of attacking me as a person: claiming I don’t understand friendship and probably don’t even have friends , which is a classic way to dismiss or shut down someone’s view without having to defend the behavior being criticized. it’s an attempt to discredit the speaker so the original point doesn’t have to be addressed.
your above statement is : Personal attack / character attack, Defensive deflection , Invalidating response, Dismissive insult
Does friendship mean I have to understand everything about the other person? When people often fail to fully understand…
Actually, the opposite. True friendship is when someone can be in your circle, learn from you, and still want you to succeed — not use what you taught them to undercut you the moment competition appears. Wanting friends who are secure enough not to turn shared knowledge into a weapon against you isn’t ‘not knowing friendship.’ It’s knowing the difference between a friend and a rival wearing a friend’s face. I value the quiet support that doesn’t need to prove superiority. That doesn’t mean I have no friends. It means I refuse to call backstabbing ‘friendship’ just because someone once sat in my circle.
I barely register the sml as a romantic option for the fl. Even their friendship feels more like a group project…
ML doesnt have any relationship with FL. She has one sided relationship with ML ..she thinks he is a friend. but he thinks of her as a worthy competitor whom he is keeping close by , learning from , improving himself ..and when a chance presents itself, trying to outdo her.. he is a user and backstabber ..not a friend ... everything he did , he did to ensure she participates in the competition and he had a chance to compare his standard to his
Does friendship mean I have to understand everything about the other person? When people often fail to fully understand…
really, i let a friend in my circle , teach everything they dont understand, because i consider them a friend. but they look at me as a rival/ competitor more than a friend. join rival teams (one of them a petty idiot who uses underhanded techniques to steal a team member , and u dont say a thing because u want to win over her) ...and in the end use your understanding of her mind , against her to win..if she hadnt let ML into her circle and teach him he wouldnt know what method she would have used in that competition and win against her... she was missing friends in her life. now making her realise traitors come in the guise of friends too... and make her loose faith in her one ability that she is good at,... ML and his maths competition team ...all backstabbers.... and no i dont care who is most suitable competitor is... because she isnt looking for a competitor ...but a friend / best friend.. he made her loose faith in people... SML is better ..quitely entered her circle... quitely supporting her..no shoo sha about being her friend or best friend ..i respect that kind of friend..not a insecure backstabber... i want my friends to be secure of themselves , not be insecure of me and make me wonder /worry in which issue they would back stab me next because they wanted to find for themselves where they stand vis a vis.. SML>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ML
what about FL that ML likes , that she is someone who he needs to compete against and win (which he is unable to do presently) or some one he likes (love is too early to think as reason because they met 1st as 10 year olds) and wants to protect . His wanting to join another group and not group with her so that he can compete against her (to the point helping her gain last team member) somehow suggesting his interest is still having her as a competitor against whom he wants to compete to improve himself and win ... had it been a friendly relationship , he would have preferred to team with her seeing her struggle to form a group. i think the other guy is treating her with friendly respect , wanting to compete along side her and not against her..
what are your thoughts? what kind of friend sees his friend struggle but wont join her group....is helping a friend more important or competing against her ...? this explains ML's priorities .. by the way why didnt he give her the juice bottle , is it really because he was distracted by fellow classmates engaging him in a conversation.. and in the few times such things happened.. he could have still made a call of drawing a line and sticking to the girl..i understand they just met and are still awkward after meeting after a long time..
Also FL recognises the book he brought to share with his friends , while he didnt recognise the book she brought..SML may have reaslied its her book that he is reading as it was a tough reading.
what am saying is FL is all IN in her friedship with ML..ML is interested in competing part with her than friendship, thought he think friendship is the case , he hadnt fully understood her , her preferences or her style seeing that he didnt recognise her book... where SML seems more in clue about her than ML
we ususally associate kids to be sweet and innocent- but they can also be extremely rude and mean. to label FL as wierdo and not play or associate with her is really sad and pity. poor girl had no friends because she is smart but with poor social skills... is yhis autistic or ahad ..what is her medical problem if there is one? can someone explain?
i loved "the double" , the chemistry between leads was intense in that series ..and age gap didnt seem relevant at all..am yet to start this series... and am super fan of both the leads...and looing forward to watch it....
emperor is not dumb or his mothers puppet.. he understands her ambitions and doesnt seem to support them irrespective of whether it favors him. he seem a realist and reasonable ruler, trying to do his best given his personal conditions and available options.. he realises he needs ML to protect the realm and SML to rule the country post his demise. ..so inspite his mother's machinations he is trying to protect both.. very refreshing to see an emperor who really cares.. sad , he wasnt healthy enough to rule himself
so FL and SML are not half brother sisters.. wonder what happened there.. how come FLs parents married. it is confirmed she is not daughter of grand tutor.. so were they also married due to some imperial edict against their wishes.. and was empress An the lady grand tutor loved ...and who was father of FL
she owed FL so much , owed her her time , love that she couldnt give before.. owed her presence ... she cannot choose easier exit and leave everyone like that
Concubine Song thought she is doing her daughter a favor by sending off FL to her grand mothers house when just 1 month old , to ensure her children gets to be raised like legitimate children . but that only harmed their thinking and misunderstand their place and make bad decisions
your above statement is : Personal attack / character attack, Defensive deflection , Invalidating response, Dismissive insult
True friendship is when someone can be in your circle, learn from you, and still want you to succeed — not use what you taught them to undercut you the moment competition appears. Wanting friends who are secure enough not to turn shared knowledge into a weapon against you isn’t ‘not knowing friendship.’ It’s knowing the difference between a friend and a rival wearing a friend’s face. I value the quiet support that doesn’t need to prove superiority. That doesn’t mean I have no friends. It means I refuse to call backstabbing ‘friendship’ just because someone once sat in my circle.
what are your thoughts? what kind of friend sees his friend struggle but wont join her group....is helping a friend more important or competing against her ...? this explains ML's priorities .. by the way why didnt he give her the juice bottle , is it really because he was distracted by fellow classmates engaging him in a conversation.. and in the few times such things happened.. he could have still made a call of drawing a line and sticking to the girl..i understand they just met and are still awkward after meeting after a long time..
Also FL recognises the book he brought to share with his friends , while he didnt recognise the book she brought..SML may have reaslied its her book that he is reading as it was a tough reading.
what am saying is FL is all IN in her friedship with ML..ML is interested in competing part with her than friendship, thought he think friendship is the case , he hadnt fully understood her , her preferences or her style seeing that he didnt recognise her book... where SML seems more in clue about her than ML
let me know what do you think.