Same here. It's like you already know the end. So why would you go through the hard way. You can easily change…
Yes that sentiment is true, but if you really look from Ji Ling and LWY perspective, what they when through the journey.
It was never something they wanted. Both where put in the position that they never choose to be. Ji Ling being shackle by being Long Shen, And JWY being created for one purpose get close to Ji Ling and be YJ tools
The journey might gave us a powerful love story fill with sacrifice, love, high and low moment.
But as Ji Can ask LWY, " Will you go back in time, to save your loved one?"
LWY obviously gave us her answer, but so did Ji Ling.
They would do WHATEVER IT TAKE, to make sure the other one is alive. I don't think they would not trade their memories for it
" I cannot even point out plot holes because there are plot holes inside plot holes."If you can't point…
I appreciated you telling me this, but somehow you also fail to tell me anything.
I understand you feel it is complex and whatnot... also, I don't really care if you watch Dramas for 15 years, as it is some indicator for anything?
I simply ask you a question if you find the plot holes complex and difficult can you point them out ? So we can talk about it?
If you don't want to, that's fine. But so far, I have learned nothing about why the drama makes you feel this way. Because you literally have not mentioned anything that happened in the drama. beside " complex plots with everything from time travel to alternate universes " which again doesnt tell me a whole lot
Like, I'm super curious about "So much happened and some subplots conflicted with previous subplots." Which one?
why don't they remember ji ling? bc if there's no ji ling as long shen, then there'd be no li jie, no wu shiguang…
I dont get what you are trying to say ? yes she was created but she didnt go through anything from episode 1-25 though. If she was remove from the timeline the moment she was created
If she was created and remove right away.... this basically to everyone viewpoint she never existed beside Ji Ling
why don't they remember ji ling? bc if there's no ji ling as long shen, then there'd be no li jie, no wu shiguang…
The conclusion that I came up with to resolve this is
Ji Ling never made it out of that cave with A'Wu, A world where LWY never existed, to go through all the events up to episode 25, where she goes back in time to tell Ji Ling not to cry, don't be sad, I'll always be with you.
His loneliness won, and he took his own life.
Ji Ling did existed but he did not live past that point, this would explain Li Jie and WSG as both where created when Ji Ling was actually still happy.
We can tell from the flashback when he was sitting on Chi Wen, when he told him what he needed to do, and from the flashback with Ji Ling and old YWH. He was still talking in Ji Ling's voice, not Long Shen's yet.
What reaffirms this to me is that Li Jie in the new timeline never meets Ji Ling. In the last moment, we see that Li Jie remembers the voice calling him to find them. But he doesn't recognize the voice or the person's name.
Li Jie said in episode 27 that he had understood who he was. Yet by the end, we saw him questioning his identity…
I agree with you, but here another way to look at it
At the end of 27, he seems happier because he has come to terms with his obsession with protecting Ji Ling, even though he cannot be there for Ji Ling anymore, since it would take thousands of years for him to be reborn. That's why his line to WSG to tell Ji Ling he has finally figured out who he is
But at 29, that obsession lingered; in the new timeline, he actually didn't recognize the voice calling for him. This indicated that he never met Ji Ling in this timeline. This shows that, although it is an obsession, it seems to transcend time.
You can say it's his obsession, but I think it's more the love between the two that transcends time, and not the obsession. As we see time and time again, love and obsession are two sides of the coin in the show.
So for those who wonder who the first lonescale demon is....
I thought more about this, and it is no coincidence that Ji Can himself has a moon theme, and that Bai Ze and Ji Ling look at the moon when discussing the first Lonescale.
Jiu Ying is the main villain, and in the final fight, WSG and WWY launched an attack that involved shooting an arrow.
This is no doubt a nod to Hou Yi, the mythical archer who shot and killed Jiu Ying.
Hou Yi is most well-known for his story with Chang'e, the moon goddess.
There are a couple of notable versions of this story. It typically goes like this
She drinks the elixir of immortality and ascends alone to the moon, where she becomes separated forever from her husband, Hou Yi. He remains on earth, while she lives in the cold, silent Moon Palace.
Kinda mirrors how Ji Ling became lonely after becoming Long Shen and gaining immortality, and watching people around him die.
Chang'e also became immortal and was separated from her husband Hou Yi, who eventually also died.
When did Wu yi read the first page of the manuscript? Since the first loop she's shown to have been trying to…
It might have never been shown like Wu yi actually reading it, you can assume somewhere in the loop maybe even after the first time. That Hanba somehow discover the truth which led to the drought. So she knew what would had happen
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It was never something they wanted. Both where put in the position that they never choose to be. Ji Ling being shackle by being Long Shen,
And JWY being created for one purpose get close to Ji Ling and be YJ tools
The journey might gave us a powerful love story fill with sacrifice, love, high and low moment.
But as Ji Can ask LWY, " Will you go back in time, to save your loved one?"
LWY obviously gave us her answer, but so did Ji Ling.
They would do WHATEVER IT TAKE, to make sure the other one is alive. I don't think they would not trade their memories for it
But at the same time these were also your words
"but that I would not recommend or think of re-watching."
But maybe I'm wrong and you will and I will finally know about the above point I mention
I understand you feel it is complex and whatnot... also, I don't really care if you watch Dramas for 15 years, as it is some indicator for anything?
I simply ask you a question if you find the plot holes complex and difficult can you point them out ? So we can talk about it?
If you don't want to, that's fine. But so far, I have learned nothing about why the drama makes you feel this way. Because you literally have not mentioned anything that happened in the drama. beside " complex plots with everything from time travel to alternate universes " which again doesnt tell me a whole lot
Like, I'm super curious about "So much happened and some subplots conflicted with previous subplots." Which one?
If she was created and remove right away.... this basically to everyone viewpoint she never existed beside Ji Ling
Ji Ling never made it out of that cave with A'Wu, A world where LWY never existed, to go through all the events up to episode 25, where she goes back in time to tell Ji Ling not to cry, don't be sad, I'll always be with you.
His loneliness won, and he took his own life.
Ji Ling did existed but he did not live past that point, this would explain Li Jie and WSG as both where created when Ji Ling was actually still happy.
We can tell from the flashback when he was sitting on Chi Wen, when he told him what he needed to do, and from the flashback with Ji Ling and old YWH. He was still talking in Ji Ling's voice, not Long Shen's yet.
What reaffirms this to me is that Li Jie in the new timeline never meets Ji Ling. In the last moment, we see that Li Jie remembers the voice calling him to find them. But he doesn't recognize the voice or the person's name.
At the end of 27, he seems happier because he has come to terms with his obsession with protecting Ji Ling, even though he cannot be there for Ji Ling anymore, since it would take thousands of years for him to be reborn. That's why his line to WSG to tell Ji Ling he has finally figured out who he is
But at 29, that obsession lingered; in the new timeline, he actually didn't recognize the voice calling for him. This indicated that he never met Ji Ling in this timeline. This shows that, although it is an obsession, it seems to transcend time.
You can say it's his obsession, but I think it's more the love between the two that transcends time, and not the obsession. As we see time and time again, love and obsession are two sides of the coin in the show.
It’s interesting because for YWH (Evil Butterfly version), even though the goal of removing loneliness from Ji Ling is a good thing,
it still can be twisted into something bad/evil.
If you can't point them out... how are you so sure they are plot holes?
The real couple of VoS 🤣🤣🤣
I thought more about this, and it is no coincidence that Ji Can himself has a moon theme, and that Bai Ze and Ji Ling look at the moon when discussing the first Lonescale.
Jiu Ying is the main villain, and in the final fight, WSG and WWY launched an attack that involved shooting an arrow.
This is no doubt a nod to Hou Yi, the mythical archer who shot and killed Jiu Ying.
Hou Yi is most well-known for his story with Chang'e, the moon goddess.
There are a couple of notable versions of this story. It typically goes like this
She drinks the elixir of immortality and ascends alone to the moon, where she becomes separated forever from her husband, Hou Yi. He remains on earth, while she lives in the cold, silent Moon Palace.
Kinda mirrors how Ji Ling became lonely after becoming Long Shen and gaining immortality, and watching people around him die.
Chang'e also became immortal and was separated from her husband Hou Yi, who eventually also died.
As any event with LWY from episode 1-29 would never happen
But he still managed to do it after having all 8 severed and destroyed and one left sealed within Chi Wen
We don't know what any of the other heads gave him the ability to do.